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   #42. Posted at 03:13 PM on Dec 30th 2005 Edit   Reply
Soldier
It mystifies me how Intel is sliding down this slippery slop of doom and fails to even realize they are on a slope at all. Who would buy this chip besides seriously diluded fanboys that think Intel offers some advantage over AMD....I can't wait to hear the rediculous claims about this chips performance and why it's a great deal compared to A64. Intel sounds more and more like Apple every day....
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   #41. Posted at 10:17 PM on Dec 28th 2005 Edit   Reply
Mr Bill
Maybe you should get a PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool 1KW to be sure of system stability. LOL
Here's a review...
http://www.xyzcomputing.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=501
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   #40. Posted at 10:42 AM on Dec 28th 2005 Edit   Reply
StuV
Are reviewers starting to feel sorry for intel? Here it's a special cooler, an*nd resorted to overclocking the dog to get it on top of some graphs...
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   #39. Posted at 08:48 AM on Dec 28th 2005, Edited at 08:49 AM on Dec 28th 2005 Edit   Reply
PerfectCr
"Sizzler", heh, all I can think of is my steak coming from the kitchen still cooking on the plate. Great for a steakhouse, bad for a processor.
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   #28. Posted at 05:59 AM on Dec 28th 2005 Edit   Reply
Vrock
I smell bacon! At 90c, it's nice and crispy too! Here piggy piggy piggy!
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#28, "Smells like they're cookin' a goddam*ed CAT in there!" -- M...  :  PerfectCr  (#38)  «

   #37. Posted at 08:13 AM on Dec 28th 2005 Edit   Reply
ChangWang
90C? Jesus that thing could double for a waffle iron LOL
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   #6. Posted at 12:34 PM on Dec 27th 2005, Edited at 12:36 PM on Dec 27th 2005 Edit   Reply
Chrispy_
The Extreme Edition clearly marketed at gamers with more money than sense.

What a shame that the $999 chipzilla is asking for gets you:
- a faster AMD chip
- a motherboard
- some RAM
- maybe even a good bit of cash left over to help fund your graphics card
- default temps of sub 40C with a paltry aluminium cooler
- on-die memory controller, providing lower RAM latency - critical for gaming
- a variety of well-tested, stable SLI motherboards on bug-tested chipsets
- the satisfaction of depriving intel their sale
- the satisfaction of making a more intelligent choice than the guy with a DELL machine next to you.

I hate to take sides, but intel lost the plot in this market segment back with the launch of the Willamette.
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#6, Exactly, and I'm apparently to first to say "Intel... heat pr...  :  Logan[TeamX]  (#7)  «
#6, If only the main performance AMD chipset actually was bug-fr...  :  Ragnar Dan  (#11)  «
#11, it's a simple work around ; don't install active armor, an...  :  leor  (#12)  «
#11, True, Nforce 4's aren't perfect, but then again - neither...  :  Chrispy_  (#19)  «
#6, While willy sucked, northwoods rocked the athlon xp line. AM...  :  Beomagi  (#13)  «
#13, There's a little thing called physics and I don't know yo...  :  Krogoth  (#15)  «
#15, Yup. I run a Venice at 2.6G on the stock cooler - a che...  :  Chrispy_  (#18)  «
#18, Mobile chips dont have that problem. Its all about ...  :  Shintai  (#31)  «
#13, Serious overclockers can push Prescott P4's to over 7Ghz,...  :  d0g_p00p  (#22)  «
#22, 7Ghz for a CPU that requires LN2 cooling and enough vo...  :  Krogoth  (#23)  «
#23, You missed the £999 part ^_^  :  Chrispy_  (#26)  «
#22, digg has this nordichardware.com story: http://www.nord...  :  Perezoso  (#27)  «

   #24. Posted at 11:06 PM on Dec 27th 2005 Edit   Reply
Voldenuit
Hey Scott,

Looking forward to your review.

But I have to ask - how representative is sticking on a Zalman to the average user's out-of-box experience? (Although someone who buys an EE isn't exactly "average").

If there is a problem with intel's cooling solution (be it in BIOS, hardware, etc), then I think consumers need to be aware and forewarned about it until a fix is implemented (and widespread).

I'd like to see numbers from both the CNPS9500 and stock cooler run, just to see how fubar'ed it is with the stock cooling setup. Am I the only one?
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#24, My thoughts exactly. You need to test the CPU with original I...  :  Klopsik206  (#35)  «

   #16. Posted at 05:06 PM on Dec 27th 2005, Edited at 01:02 PM on Dec 28th 2005 Edit   Reply
Krogoth
(YAWNS)

I'm sorry, but there's a reason why Intel has abandon the inefficent Netburst architech. Cedar Mill and Presters are nothing more then prototypes for the 65nm process.

Damage, do all of us readers a favor. Wake your readers up when Conroe finally lands on your bench table.

(I blame the Egg Nog) ;)
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#16, lol "Wake all of us up readers" -> all your base...  :  lyc  (#33)  «

   #25. Posted at 11:26 PM on Dec 27th 2005 Edit   Reply
Kurlon
This may be too simple, but have you tried using a different fan header, or better, one of the 4 pin Molex to 3pin fan header adapters to force it to run at full speed, just to see if it's the cooler vs poor thermal management setup in the BIOS?
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   #3. Posted at 12:14 PM on Dec 27th 2005 Edit   Reply
Sargent Duck
Since it's a new core, I guess all the Presshott jokes will stop (shame, I'll miss those), but the heat's still there. The MB reported a 90C temp (forget cooking eggs, coffee anyone?), but it'd be interesting to see what the processor really does ran at, using an outside temperature reading using one of those laser temperature reading thinginies.
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#3, There is always Sizzler  :  Convert  (#8)  «
#8, Good one lol  :  PerfectCr  (#21)  «
#3, VIIV, because we'll all need to count in tens on our fingers...  :  Logan[TeamX]  (#9)  «
#3, Threshler? Though I like Sizzler too :-D, -Mole  :  IntelMole  (#17)  «

   #20. Posted at 06:26 PM on Dec 27th 2005 Edit   Reply
Todd Abbott
It is likely the thermal paste. A few other sites are having this issue. You need to use the retail cooler with an undamaged stock thermal pad for the best results.
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   #14. Posted at 04:05 PM on Dec 27th 2005, Edited at 04:17 PM on Dec 27th 2005 Edit   Reply
Shintai
3000rpm seems rather slow to me. Looks like something aint working 100%. But again, I doubt this is a retail board and cooler either.

Unless its a huge fan they usually go some 4500-6000rpm on the highend stuff. 3000rpm sound like silent mode.

Specially since theinquirer.net runs at 4080rpm...and using Intel stock cooler.

http://www.theinquirer.net/images/articles/presler426monitor.jpg

Also note the CPU is running 4.26Ghz at this point.
http://www.theinquirer.net/images/articles/presler426bios.jpg

So where did the extra 1000rpm go?

whole article here:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28412
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   #10. Posted at 01:41 PM on Dec 27th 2005 Edit   Reply
indeego
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28562
intel rebranded.
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   #5. Posted at 12:21 PM on Dec 27th 2005 Edit   Reply
Ricardo Dawkins
intel blows...man...wait a minute...intel desktops chips blow chunks right now !
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   #1. Posted at 11:45 AM on Dec 27th 2005 Edit   Reply
mac_h8r1
LOL that's pretty sad! One day Intel will just strap the CNPS 9500 to their chips in the retail box.
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#1, Another price increase?  :  CampinCarl  (#2)  «
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