So, Nvidia says they will have this fixed by their next-gen chipset? Where does that leave the people who spent their hard earned $ on an Nforce 4 chipset motherboard? They paid for a product that doesn't do what it is purported to.

I think Nvidia ought to be replacing all Nforce 4 motherboards with their next-gen chipset boards. Why should the consumer have to pay to beta test Nvidia's faulty products? This is a crime in my eyes.

If the products was a car rather than a chipset and Active Armor were the brakes....and the company was Ford instead of Nvidia....and if instead of data corruption you had break failure. What do you think would be happening? Class action suit. Why should it be any different for Nvidia? Is our data not important (vital in many cases) to us, the user....the customer?

Companies have gotten away with this sort of thing for too long IMO.

Now if they could just fix the IDE problems

Just say no to "kitchen-sink" mobos. Buy a real NIC, they're cheap and reliable.

According to nVidia's download page, 6.70 for AMD came out in October. If it really fixed ActiveArmor's corruption problems, how come we're just hearing about it now?

If you cared to get a decent motherboard, and it has PCI-X slots, get yourself a decent NIC. simple, no?

Its kindof a shame they could never get it to work right. I got some 3com NICs with offload cpus back in 99 or so and it was nice if you used a couple in the same machine. (I recall it was just in time for W2k or something) They were always a good choice for gaming rigs too until the chipsets started going The Blob on extra halfassed features.

I also never trusted their IDE drivers either. Though that corruption was supposedly fixed back with nf2 or nf3, theres still a big fat disclaimer warning and you have to opt in (in the middle of a driver no less) to install it. My CrappyDriverRadar™ says Screw 'dat!

""NVIDIA says ActiveArmor’s troubles will be fully resolved in its next-gen products.""

Well, they would, wouldn't they?

I use an nf3 mboard at home (MSI K8Neo Plat.2), and prefer the nVidia controller to the Marvell Gb controller simply because it runs on its own IRQ and I could never get the Marvell to do anything but share an IRQ --just the way the board is wired, I suppose (swapping around expansion card slots didn't help.) I do, however, run the nV chipset drivers without Active Armor at all--I tried it a couple of times but the Firewall was so absymal I've never used it again. Without Active Armor software installed I've yet to have a data corruption problem crop up across my home network.

I remember wondering why nV wasn't actively promoting AA at the time I bought the mboard--indeed, MSI's drivers for the board at the time didn't even offer the option to install AA and there was nothing even written about it in the mboard documentation or on the MSI site. After trying AA a couple of times all my questions about MSI's behavoir in this regard were resolved...;) I guess I never much thought about it afterwards because it's always been nV's tendency to hype a technology first and then address whether or not that technology actually works as advertised, second...;)

All I know is every time I use a nVidia ethernet port, it drops about 10% of my packets. Kind of rediculous, so I never use the nVidia ethernet port on my computer and am glad Asus always sticks someone elses ethernet chip on their nForce chipset boards.

I'll continue using the second (Marvell-based) GigE port. But it is not without it's share of problems. After 14 days+ of uptime it starts dropping data, which forces me to reboot.

So exactly what are these next generation products Nvidia is promising?

FNT: Active Armor, was it made by evil space elves? Is that why the corruption is so prevalent? Can you have a saving throw on 1D6?

Since the NIC implimentation in the NF4 boards suck, I still contunue to use a 3com parallel tasking 3 ethernet 10/100 card

Too bad ActiveArmor is notorious for BSOD'ing the PC even mroe than mangling packets. I'll continue to give it and Nvidia's SW IDE driver a miss, since I like having a nice stable PC.

Yeah, it's a shame the ActiveArmor tech isn't working as intended. When using BitTorrent particularly, a lot of my AMD friends seem to get massive amounts of hash fails and crap...hopefully the next-gen won't corrupt data like that anymore.