I am telling you, MS has finally drop the hammer with Vista. It is going to be the next ME in terms of marketing success at this rate. It seems that there is some internal or managment focus problems within MS.

PS: #1 Security problem is a PBCAK issue. ;)

More time before heavy DRM infestation? yaaay ;)

Ya gotta wonder if the delay is somehow related to blueray vs. hd-dvd and other various drm stuff that's not quite worked out yet. I suspect that vista is really going to bring home all the hassles of drm, especially as it starts to impact actual hardware, and that people are going to freak, particularly the enthusiast market, when the implications of this kick in.

Looks like no Halo 2 for PC for an other year!

2 months, big deal...

Seriously, everyone whines about games getting pumped out in beta needing 5 patches just to work, having BF2 using 2GB memory to run ok. Its just a healthy sign that they put abit more effort in it.

Also january is for boxes in the stores release. Original RTM was set to august 9, thats now moved 2 months aswell. So in october OEMs and corpoate people can still install Vista.

If Apple manages to ship something really good with OS X 10.5 and a better (expansion-wise) quad (Intel-based) machine than the current G5 offering, I might finally go that way.

XP is getting very long in the tooth with that nasty multitasking and the 4 Gb ceiling. I use my computer at home mostly for music, video and photography.

NOOOOOOOOOO!!

I just find it entertaining that so many companies buy machines with XP preinstalled, then wipe it and install 2K as per company policy. At Comcast there were two flavors of desktops on the floor: P3 933s and P4 1.8s. Both setups were running 2K, though the P4 Dells all had XP licence/serial stickers stuck to them.

With that in mind, I bet Vista gets rolled out about when 'Vienna' is ready, just like Comcast is only now looking into rolling out XP.... As Vista nears completion.

I'm sure MS doesn't mind selling two copies of Windows for every machine, though. Once with the XP preinstall, again with the 2K corporate license.

Does this coincide with Office 12's launch?

All we need is CodeRed version 2 that hits Vista at release day plus five or ten, and nukes the crap out of Vista installs, and this will roll back up into it's box at Redmond faster than WinME ever did.

Somehow, this reminds me of IBM's Micro Channel Architecture back in the late 80's and early 90's. They hyped it up as the next big thing and by the time it arrived, the market had decided MCA was largely irrelevant. No one was willing to pay extra for something that had little or no extra value.

As much trouble as MS had getting people to move from Win 95/ME and Win2K to XP, it's going to be doubly hard to get them to move to Vista. While new PC sales will be the leading part of market penetration, it's just not as strong as it used to be.

I probably won't upgrade for a while. Other than some eyecandy, there's not much here that interests me.

I just have to laugh when people ask what hardware they should buy today, to be ready for Vista when it ships. If you're that concerned about being able to run Vista to its full potential, wait for it to ship... then we'll know what its hardware requirements truly are, and the cost of the hardware required to run it decently will have come down.

With MS OSes, I generally wait at least a year after it has been released before I install it anyway. That way, most of the really big bugs have already been fixed, and 3rd party drivers are in reasonable shape.

Gates needs to fire Balmer. This company has turned into a fat, bald, middle aged bafoon since Balmer took over.

Or maybe all companies reach a critical mass at which point they collapse in on themselves.

Either way, MS is a shell of its former self. Remember when people actually were afraid of competing with Microsoft? I think it's even further in the past than the days when the Bush administration was regarded as competent and politically astute.

"We're trying to crank up the security level higher than ever,"

that's right. all the way to 11.

And to think, I really did expect them to hit their latest relase date revision.

question is, do you really care about an OS, or whats running on the OS?

THAT FRIGGIN ROOOOOCKS!!!

BIG FAT LOL and LMAO!

Oh man I'm glad I'm not holding my breath for it. heh.

You have got to be kidding me. Will it never end?