So where’s the Phenom review, man?

I expect many of you came to TR this morning hoping to see a review of AMD’s Phenom processor, since AMD has just launched the product. I can tell you that I’ve been working behind the scenes for weeks in order to make just such a review happen, but unfortunately, it’s not ready yet. Despite my best efforts, we only came into possession of a Phenom engineering sample to review this past Friday, and it came with an AMD 790FX-based Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe motherboard.

Unfortunately, that motherboard is essentially broken. Some of the problems we experienced may be specific to our particular board and/or CPU, but it’s tough to say with certainty. We ran into problems too numerous—and sometimes weirdly intermittent—to mention, leaving us with the impression that Asus didn’t exactly give its best effort when designing its 790FX motherboard.

In spite these problems, I did manage to get the Phenom largely tested at two speed grades, but I’m left with no time and energy this evening to even contemplate writing a review. The past 72 hours have involved way too much time in front of a desk and mental energy troubleshooting. (And as I type, I hear the fan spin down on the Phenom system on the test bench next to me as the system locks while re-running a test whose results I wanted to re-confirm. Argh.)

Nonetheless, our Phenom review is definitely in the works, and you’ll see it on the site’s front page as soon as it’s ready. In the meantime, I would advise you to steer clear of Asus’s M3A32-MVP Deluxe. I don’t think it’s ready for prime time.

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    • Chaos-Storm
    • 12 years ago

    I have a request which is probably not going to get done, but it would be really cool for me. Can you run a Supreme Commander benchmark, but instead of the usual one, watch a replay of a demanding game at +10 speed, and time it. This will indicate how well the processors perform more accurately by measuring sim speed. Supreme Commander is multithreaded, and I would like to see how it performs on the Phenom Chip compared to intel’s stuff.

    • wiak
    • 12 years ago

    i hope you guys get a review up
    and please do a x264 benchmark ๐Ÿ™‚
    x264 is the most demanding encoding you can get
    as it encodes h.264 that is more hard to decode ๐Ÿ˜›

    and meybe this will help TR do benchmarks faster
    ยง[<<]ยง makes you life easier to bench, let it run and go to sleep =)

      • lyc
      • 12 years ago

      that would be awesome ๐Ÿ™‚

    • axeman
    • 12 years ago

    The mobo issues don’t surprise me in the least, I tried two different Asus models for a budget AM2 built and gave up on both of them. The Asrock I got instead works better, and is cheaper. I know Asrock started out as an Asus subsidiary, but I don’t think that’s the case anymore. In any case, kind of ironic.

    • Usacomp2k3
    • 12 years ago

    Quality over quantity, or rather quality over timeliness….er..I’d rather wait for a quality review than reading a rushed job, so thanks for taking your time and remaining dedicated to truth and thoroughness like we know ya’ll have always been.

    TR ftw!

    • Krogoth
    • 12 years ago

    What a shame on Damage’s end. It is not called the “Bleeding Edge” for nothing. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Anyway, from what I gather elsewhere. Phenom x4s are just about as fast as a Conroe-based C2D. There is no way it can compete against Penyrn-based C2Ds performance-wise.

    Penyrns outperform Phenom 4x per clock and can easily outclocked 65nm Phenom 4x by a large degree if Intel felt that they needed to do it.

    The only way that Phenoms would stand a chance is that they sold for less, but AMD would barely make anything per unit due to R&D cost overhead.

    It is safe to say that Nehalem will not see the public eye until Q1 09.

    • eitje
    • 12 years ago

    I’d actually be interested in a write-up of the issues you came across & how you dealt with them, if you don’t see them with a different mobo/proc combo (and if it doesn’t make it directly into the Phenom article itself).

    It would be educational to see the failure side of running Tech Report (like how Voice of the Mountains talked about not being able to find the appropriate site in its latest blog entry).

    • etilena
    • 12 years ago

    Strangely, don’t really feel hyped up about Phenom as I was with the original Athlon 64 release.

    • flip-mode
    • 12 years ago

    No probs. I’ll gladly read it whenever you publish it.

    • Jigar
    • 12 years ago

    Yeah, take your time Damage… We wont get phenom (In market) that easily within 2 weeks (or may be more).. So no need to rush..

    • gratuitous
    • 12 years ago
      • eitje
      • 12 years ago


      • Flying Fox
      • 12 years ago

      So what was said? Do we even know if Damage has read it? It’s probably another jab or something negative.

        • UberGerbil
        • 12 years ago

        I’d love to have a psychologist give a professional opinion about this. There’s obviously a compulsion at work here — one that either forces gratuitous to post against his better judgment, only to pull it back when he calms down, or one that makes him manically eliminate his posts even when he still agrees with them. In other words, is he nuts when he posts, or nuts when he deletes?

        Pulling out my virtual tweed jacket and pipe, I’d guess that this is kind of the online/verbal equivalent to compulsively exposing yourself. Gratuitous: post flasher.

          • Sikthskies
          • 12 years ago

          Hahaha that’s good. But seriously lets get rid of him

          • Flying Fox
          • 12 years ago


    • Deli
    • 12 years ago

    dang! We all know you always give your best. Our support won’t waver due to somebody else’ (ahem….asus…cough…sniff…cough) fault.

    I’ll be refreshing these pages!

    • ssidbroadcast
    • 12 years ago

    It’s cool, man. Take your time. We can wait.

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