Vista SP1 nuked my network file copies

Recently, I built a storage server for my LAN and migrated all of my important documents over to it.  Even more recently, I built myself a new PC and installed Windows Vista x64 on it, with some trepidation about the network file copy performance issues some Vista users have encountered.  Happily, though, my system didn’t exhibit any such problems, with crisp and speedy performance accessing files via a drive letter mapped to a network share.

Then I upgraded to Vista SP1, which is supposed to banish the problems some folks have been having on this front.  My reward was a surprising one: now my system has precisely the sort of problems it didn’t have before!  I’ve tried a number of things—installing newer NIC and audio drivers, enabling jumbo frames, disabling UAC, a few other tweaks—but I still get episodes like this:

Lovely.  Eventually, the file copy failed outright, as did a few other accesses I had running to that same mapped drive.

The target machine is Windows XP-based, uses the latest hardware, and plays well with all of the others on my network.  The only thing that’s changed is my machine’s upgrade to SP1.

I’ve spent some time googling around and looking at MS’s knowledgebase, but there’s no obvious fix.  Ugh.

 

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    • Damage
    • 11 years ago
    • albundy
    • 12 years ago

    Sure you could blame Vista for sucking this much, but there are other way more important reasons that make it worse…not that I am bashing Vista.

    • ryko
    • 12 years ago

    i think you need a windows hotfix for your xp machine….i forget what it is called, but i remember seeing an optional software update under windows update that dealt with having a mixed network of xp and vista. just updated a machine and i didn’t install it since i have all xp boxes.

    • MadManOriginal
    • 12 years ago

    Any update on this?

    • indeego
    • 12 years ago

    netsh int tcp show global

    netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled

    You also might look for firmware/software updates for your gateway device. There are a few new RFC’s that Vista uses that these gateway devices might not be aware of. Older watchguards/linux boxes, for exampleg{<.<}g

    • doobtribe
    • 12 years ago

    [Simpsons-Nelson] HAAaa HAAaaaaa! [/Simpsons-Nelson]

    • MadManOriginal
    • 12 years ago

    What an ironic twist of technology, SP1 makes network transfers worse. And it seems so random when it does happen. Reports like this make me not want to go with Vista even though I have a good reason to. It’s the damn randomness with no explanation that meks these problems so worrisome. Please keep us updated Damage.

      • Krogoth
      • 12 years ago

      Not entirely true at all.

      Vista SP1 does solve and provide some tools to combat the network/I/O transfer problem that plagued RTM. I know that is from first hand experience.

      It is just that some of these fixes might have inadvertently cause problems in system configurations of some users.

        • MadManOriginal
        • 12 years ago

        I guess you meant my ‘SP1 makes transfers worse’ is what you said isn’t true. I didn’t elaborate enough. I was aware that one of the important changes in SP1 was tweaks to the networking, Anadtech had a nice detailed writeup about that soon after it was released. What I should have said is SP1 i[

        • zgirl
        • 12 years ago

        r[

      • Saber Cherry
      • 12 years ago

      Really? I mean, lots of it looks “Mac-like” *shudder* but if I wouldn’t mind snagging the recycle bin for XP.

      • Meadows
      • 12 years ago

      Click “Less information” if you don’t like it.

        • Convert
        • 12 years ago

        It defaults to the “less information” view as well.

        The detailed view is a plus IMO, one of the things I really like about vista.

      • paulpod
      • 12 years ago

      None of these KB fixes work on my system. There are problems WAY deeper than MS has explored.

      A registry hack was put in SP1 to assign network processing priority but chances are so infinitessimally small that this would fix my problems, I will simply wait for Windows 7 or for hardware acceleration of HD video to get into Linux.

      And yes, a side benefit is not having to move to the inexplicably ugly and inefficient UI schemes in Vista.

    • spuppy
    • 12 years ago

    Sounds like it might be a network driver issue. Try using a good PCI-E network card maybe?

    • paulpod
    • 12 years ago

    #12, Server 2008 has the exact same behavior for me as Vista. I’ve had this problem with Vista from day 1 and NO workarounds have helped. GbE networked file copies that originate from the Vista system are 1/5 the performance of copies originated from XP.

    My only workaround would be to RDP to the XP machines and originate copies to/from Vista shared folders. Or to code up some remoted xcopy command scripting. But this is way too cumbersome.

    Instead, I choose to forget about Vista and buy a full retail XP license to back up any failures that require major changes to the other OEM licensed systems. (My video tuner cards don’t work properly in Vista either.)

    • Forge
    • 12 years ago

    Gosh, odd file copying troubles?

    It’s not an nForce board on either end, is it?

    If there is one, make sure that the Forceware NAM is not installed.

    If none of this applies, welcome to Vista Hell.

    • ssidbroadcast
    • 12 years ago

    Cyril: Hey everyone, Windows Vista isn’t /[that/ bad! And now it has a SP1!
    Damage: … …

      • flip-mode
      • 12 years ago

      Cyril’s been pimpin Vista pretty hard.

        • Meadows
        • 12 years ago

        And he has a point, I have no problems with it either.

          • Vrock
          • 12 years ago

          That’s faint praise. I expect an “upgrade” to do more than simply not trash my computer. I’ll stick with XP.

          • flip-mode
          • 12 years ago

          I’ve not had any problems myself. I’m commenting on the irony of the situation, not on Vista itself. It’s perhaps a stretch for a Vista fanboy to understand the difference. OTOH, Vista flamers (Vrock) never miss a chance to sink some teeth in. Vista has good points and bad points and I’m not going to shrink from mentioning either.

    • Meadows
    • 12 years ago

    Yo *[http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2238&page=29<]§ You should share any results.

    • emi25
    • 12 years ago

    Maybe this is a new M$ protection, to convince you to buy the server 2008.

    Try the FreeNAS.

    • fpsduck
    • 12 years ago

    OMG!

    45,293 Days!
    That would be almost 124 years.

    • ludi
    • 12 years ago

    It’s good to see that with SP1, “Windows time” has finally been adjusted to more accurately reflect the actual wait time!

    • just brew it!
    • 12 years ago

    Heh… not only is the file copy performance borked, Vista can’t do basic math either. 211 MB at a rate of 53.2 KB/sec should take “only” a little more than an hour!

    • Krogoth
    • 12 years ago

    Were you by chance running a video/audio file at the same time?

      • Kraft75
      • 12 years ago

      Why would anyone in their right mind want to listen to audio while transferring important files?

        • Krogoth
        • 12 years ago

        I dunno, but is a well-known issue with Vista. Vista’s network stack by default gives greater priority to data and processes related to multimedia over normal network stuff. The result is sluggish transfers rate when you trying to transfer data and play multimedia content at the same time.

        SP1 fix is simple registry hack that allows you to massively lower that multimedia priority in the networking stack.

          • Hdfisise
          • 12 years ago

          r[

            • MadManOriginal
            • 12 years ago

            You’d better have a reeeeeally large music collection to pass that much time.

    • Saber Cherry
    • 12 years ago

    /[

    • Convert
    • 12 years ago

    How about a new NIC all together?

    Was it on board for curiosity, who makes it?

      • thecoldanddarkone
      • 12 years ago

      I personally would try that if he hasn’t yet, it sounds like a good idea.

        • Snake
        • 12 years ago

        Yep. Nothing like throwing out pefectly good (and probably up to date) hardware because your new _[

          • Krogoth
          • 12 years ago

          NIC could be defective or is too old to handle the new network stack that Vista uses.

            • Snake
            • 12 years ago

            Could be. However…

            r[

            • Krogoth
            • 12 years ago

            Perhaps whatever is the hotfix for the previous NIC problem on majority of other systems with Vista RTM (not this case) is causing the problem.

          • Convert
          • 12 years ago

          Hey I didn’t say it was *[

    • phez
    • 12 years ago

    … try readding the network drive? :\

    • Usacomp2k3
    • 12 years ago

    At that rate, you’ll be as old as Lickety when that file finishes 😆

      • Dposcorp
      • 12 years ago

      lol

      Houston, we have a problem.

      • Krogoth
      • 12 years ago

      Correction, Damage would have be oldest living person if were to live all the way through that timeframe. 😉

      45000 days = 123 years!

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