The great 8-bit monitor conundrum

I have a pair of 20" 1600×1200 LCDs on my desk, and I really like this arrangement.  Both are Dell displays, and the older one of the two (a 2001FP) has begun to fail.  Most of the time, it has a two-inch-wide strip of flickering, garbled junk running down the middle of the screen.  The easiest path for me would be to order up another 20" LCD to replace it, but here’s my worry: both current displays are true 8-bit panels with good color reproduction, a must for web work.  How do I replace this bum monitor with a new 8-bit display of the same size and resolution?  Has everything reasonably priced shifted to 6-bit panels?

A related question would be: can I find a wide-aspect monitor to plug in next to my other 20" display that has the same height and pixel pitch?  Looks like the closest match would be a 24" 1920×1200 monitor, but that would have a slightly larger pixel pitch (0.27 mm) than my 20" 1600×1200 display (0.255 mm).  Perhaps that would be a better place to hunt for an 8-bit panel, even if it’s not a perfect match?  Hmm.

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    • bdwilcox
    • 11 years ago

    I would heartily recommend an 8″ NCR amber (because it produces less eyestrain than green phosphors).

    • Kaleid
    • 11 years ago

    Consider Philips 200WP7ES 20.1″ Wide. S-IPS, 8-bit, 178/178.
    Very pleased

    • KarateBob
    • 11 years ago

    You could always get a 30″ WQXGA 2560×1600 monitor, and run your 20″ sideways next to it.

      • JustAnEngineer
      • 11 years ago

      I occasionally do this with an UltraSharp 3007WFP and an UltraSharp 2001FP. Damage has a 3007WFP on one of his other PCs.

        • thecoldanddarkone
        • 11 years ago

        We just got a 3007wfp-hc at work it’s awsome.

      • drcrabbysaurus
      • 11 years ago

      I do this at home with an old 2001 FP and a 3008 WFP, the 20″ has become a permanent web browser and the 30″ is for productivity/games. You won’t regret the purchase of a 30″ monitor.

    • blitzy
    • 11 years ago

    ive heard good things of NEC panels but theyre a bit pricey

    • DrDillyBar
    • 11 years ago

    Ouchie. I suggest a dual replace too.

    • zqw
    • 11 years ago

    I have a 2001FP and 2407WFP-HC. The slightly larger pixels and height of the 24 doesn’t matter at all, just center it. But colors… old IPS has pretty different colors and blacks than PVA/MVA even considering calibration and the “HC” backight. I’ve also never gotten used to the black crush that PVA/MVA has when viewed straight on.

    What about having one nice monitor, and a cheap/fast TN so you can also see your content like the unwashed masses do? …and then game. I wish I’d gone that route.

    • floodo1
    • 11 years ago

    yeah, i think your best bet is to get a replacement off ebay.
    otherwise you’re stuck dealing with, most likely, 2 different panels.

    • ozymandias
    • 11 years ago

    warranty/ebay?

      • eitje
      • 11 years ago

      warranty replacement would be same or better, which could land him a 6-bit TN panel. also, i think monitors only have 1 year warranty.

    • drfish
    • 11 years ago

    You could look at the Lenovo L220X that I suggested you review back in December (22″ PVA, 1920×1200, .25mm, etc)… 😉

      • Scrotos
      • 11 years ago

      I have seen reports that the original 2007FP’s had S-IPS but the later revisions started using PVAs. I don’t know if those relate directly to the 6-bit/8-bit thing, but a consideration for some, I guess.

        • drsauced
        • 11 years ago

        P/MVA are all 8-bit, so they relate that way, they’re all 8-bit. The naughty exception is TN panels, as we are all well aware by now. Just judging by the price, I’d say those 2007FP’s are still IPS panels.

        Get ’em while you still can, I say!

        • sleeprae
        • 11 years ago

        All ~53 of the 2007fp’s we have deployed at work are LG.Philips S-IPS based, including the last batch of 12 ordered as recently as 3 weeks ago.

        You can tell by the serial number…those based on the LG S-IPS panel have a serial ending in L, whereas those based on a Samsung S-PVA panel end in S. Doesn’t help when ordering, of course.

        Both, however, are 8-bit.

    • demani
    • 11 years ago

    Yes- two 24″ monitors is clearly the superior way to go. It makes you smarter and more attractive.
    It worked for me… 😉
    Honestly, this is the problem with the consumerization of everything. It’s hard to find a reasonably sized screen without making severe compromises simply because of the mass market effect. That being said, the new 24″ screens are quite nice.

      • computron9000
      • 11 years ago

      I agree. I have two Ben Q 24″. People see it and always, outloud, “Damn!”

    • adisor19
    • 11 years ago

    Aaaahh Damage 🙂 Looks like your problem is a classic one. And guess what, your solution probably involves switching to OS X eventually 😉

    Ok ok, let me explain first. Resolution independence is what is ruining your day. If the OS would have this feature, the pitch size of your screen would not matter as the OS would know what it is and it would just adjust its scale so that a window sitting on both screens would actually look completely seamless.

    Apple has been working on this since OS X 10.3 with each version improving support for resolution independence. As of 10.5 it is still not quite ready yet as its buggy in certain cases and it misses the last piece of the puzzle : screen independence. Right now as of 10.5, it scales everything globally, but as of 10.6 rumours say it will take into consideration the pitch size of each screen independently and thus leading to multi monitor nirvana no matter the size of the monitor 🙂

    Maybe at that time you’ll consider reviewing a Mac ? I could swear you attempted to do that in the past but it somehow never came to be…

    Anyways, in the meantime, i do have a Dell 2001FP LCD (WFP ?! i have to check as i don’t remember exactly) that i no longer need. It’s been used for about 1.5 years by my GF and it’s in perfect condition. Contact me if you’re interested.

    Adi

    • JustAnEngineer
    • 11 years ago

    Consider the NEC LCD2490WUXi.

    • Usacomp2k3
    • 11 years ago

    At work I have 3 screens: 2 8-bit monitors (a Dell 2005fpw and an Apple Studio Display 17″ and a 6-bit one (Optiquest 17″). Honestly, for most stuff, especially text, it doesn’t make that much of a difference. I can’t remember ever intentionally positioning something on the 8-bit ones other than just to have it on the right or left. I honestly thought I would mind more, but I don’t. *shrug*

    • UberGerbil
    • 11 years ago

    Yeah, I haven’t seen any 8bit or non-TN panels in the 20″ range in quite a while. You might find something in the 22″ niche, though again your pixel pitch will be a bit off.

    The obvious solution is to get *[

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