HP’s LP2475w monitor: IPS at a bargain price

Those who follow my blog may have some idea of the trouble I’ve encountered trying to replace my aging (and dimming) 20.1″ Viewsonic VX2025wm with a good 24″ display. I purchased Dell’s UltraSharp 2408WFP in April, but I sent the monitor back almost immediately after running into a flurry of problems—high input lag, excessive sharpness, unnervingly uneven backlighting, and humming noises at certain brightness levels, to name a few.

Dell has since released a revision A01 of the 2408WFP. Fellow TR editor Geoff Gasior got a couple of them and hasn’t run into any of the issues I mentioned, so Dell may well have gotten its act together. However, the company now charges around €800 (~$1,000) for the monitor here, and promotions seem few and far between. Tired of waiting for the price to go back down to the neighborhood of €650, I eventually started eyeing HP’s new LP2475w (thanks Matt).

You don’t hear the LP2475w’s model number shouted throughout enthusiast forums, but that’s a shame. While this monitor costs only around $600 in the United States and less than €600 here, it includes an IPS display panel. LCD connoisseurs will know IPS panels generally offer better image quality and color reproduction than not only the TN panels common in cheap monitors, but also the PVA panels used in displays like the 2408WFP. Despite the premium panel, HP’s monitor has many of the same perks as the 2408WFP, including a plethora of display inputs, from DisplayPort and HDMI to composite and component. Being part of HP’s business monitor range, the LP2475w even has on-site warranty support. Neat.

 

With a €50-off coupon code I found on the web, I ended up snagging the LP2475w for just €534.84. Less than two days later, the display was sitting on my desk and I was madly tweaking color, contrast, and brightness settings. I’m not going to rant about how much time I spent adjusting those, because the LP2475w is far and away superior to the first-revision 2408WFP I used—no input lag, no excessive sharpness, only moderate backlight unevenness (that seems hard to avoid these days), and no humming. Even the OSD controls feel nicer to use. The color rendering is breathtaking, too, and the IPS panel isn’t victim to the same color-shifting issues as its PVA brethren. Don’t know what I’m talking about? Scroll down to the purple image on this page and move your head. If you have a PVA or TN display, you should see the color shift between purple and blue. The LP2475w renders a solid purple color no matter where I’m looking from.

As nice as it is, this display takes some getting used to. If you’ve never tried a wide-gamut monitor before, you’re in for a surprise: over-saturated colors galore. As I understand it, the display’s backlight allows it to render 102% of the NTSC color gamut, while older models (like my ViewSonic) can only render 72%. Since most images on the web are designed on regular-gamut monitors and don’t have embedded ICC profiles, they tend to look a bit too saturated on the LP2475w and its wide-gamut brothers and sisters, including the 2408WFP, 2407WFP-HC, and many others. Luckily, Firefox 3 supports color management, so you can get more accurate colors if you install HP’s ICC profile from the CD.

Also, while the backlight unevenness is a lot less shocking than on the first-rev 2408WFP I used, it’s more noticeable than on my old displays. The right and bottom edges of the panel are noticeably darker than the rest, although the difference is slight enough that I expect to stop noticing it after a while. Oh, and while this is an IPS display with 178° viewing angles, you’ll still want to look straight on for the best picture. Otherwise, some parts of the display may look somewhat dimmer. You’ll never get the strange “negative” effect as on TN panels no matter where you look from, though.

TrackMania United Forever never looked so good.

Before I stop rambling, I should probably say something about the LP2475w’s contrast and brightness. You can turn the brightness high enough to sear your retinas, but blacks remain very satisfyingly deep no matter what. That makes this display a joy to use in games and movies. I was a bit disoriented the first time I popped into a game of Left 4 Dead on this thing, because shadows were so much darker that I actually had to make a greater effort to see the zombies. Good thing Valve put in that auto-shotgun. As for racing games like TrackMania United Forever, you haven’t lived until you’ve played one on a huge, high-contrast monitor.

HP’s LP2475w isn’t perfect. Far from it. But when you take into account its low price, IPS panel, inputs, and, image quality, I believe it’s a fantastic deal. I won’t be sending this one back anytime soon.

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    • lycium
    • 11 years ago

    thanks for the heads up about this screen, just purchased one in new zealand for the equivalent of 400 euros! that’s a really nice special 😀

    • lycium
    • 11 years ago

    thanks for the heads up and mini-review cyril! i am looking to grab one of these to complement my 2407wfp.

    • Rakhmaninov3
    • 11 years ago

    Nice keyboard 🙂 My bro has one of those lovable dinosaurs and it’s fantastic.

    • sigher
    • 11 years ago

    I spot some IKEA in that picture 🙂

      • lycium
      • 11 years ago

      this.. is.. EUROPE!

    • MadManOriginal
    • 11 years ago

    This topic isn’t getting many replies any more so I should ahve asked this earlier but hopefully Cyril can reply since he has first-hand knowledge…

    I would like to know how severe the anti-glare coating is on this monitor. I am a fan of glossy screens for desktops and when I tried a Dell 2407 the anti-glare drove me nuts, it was as if someone had spread a thin layer of sand across the screen which made everything sparkly and wierd like I was looking through a grainy filter. It was bad because my plane of focus ended up being the screen coating rather than the image itself, that’s why I like glossy so much, even with glare the plane of focus is on the image itself not the reflection. So how does the anti-glare compare to Dell LCDs?

      • Cyril
      • 11 years ago

      I’ve never tried a 2407, but the anti-glare coating on my ViewSonic is much more noticeable than on this one. It actually kinda bothered me on the ViewSonic when dealing with gradients, whereas on the HP, I can easily “tune out” the coating and focus on the image. Perhaps that’s just because it’s brighter, though.

        • MadManOriginal
        • 11 years ago

        Thanks. What about versus the 2408 you had, although visual memory might not be the best, or any other Dell anti-glare monitor?

          • Cyril
          • 11 years ago

          I don’t remember how the glare coating on the first-revision 2408 was, sorry. I don’t think it caught my eye, though, since I was more focused on the other image quality problems. 😉

            • MadManOriginal
            • 11 years ago

            Hm, it was something that stuck me as immediately noticable on the 2407, made me want to wipe the screen :p I will have to do more asking around then, I just loathe reading the multi-hundred post [H] threads but they are the best source of user reviews on monitors.

    • grug
    • 11 years ago

    Here in Australia the LP2475W is pretty much double the price of the 2408WFP, which makes purchasing decisions a lot harder…

    • Joel H.
    • 11 years ago

    I laugh at those still using CRTs, unless required to do so for pinpoint-accurate color reproduction (or simply doing so to save money).

    The rest of you need to stop using LCDs from circa 2000 as comparison points when you blare the “superiority” of the CRT. For the record, I have two, both of which I’ve used recently–one 22″ Sun display, and one 19″ Sony G420.

    No doubt about it, they were great in their day, which in the Sony’s case, was eight years ago. I’ve got a Samsung 245T sitting nearby on my main, and while I do wish I could step up again to IPS from S-PVA, I’ve been quite happy with it. Factor in the power consumption, heat, weight, and size differences, and I can’t see how anyone would even *want* a CRT anymore.

    • Pax-UX
    • 11 years ago

    You need to be playing Left 4 Dead on a 40″ Samsung LE40M86BD HDTV if you want to get the whole movie experience! All I have to say is my last year of game has been fun.

    • ludi
    • 11 years ago

    A beautiful IPS-driven image being displayed on my TN panel? Isn’t that a little like showing someone how good your stereo is over the phone?

    • Forge
    • 11 years ago

    I’m sold. I was waiting for a 2408WFP to fall into my budget, but this does everything better, and makes me happy to move off my 2000FP.

    • kravo
    • 11 years ago

    how do people organise the cables behind the desk so well??? I am never going to figure it out…. :S

      • Krogoth
      • 11 years ago

      Tie-knots = FTW

      • indeego
      • 11 years ago

      I don’t… Any cable management system ends up getting in the way eventually anywayg{<.<}g

        • moose17145
        • 11 years ago

        I tend to agree… i had all my cables all nice and neatly organized behind my desk for a good couple of months. Too bad that ended the first time i went to a LAN party and had to take all the ties off the cables. after i set it back up i said screw it, it’s not worth the work to make it neat again if i am gonna be moving it once a month anyways.

      • ludi
      • 11 years ago

      Split-loom nylon tubing is your friend. Easy on, easy off.

    • Voldenuit
    • 11 years ago

    l[

    • srg86
    • 11 years ago

    Wow, £450 for a monitor. It reminds me of the old 17″ Iiyama Vision masters of the early to mid 1990s.

      • ludi
      • 11 years ago

      NEC Multisyncs could part you with that kind of money, too.

        • srg86
        • 11 years ago

        I remember sooo wanting a Multisync monitor for my Amiga 1200 at the time.

    • indeego
    • 11 years ago

    Looks washed out, from that pictureg{<.<}g

    • Scrotos
    • 11 years ago

    When you say, “far from it” in relation to it being perfect, what are the flaws that drive that statement? The brightness from backlighting and the oversaturation, or is it something else? A glowing review until that last statement where I’m like, “oh wait, so what’s its fatal flaw?”

    • Kurotetsu
    • 11 years ago

    I think the wide gamut oversaturation issue is the biggest problem I’ve heard of for this monitor. The problem also shows up in movies as well (from the screen shots I’ve seen).

    One advantage that isn’t mentioned in this article is 1:1 pixel mapping, which this monitor has. Thats very useful if you’re plugging in something like a PS2 through the component-in.

    I’m still juggling between this and the Planar PX2611W myself The Planar has a slightly lower color gamut (92%) so the saturation problem probably won’t be as pronounced.

    • Meadows
    • 11 years ago

    I’ll never “upgrade” from my 21″ CRT, or at least won’t do it until bargain 4:3 ratio 2 ms IPS LCD screens (that are 22″ or larger) take over the market, which won’t happen ever.

    • Umbongo
    • 11 years ago

    “You don’t hear the LP2475w’s model number shouted throughout enthusiast forums, but that’s a shame.”

    I assume the enthusiasts you are referring to are gamers as I often find it reccomended (and do so myself if it hasn’t been) for those seeking a display for work rather than play.

      • Flying Fox
      • 11 years ago

      I agree.

      Cyril please spend more time in our forums. We shout out the HP monitor in most of the recent “looking for 24″ monitor” threads.

      So we are not an enthusiast site? Or wait, we must be the elite enthusiast site then!. 😀

      • continuum
      • 11 years ago

      r[

    • kvndoom
    • 11 years ago

    I sure hope there are some good options around when (if) the day comes that I choose to upgrade from my 2405FPW. It’s been an awesome monitor, but sooner or later I’m gonna want 27″ or 30″.

      • Usacomp2k3
      • 11 years ago

      2407 user here. Love the thing. Probably going to replace it with a proper TV at some point though. It’ll then continue on with life as a the TV for a 2nd room.

    • LoneWolf15
    • 11 years ago

    Nice Model M, Cyril. I use them both at home and at work, and won’t take anything else (except maybe a Unicomp, same diff.) for daily use.

    • sdack
    • 11 years ago

    Nice monitor, but the keyboard …?!?

    • A_Pickle
    • 11 years ago

    I saw the picture on the frontpage and I thought to myself: /[

    • liquidsquid
    • 11 years ago

    Nice, I wonder if they have some larger models?

      • A_Pickle
      • 11 years ago

      I have a 28″ Hanns-G monitor, and… while it’s fantastic… it’s also much too big for a TN panel. Just by sitting in front of it, you can see TN viewing angle hell at the far reaches of the display.

      Otherwise, it’s quite nice, though.

    • emorgoch
    • 11 years ago

    $789 CAD for the LP2475w vs. $699 CAD for the W2408WFP (and I got it on sale for $549 just 2 weeks ago).

    It appears the Great White North doesn’t get the sweet deal you get across the pond (relatively speaking)

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