The ol’ ball and chain

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    • Mystic-G
    • 8 years ago

    The steam artwork is all wrong…. she’s not in the kitchen making me dinner.

    • entropy13
    • 8 years ago

    Really only applies if you have good internet to begin with…

    • fpsduck
    • 8 years ago

    I’m getting old.
    At first I read Activition instead of Activations.
    And hey, Steam chick is ugly, IMO.

    • TaBoVilla
    • 8 years ago

    Nice one Fred, nice one.

    • Rakhmaninov3
    • 8 years ago

    lolz!

    Heart the comix.

    • Nutmeg
    • 8 years ago

    BF3 is pretty much the only reason anyone would ever give a flying fuck about Origin over Steam. Using it though, it doesn’t seem too bad, it’s reasonably slick and is a lot better than GFWL.

      • TurtlePerson2
      • 8 years ago

      The Old Republic is probably the real reason that anyone will use it. People expect to use some sort of external system to access an MMO.

    • blitzy
    • 8 years ago

    For Steam I was expecting to see the gamer stuck in a gimp suit with a chain around his neck that Gabe Newell is holding… Gabe’s your daddy now

      • ludi
      • 8 years ago

      Those are the people who are still waiting for the HL2 episodic content. That’s not a Steam issue per se.

    • indeego
    • 8 years ago

    Thought Bacon was Reddit’s thing?

    • ludi
    • 8 years ago

    Now THIS one I likes. I likes it very muchly.

    • Corrado
    • 8 years ago

    Steam will not be like the comic until they get active, real time, phone support. If I run into a problem, more often than not it takes DAYS to resolve, if they even look at the trouble ticket in the first place. Theres no direct email addres. Theres no phone number to call. They’re more than happy to take your money immediately but they are less inclined to support you when problems come up. Its IMPOSSIBLE to get timely (read: same day) support from Steam.

    Not sure how they don’t even have a support number to call. They make enough money.

    When my MS activation is messed up, I call up MS, and they instantly clear my activation so I can proceed. Adobe is the same way. Can’t speak to Origin as I’ve never used it though. If my Steam game won’t run, you fill out a web form and wait days/weeks for a response, if you ever get one. Paying for community support in the Steam forums isn’t a legitimate support structure.

      • Rikki-Tikki-Tavi
      • 8 years ago

      Agreed. The situation is even worse overseas…

    • sweatshopking
    • 8 years ago

    except it should be Gabe Newell, not some blonde.

      • kvndoom
      • 8 years ago

      the image you just put in my head… DO NOT WANT

      • CaptTomato
      • 8 years ago

      He’d take the whole frame, lol.

        • indeego
        • 8 years ago

        Portal 3 has larger Portals to fit Gabe.

      • yogibbear
      • 8 years ago

      “Did you want more bacon, well there’s NONE left!” *cackles*….

        • thanatos355
        • 8 years ago

        Honest to god laugh out loud moment there!

          • Krogoth
          • 8 years ago

          and to finish it off with a Gabe troll-face….

          [url<]http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq185/steams_baconeggs/Gabe_Trollface.jpg?t=1276568221[/url<]

    • kvndoom
    • 8 years ago

    Will someone please explain to me the reason behind the very existence of GFWL? Microsoft has completely abandoned PC gaming. No more gaming hardware, no more A-List games. They WANT you to use an Xbox instead of your PC, and are doing everything in their power to steer you in that direction. So why even offer a “service” such as this for PC games when they have no stake in the market?

      • CaptTomato
      • 8 years ago

      To put you OFF PC gaming….

        • mcnabney
        • 8 years ago

        Which reinforces their stupidity.

        Without Windows games, I wouldn’t have Windows AT ALL.

        Google and Apple are going to drink Microsoft’s milkshake, and we will look back and see that consoles are what stripped PCs of their key Killer App.

          • BobbinThreadbare
          • 8 years ago

          Maybe Microsoft doesn’t care about Windows in the consumer market?

      • Krogoth
      • 8 years ago

      A PR move to make Microsoft look like they care about PC gaming, so PC gamers would buy their latest OS because GWFL was meant to go with Vista/7.

      In reality, MS doesn’t really consider PC gaming to be a high priority. They are focusing far resources on the more lucrative XBL.

      • bthylafh
      • 8 years ago

      Money, power, or a combination of the two: the usual reasons.

      • Corrado
      • 8 years ago

      To tie the remaining PC gamers into XBox Live and that entire platform. Theres a group of people who will NOT use consoles no matter what they do. So why not try and make the same money off of them on PC games using DLC, etc, while also bringing them voice chat, messaging, etc?

      • Pettytheft
      • 8 years ago

      They went in half cocked trying to tie the PC with Xbox live. They thought they could charge for it initially and they more or less were laughed at by every PC gamer out there. To top it off it was a minimal effort and it shows. It would be nice if we had something like Live for PC. I don’t think they’ve given up yet and it has improved a bit. Had they launched GFWL with the way it is now it would have done a bit better.

      Contrary to gamers whining Microsoft is not trying to bury PC gaming. Their efforts at reviving it are minimal as that division seems to be focused more on the Xbox. As long as there is Direct X to push Microsoft wont be killing off any part of PC gaming.

        • kvndoom
        • 8 years ago

        I tend to wonder, based on them killing the Sidewinder line, as well as the Halo and FASA fiascoes. DirectX improvements might just be to keep what is left of PC gaming on Windows. If they dropped DX and a superior API came out for Macs or Linux (I know, I know, but weirder things have happened) then they lose Windows market share.

          • Corrado
          • 8 years ago

          Exactly this. If its not for Windows gaming, Windows doesn’t exactly have much of an advantage over OS X or even Linux. Linux is a little more clunky to use for non-technical people(a LITTLE, not a lot), and OS X is pretty solid as a consumer OS. How many times have you seen ‘if it wasn’t for gaming, i’d drop Windows’. Microsoft knows this and would NEVER try and completely kill PC gaming. Its a love hate relationship.

      • BobbinThreadbare
      • 8 years ago

      I actually thought GFWL was intentionally bad to try to get more people to switch to xboxes.

      • sweatshopking
      • 8 years ago

      i don’t actually mind it. it’s always worked for me, and i like chatting with my buddies who play xbox, of which i have a lot. it’s no better/worse than steam, imo.

    • Krogoth
    • 8 years ago

    Having no DRM beats them all. It allows hassle-free offline gaming, dedicated servers and LAN support.

    The entire point of gaming networks is to limit user control. It is building the foundations for a subscription-base scheme. The major publishers want to copy the fiscal success of XBL and MMORPG like WoW.

    Steam hasn’t done this yet, it just a digital distributor at the moment. Who knows when Valve will follow the rest of the gang. They already tasted the fruit with DLCs in the form of the Mann Store (TF2) and Portal 2 stuff.

    EA/Origin are dead set on this. The others major publishers aren’t too far behind with their own solutions.

    MS doesn’t care, XBL/360 is more important to them. That’s why GWFL is a still-bornt, half-ass copy+paste of XBL and MS is doing nothing to change the situation.

      • CaptTomato
      • 8 years ago

      “””The entire point of gaming networks is to limit user control”””

      Sounds like I need a new hobby…..

        • Krogoth
        • 8 years ago

        It is only the big publishers that are trying to persue this.

        The small independent developers are still around who may have want to go with the entire subscription-base model. They may even see it as a opportunity to catch people who will inevitably get a soar experience.

          • CaptTomato
          • 8 years ago

          I don’t usually like indie games as they have inferior GFX and physx, or just don’t get it right.
          If the triple A titles keep annoying me I’ll buy a prosumer camcorder and fiddle around with that for fun.

          • sweatshopking
          • 8 years ago

          sore*

      • willyolio
      • 8 years ago

      actually, Steam DOES have one advantage over zero-DRM: I don’t have to take care of any discs.

      I’m still allowed to install, re-install, and re-install on multiple computers without having to burn my own backup discs, and it’s mostly automated, so if i’m setting up a new gaming computer I can just leave it on overnight and 10+ games will install themselves.

      It’s pretty much the only time I’ve ever seen a DRM service actually add value, which all the others don’t seem to understand.

        • kamikaziechameleon
        • 8 years ago

        That is why I repurchase games on steam when they are on sale. Not to mention the community tools.

          • sweatshopking
          • 8 years ago

          then you have too much money or too little sense.

        • Krogoth
        • 8 years ago

        I suppose that you have a point with Steam being used as a cloud-based back-up system for games. Steam itself allows local back-ups as well under its encryption/compression scheme. You just need to access Steam to unlock/extract it when you need to do disaster recovery.

          • BobbinThreadbare
          • 8 years ago

          You don’t even have to use Steam’s method. You can just copy the files from steamapps/common and Steam will recognize them and not redownload them. Again you do still have to connect to the servers to authenticate.

    • BobbinThreadbare
    • 8 years ago

    After a ton of negativity regarding these comics, I just want to say I have generally enjoyed them. So keep up the good work.

    (although, I didn’t care for the PhysX strip, just wasn’t funny imo)

    • ClickClick5
    • 8 years ago

    The GFWL frame made me laugh. Hard.

    • thanatos355
    • 8 years ago

    Bacon? Hell yeah! 😀

    Also, I think this is my favorite comic thus far. Keep up the good work.

    • Arclight
    • 8 years ago

    Mrs. Steam knows best cause she thinks with portals.

    • Spurenleser
    • 8 years ago

    Nobody is forcing people to use any of these services. It’s not like you use Origin, Windows Live (or whatever the MS Store is) or Steam to vote or pay your bills. You’re using it because you want to be entertained and now the question is how much are you willing to give for that. Money, sure. Time, of course. A little bit of convenience? Well, depends on how good the game is. So yeah, in the end the user chains himself to these services out of his own free will and could, at any time, drop the shackles and be free again.

      • internetsandman
      • 8 years ago

      The point of this is to say that you’re not chained to anything with Steam, especially compared to the other services out there. Steam is a service that you actively WANT to use, the others are there and force you to go through a whole bunch of crap you absolutely do not want to deal with

        • HisDivineOrder
        • 8 years ago

        I suppose that’s true. However, to imply that Steam doesn’t have activation limits is to be disingenuous. It’s wholly up to the publisher/developer. There are games on Steam that have activation limits still. Batman AA is one, for example. In fact, there are Steam games that have DRM on top of Steam plus activation limits last time I checked.

        Steam is great because of the sales, the impressive achievement/integration functionality, the ability to redownload your content anytime and have it updated automatically without you hunting down a patch, the fact that Valve seems to be trustworthy about not abusing your trust, and because of the damn sales.

        Origin promises to be adding autopatching soon-ish. It’s adding an achievement system across all their platforms (ie., Xbox, PS, Nintendo, iOS, Android, web) that seems to be leaning in the direction of a system where you buy your content and it applies across all the platforms, though that remains to be seen if it winds up there. Plus, you get Origin as a perk for buying an EA title (usually anyway, ie. Bulletstorm) in most cases because you can buy it retail, buy it Steam, buy it whereever and you can add it to your Origin account to have an additional place where your license is stored and accessible. Plus, if they really do add their own achievement/point system, they give you a way to track your games across all your different devices.

        It’s not without its drawbacks. Activations aren’t really the worst ones, though, because that’s true of Steam or Impulse or GfWL/Xbox/whatever or any of the similar alternatives. Activation is bad, but it’s not an exclusive bad thing for Origin. It’s as true of Steam as it is Origin and as wholly dependent upon the publisher as Steam.

        I completely agree with the assessment of GfWL though. It is a porcupine. Hell, I’d have made it a skunk-porcupine crossbreed hideous monster beast that is humping your leg. Because not only is it horrible, inefficient, unwanted, and annoying… it’s all over you. I mean, seriously. It’s on the games you want to play and you can’t seem to get publishers to stop using it. Plus, the application is hideous and won’t even minimize to tray to just get out of your start bar. So you can’t even put it out of sight to hopefully forget it’s on your computer, so you can’t even use GfWL as a serious Steam/Origin/Impulse competitor.

        Plus, it stinks up every game it is included with by forcing you through a stupid log in process on every game it works on. Heaven forbid it fail. And speaking of Steam, then there’s the joy when you got a game with Steam that has DRM, activations, AND it has Games for Windows Live on top of that.

        Talk about a clusterf**k.

          • BobbinThreadbare
          • 8 years ago

          In the comic however, it is specifically a Valve game sold on Steam, which doesn’t have any activation limits.

        • deinabog
        • 8 years ago

        I’d prefer to not have to install Steam to play any games. But that’s just me.

          • JMccovery
          • 8 years ago

          Just like the games that FORCE you to install GFWL? A majority of games that are out and ones that will come out will force you to install one of the services.

          I bought Batman: AA, Street Fighter 4 and Dirt 2 on Steam, and guess what, I HAD to install GFWL or I could not install the games. I really wish GFWL would die, and I would be provided with a way to remove it from the games I own that make use of it.

            • PetMiceRnice
            • 8 years ago

            I was an avid PC gamer since 1991 and abandoned buying PC games pretty much cold turkey when the whole concept of forced activations and limits on the number of times you could install a game was introduced. That was about the time when Command & Conquer Red Alert 3 came out. Steam really wasn’t acceptable to me either. I ended up going to the consoles, which is too bad in a way since I enjoyed gaming on the PC for all those years and especially miss the RTS games. But at least I still have most of my old PC games and have a lot of them installed. Right now the oldest game I have installed is Total Annihilation, probably the newest is Command & Conquer Tiberium Wars and it’s expansion. I also plan to get DOSBox going again so that I can really play some classics that I still have from way back when.

          • sweatshopking
          • 8 years ago

          that’s where i come from too. saying such things around here with get you minused however.

      • Meadows
      • 8 years ago

      Why should we give up convenience to be entertained? Those things go against each other.

        • kc77
        • 8 years ago

        Because people kept making excuses when all of this piss poor technology came out. Now it’s everywhere, and largely impossible to get rid of unless you refuse to turn on your computer at all.

      • CaptTomato
      • 8 years ago

      “”Nobody is forcing people to use any of these services””

      True, and that’s why I’m going to avoid BF3 if it’s linked to Origin{the worst offender in my experience}.
      I keep saying this, I’ve got way more respect for used car dealers I’ve met over the yrs….I’m also from Australia where these jerks are comfortable overcharging us, especially given the introduction of digital services.

      BF3 linked to Origin=BF3 is dead to me.

      • derFunkenstein
      • 8 years ago

      wow, why are you getting so down-voted? You’d think gaming was as essential to life as breathing.

        • sweatshopking
        • 8 years ago

        because people are silly. i love how your so sensible, Ben.

        • Squeazle
        • 8 years ago

        Considering the topic is gaming, and the comment is about gaming, I would probably say that gamers disagree with his idea of a fair gaming market.
        No one is telling him to die. Just to reconsider his thoughts on gaming.
        Games, ya?

          • derFunkenstein
          • 8 years ago

          I like games, but nobody is forcing you to buy them through any of these stores. If a game isn’t available, go play something else, yano?

        • CaptTomato
        • 8 years ago

        Because to some degree, it’s stupid to pop into a gaming thread and treat any bad news with a “well golly Ned, you don’t gotsto game ya know”….

          • Spurenleser
          • 8 years ago

          I can see the appeal of gaming, but as much as I like it and even though I have wasted countless hours gaming as a teenager, I just think it’s sad that adults can’t find anything at least remotely useful to do with their time other than gaming. Instead there’s whining about DRM, the distribution service or bad graphics. Learn to play the guitar, go climbing, hiking, swimming or find some other fun hobby that doesn’t involve spending what little leisure time is left doing the same thing you did all day, sitting in in front of that screen some more.

          To each his own I guess.

            • CaptTomato
            • 8 years ago

            I suppose with Techreport being a tech site rather than a pure gaming forum your views have some merit, but I enjoy games and don’t like the annoying practices various companies employ, as such I have every intention of whinging about it.

            • BobbinThreadbare
            • 8 years ago

            Why shouldn’t gaming be as easy and carefree as possible?

            Is there any reason there should be contrived annoyances tethered to video games?

            • David
            • 8 years ago

            What if I don’t sit in front of a screen all day? Am I allowed to use my home computer for leisure then?

            Also, none of the “leisure” activities you mentioned are the least bit useful to your average person.

            I’d love to discuss some more but I’ve got to do some super-useful wakeboarding instead of viewing techreport.

      • Skrying
      • 8 years ago

      You’re right. Why should I want things I buy to be better…

      • kamikaziechameleon
      • 8 years ago

      I think that if origin was a dev move and not a publisher power play it would go over allot better(kinda like how steam and Impulse{RIP} did)

      • PeterD
      • 8 years ago

      I’m really afraid of the day I will be forced to use Windows Live, you know? It scares the hell out of me.

      • Rakhmaninov3
      • 8 years ago

      Wow 22 negative votes!

      I salute you, sir.

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