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by Glorious
Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:07 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

From my end I think you are the one that's dishonest, so by extension I don't believe your age nor occupation claims. This goes both ways when you start insulting others. Right, so I started a fifteen-year plus long deception in the hope that eventually someone would show up to argue about Tesla, a...
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:36 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

What sane person says they're fearing somebody because of their opinion on a new car company? If you can't handle getting called out for it, then don't start throwing stones out of that glass house, old man. Ok, so you're trolling, then? Because you've been independently told I'm not an old man, an...
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:42 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

JBI wrote:
He's very good at that.


Hey, you know, what's that about? (in the vein of "hey, just how badly can we derail this, anyway?")

Why does everyone always think I'm like 75? I'm not even half that!
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

I don't remember ever agreeing with him. I said that there could potentially be improvements for many by having a public system. I also said I didn't want a private transport. What's got you confused? I don't know what got me confused, but yeah, you're right: I'm confused. Sorry, I kinda latched on...
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:36 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

JBI wrote:
He's very good at that. IIRC in reality he's actually younger than many of the other people posting in this thread by quite a wide margin (my kids' age, more or less).


I obviously don't know exactly, but at best I think I'm only a few years older than your oldest, yeah.
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:35 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

It sounds to me like you're close to retirement. Nope. But it's pretty hilarious to see you doubling down on the absurd idea that the guy who earlier this week literally asked Neal Stephenson, in person, if he invented bitcoin is some sort of luddite. I can respect your view on things even if I dis...
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:46 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

I really don't care what a technophobe trusts or distrusts, your approval is not important, and your living in fear is your problem not mine. Yes I'm a tech geek and proud of it. I'm a prolific poster on technological enthusiast site who works in automation and has more computers in his house than ...
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:13 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

People will always be afraid of the next new technology, this is not a new thing. Hell, they were afraid of cars. But progress happens regardless and society evolves and grows more efficient in tackling bigger and bigger challenges. No, I'm afraid of dishonest people like you who talk about "E...
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:09 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

Why ditch? Possibly because it COULD be better? Lots of ifs there and I don't personally want transport to be privatized. Well, what do you think wierdo is talking about? One of my points is that public transportation is meant to be a public good. It's supposed to provide people in an area affordab...
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:00 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

These companies could double prices and still be attractive in the City for many people, but I think they're trying to establish their presence and bleed the competition out right now to corner the market. It's ridiculous how much more convenient they are compared to driving in the busier populatio...
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:14 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

...and this was without the overhead of purchasing/leasing/maintaining their own fleet of vehicles! ...with non-unionized "independent contractor" drivers who are very vocal about how they're getting unfairly shafted by Uber. (The SEC filing for their recent IPO LITERALLY SAYS: "we e...
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:51 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

Let me get this straight, public transportation which is at absolute best is barely break-even because it's really intended as a public good, needs to adopt the Uber model in order to lower costs. Dude, Uber lost nearly 2 billion dollars last year. They lost a 1 billion just in 1Q2019. --- ...I'm be...
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:38 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

First off, you explicitly said "and capacity" which is absolutely false. Second off, in regards to the other half of your statement, Cost, this is make-believe: I'm saying it's untrue because I actually know something about it. Which is that this sort of information is 100% non-public. No ...
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

He assumes that the EVs will also eventually be self-driving. I mean, there's literally no connection between the two concepts, but Tesla, an EV company, is also a (forward-looking, forward-looking ! We deny that all such comments are material representations---Tesla lawyers) "self-driving"...
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:15 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

wierdo wrote:
I'm pretty excited to see how this plays out, there's allot of money on the table,


When you make up your own numbers, sure.

But then all that money is just make-believe.
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:15 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

No we are not. That's your idea of long-term thinking? Money in money out, without the externalities of the current market disruption? Have you considered to what end? Spending money on expansion is not a waste, you're trying to capture a niche and deferring greater growth potential, that giant bat...
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:23 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

And then of course more bike lanes and electric bikes and scooters would be nice, but the challenge here is the legacy city planning that's in a given place, some cities were better designed around them, others are behind, Right, if only we would tear up all these places and then force people to li...
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:20 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

Again, this is that short term "business diploma mill" thinking that's afflicting our country, not the long-term planning and the vision to follow the progress we're seeing on the ground, something that's literally a "foreign" concept now. You say all this, but yet Tesla has a m...
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:45 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

Glorious wrote:
Or, in actuality, is this some obviously bogus number based on "fans" like you self-reporting their purchase price?


Oh man, I even forgot I explicitly predicted this.

Geez Louise.
by Glorious
Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:35 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

Ah I see the cause for confusion, I was referring to their Q3 2018 sales specifically, but wrote "is selling" rather than "was selling" in the sentence, apologies. This is what I was referring to: https://cleantechnica.com/2018/08/23/te ... veys-find/ https://cleantechnica.com/2...
by Glorious
Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Kempner Rice Diet
Replies: 69
Views: 1382

Re: Kempner Rice Diet

Igor_Kavinski wrote:
Only issue is, it's hard on the kidneys and they specifically mention not to do it if you have CKD.


"I'll take 'How many organs can I utterly F up' for 5 short months of dieting, Trebek!"
by Glorious
Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:16 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

https://www.energy.gov/timeline/timelin ... ectric-car Well over a century ago. Yeah, but that was also when we had steam cars and other such contraptions competing with the ICE, and the ICEs had like hand-crankers that meant turning the engine over was an arduous manual affair that you then had to...
by Glorious
Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:10 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

I mean, just on the face of it, why wouldn't I be incredulous when someone who wants to make a difference as big as possible argues the following: I have no figures, but the average selling of price of Vehicle A approaches its maximum price, whereas the average selling price of vehicle B approaches ...
by Glorious
Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:51 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

The average selling price for the Model 3 on that chart was around 60k. A Camry was around 25k. The base model didn't exist back then. Try again. Your cited chart literally doesn't say that, whereas the CEO of Tesla has repeatedly said the target is 35k and that it was around 42k in actuality. Whic...
by Glorious
Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:01 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

wierdo wrote:
car behind the Toyota Camry that sells at a third of the price


I mean, at some point this becomes lying.

Do you seriously think a new camry goes for between 12-14 thousand?

A Yaris even isn't that cheap.
by Glorious
Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:48 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Kempner Rice Diet
Replies: 69
Views: 1382

Re: Kempner Rice Diet

I meant a random coincidence. Uh. I knew that you meant "random coincidence" when you said coincidence the first time---that's the colloquially connotation of "coincidence". In fact, my entire response was predicated on that reading, because it presupposed that you were wrong ab...
by Glorious
Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:40 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Kempner Rice Diet
Replies: 69
Views: 1382

Re: Kempner Rice Diet

Because the thinking that starches or carbs cause Diabetes is wrong. It's the unhealthy amount of plant oils used to cook food. The rice diet has no fats other than the natural fats in white rice which leads to reduced fat burden on the body, allowing it to function more effectively. This is anti-s...
by Glorious
Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:34 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

At this point, I think they want us to buy the "Tesla message", more than money. To which I say... "no thanks". And this, to me, is -exactly- the biggest red flag (not that there aren't others...) about Tesla: In business development you generally don't want the exciting larger-...
by Glorious
Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:14 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

That is pretty bad spin on a good thing You caught me, I'm a dreaded "short-seller". (to be clear, because I am afraid it will be necessary, I am 100% joking . I have no equity position in anything at all, just a very category -diversified 401k). this is not news to anyone that follows th...
by Glorious
Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:01 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: To Lease or too buy an EV
Replies: 248
Views: 4040

Re: To Lease or too buy an EV

We're not talking lazy compliance vehicles here, we're talking proper EVs that people actually want to buy, EVs that are better than ICE cars. Legacy manufacturers were not going to make those, they have sunk costs, conservative corporate cultures and internal politics, and are bogged down by their...