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by Glorious
Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:31 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: How Apple Dethroned Intel As the World's Most Innovative Chipmaker
Replies: 105
Views: 3486

Re: How Apple Dethroned Intel As the World's Most Innovative Chipmaker

windwalker wrote:
It turned out exactly like it did for Javascript: the worse technology won.


What was the competitor to javascript?

And what was better, when?

68k? PPC? ARM?
by Glorious
Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:02 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Air conditioner unit making annoying bubbling noise
Replies: 20
Views: 11587

Re: Air conditioner unit making annoying bubbling noise

derfunkenstein wrote:
It's been like that for around two years, so I'm guessing it's not leaking. The depressurization remains a mystery.


Those vehicle AC-charge kits virtually always contain sealants to plug small leaks, so that might be the explanation.

It could also just honestly be a mystery too, though hahaa
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:34 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

dragontamer5788 wrote:
A lot of things have happened, and that particular tariff may not necessarily be to blame.


Yes, things like either time travel or parallel universes.
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:34 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

It seems like the only thing we've got is this "material" (whatever it was) was $1.50/lb in December 2017 and $2.80/lb today. A lot of things have happened, and that particular tariff may not necessarily be to blame. Having the baseline of the graph be anything other than the announcement...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:24 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

Keating suggested that the tariffs began affecting the company in January The tariffs, factually, were announced on March 1st, 2018. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_tariffs On March 1, 2018 Trump announced his intention to impose a 25% tariff on steel and a 10% tariff on aluminum imports So I'm...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:18 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

I'd also like to mention that if you are spending 600 USD on a custom computer case, you are probably going to be really, really sensitive to very fine detail. This means that CaseLabs probably has incredibly stringent acceptance requirements that a lot of shops aren't going to be particularly adroi...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:09 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

That 80% number has so many unspoken moving parts that it cannot ever be verified. A reasonable assumption is that they legitimately had difficulty sourcing one or a few things in the past few months and could only obtain them with a mark-up of 80% They then wrote a statement that heavily implies t...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:59 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

I have no idea what a case manufacturer would need. CaseLabs said their prices went up by 80 %. I have no reason to disbelieve this. A certain user says that isn't correct, but isn't very helpful in finding out the price of whatever CaseLabs would need. You've said this, almost verbatim, three time...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:43 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

Next time, post the damn chart instead of saying "google". And we can avoid the mess all the way at its root. I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong. But you need to be willing to admit your faults in this. You were not clear about what I should be looking up and I'm quite annoyed at that fa...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:24 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

And this is why I don't bother to "google". Because its your freaking argument and it is utterly insane for YOU to expect ME to properly support YOUR ARGUMENT. Come up with your own damn citations. I'm sorry I tried to help you. No, it's yours. You are presenting the aluminum futures from...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:21 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

This isn't a legitimate response and you need to seriously stop doing this. It isn't helpful. No, what isn't legitimate is you coming into here and starting off with the tariff on Aluminum is 25%. It isn't. I said that repeatedly in the thread, which you clearly didn't read. Instead of just accepti...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:11 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

I know a little bit about the subject. The answer is not "google" but the Aluminum Futures market. And there's lots of different kinds of aluminum. wat I dunno if this chart is inflation adjusted btw. But it does appear to be flat for this year, but up sharply over the past 3 years. As I'...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:57 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

I don't buy aluminium by the tonne, or even by the ounce. I don't either, but I know a guy who regularly does. And I know about this thing called "google" that I've been desperately trying to share with you. I guess you'd rather wallow in ignorance and pretend that this sort of thing is j...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:21 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

Apparently, my mistake was that "raw materials" is a more precise term than I'm used to. It really isn't, you are just completely unfamiliar with the subject you were opining upon. I'm a computer programmer by trade, I'm not in manufacturing. Guess what? I'm both. So yeah, I'll make mista...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:02 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

Maybe, if you want someone to "google the price of aluminum", you should tell them "google the price of aluminum" the first time. Maybe if you want to start making claims you ought to check if they are even remotely accurate first? This isn't about my "communication skills&...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:55 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

BTW: Google amplifies your bias. Google retains your gmail history, youtube history, and returns results that best matches your opinion. If you want to suggest a search engine, at least use an anonymous one like DuckDuckGo. Because then we get the same results. Political topics always return differ...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:53 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

Oh, well, there you go. Caselabs should just double all their prices. That will solve everything. You've answered your own question. Not what I said. Go away. Except not really. Cheap chinese-made cases still cost the same. Custom cases like what CaseLab produced are already practically a Veblen go...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:48 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

Okay, let me provide a citation. The Caselabs letter. Literally does not say raw materials. Their material costs have rose dramatically. How is this not about raw material costs? Aluminum, as an unfinished feedstock material, costly literally less now that it did immediately before the tariffs were...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:40 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

They manufacture in Taiwan, and are therefore not subject to these tariffs. Only manufacturers inside the USA are subject to these costs. I am talking about another example of massive supply disruption, which were the floods in Thailand in 2011. The prices of harddrives easily doubled overnight. Th...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:35 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

dragontamer5788 wrote:
Raw materials are up


Actually, no (AND THIS IS NOT ABOUT "RAW MATERIALS")

Google.

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You can inappropriately inject whatever political advocacy you like, but you don't get your own facts.
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:32 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

I don't know where you get the 10 % increase. The actual law? They specifically say the increase was 80 %. The tariff was 10 %, but if everybody knows that the price of aluminium will increase by 10 % in a month, then everyone will try to buy all the aluminium they can get as quickly as possible, l...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:12 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

Tariffs on the raw materials is how you destroy manufacturing. My point still stands. Posts like this are how you destroy the thread. Thanks. --- We're not even talking about CaseLabs anymore, or computer cases, or even general hardware. This is straight political agitation, to the point where you ...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:07 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

Cases are made out of aluminum, which are part of the 25% tariff. Aluminum is 10% I've said this repeatedly. The rest of your post is just straight R & P. EDIT: And your post, right after mine, is an amazing illustration of my claim : People would rather just opine about the politics of free tr...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:01 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

I mean, let's be clear: I'm writing here because someone started getting political with the "national security threat" thing. I simply explained how that isn't necessarily outrageous. I guess that's a problem, you know, overt political agitation is fine, but counter-explanation without spe...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:55 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

First, not all Americans are happy about the tariffs and the resulting trade war. Your wording suggested the feeling was universal; it is not. No it didn't. And prior to your post, I responded to uni-mitation explaining what I was suggesting. And, of course, I was responding obliquely to someone ma...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:33 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

So what? Maybe they initially thought they could ride it out. Maybe it pushed them to the point where they were circling the drain, and it took a few months for reality to set in and convince them to throw in the towel. We just don't know. On the contrary, we *DO* know: they explicitly said that fu...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:17 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

The shortage was caused by mass buying while prices were lower before the tariffs were put into effect. Of course this increased demand also raised prices somewhat. Canadian producers made some tidy profits for a couple of months. Right, but they went into effect two and half months ago, and they w...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:20 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

1- I was not only referring to the Petition, but the subsequent bankruptcy schedules that are also filed under perjury. That may be useful public information. 2- These schedules are very important to the proceeding. These are reviewed by the case trustee, and the creditors. If they are improperly f...
by Glorious
Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:11 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

I think you're reading that wrong. They say that prices have increased by 80%, partly because of the tariffs, and partly because of associated shortages. Again, the tariff is 25% for steel and 10% for aluminum. Shortages exist because of price ceilings, not price floors. etc... I'm not sure what yo...
by Glorious
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:07 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down
Replies: 113
Views: 2618

Re: CaseLabs Bankrupt and Forced to Close Down

Thank you for the effort. Sometimes it is hard to find the info. Have you ever read a bankruptcy petition? It is not going to tell you what you are interested in, AT ALL. If you want to see who counter-signed against perjury, a bunch of administrative checkboxes, a list of their creditors contact i...