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by chuckula
Wed May 09, 2018 3:17 pm
Forum: System Builders Anonymous
Topic: New futureproof C2Q rig: Please advise!
Replies: 61
Views: 5385

Re: New futureproof C2Q rig: Please advise!

End User wrote:
Klopsik206 wrote:
It says a lot about maturity (stagnation?) of PC industry IMHO.

A laptop with a lowly i5-8250U has more than double the CPU power of your C2Q rig.


That's nothing. Apple's 2020 ARM Miracle chip has more than double the CPU power of Icelake!
by chuckula
Mon May 07, 2018 1:51 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: The CPU-Z Benchmark Gallery
Replies: 16
Views: 1145

Re: The CPU-Z Benchmark Gallery

What algorithm does the benchmark use, and what instruction set is used ? The new benchmark computes a 2-dimensional noise function, that could typically be used in a game to generate a procedural map. The code is written in C++, and compiled with Visual C++ 2008. No special instruction set is used...
by chuckula
Mon May 07, 2018 1:12 pm
Forum: System Builders Anonymous
Topic: New futureproof C2Q rig: Please advise!
Replies: 61
Views: 5385

Re: New futureproof C2Q rig: Please advise!

I am digging this post from 10 years ago (OMG! Time flys quick!) ...and this C2Q rig I was discussing (now upgraded with SSD, graphics and RAM) is still my primary PC!!! :o It is still more than adaqute for anything I throw at it. It is event fine with moderate gaming (yeah, I don't game much anymo...
by chuckula
Mon May 07, 2018 7:44 am
Forum: System Builders Anonymous
Topic: 'Gipsy Danger' Workstation
Replies: 19
Views: 2045

Re: 'Gipsy Danger' Workstation

I ran the rendering face-off I mentioned in the article real quick this morning... . . . That's almost 5x quicker for Gipsy thanks to her extra cores, higher IPC, and faster memory. Not too shabby. Yes, but who cares about "3D rendering" like anybody does that! We want single-core Geekben...
by chuckula
Sun May 06, 2018 6:46 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: The CPU-Z Benchmark Gallery
Replies: 16
Views: 1145

Re: The CPU-Z Benchmark Gallery

Normally this is the part where I rant about synthetic benchmarks.

But hey... it's not Geekbench!

Good work!
by chuckula
Sat May 05, 2018 11:18 am
Forum: Hot Deals
Topic: Unsure of what to do with Ebay
Replies: 6
Views: 443

Re: Unsure of what to do with Ebay

While this isn't directly related to the hacker who ordered the product, having an eBay password that is different from passwords you use on other sites is always a good idea.
by chuckula
Sat May 05, 2018 11:02 am
Forum: Graphics
Topic: While we're all worshiping AMD because FREEDOM!
Replies: 8
Views: 847

While we're all worshiping AMD because FREEDOM!

So GPP might be out the window and AMD can run around acting all heroic and whatnot. But just remember, they play their own games with the OEMs too: http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-invoking-sales-ban-for-asrock-phantom-gaming-graphics-cards-in-europe.html So while AMD makes self-serving press r...
by chuckula
Fri May 04, 2018 2:01 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Nvidia Partner Program - Illegal?
Replies: 89
Views: 7127

Re: Nvidia Partner Program - Illegal?

derFunkenstein wrote:
chuckula wrote:
Oh man... they canceled it! https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2018/05/04/gpp/

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO WHINE ABOUT NOW!?!?!?

Memory prices.



It's nice to see that there are still some things that can bring us together! [wipes away a tear]
by chuckula
Fri May 04, 2018 1:10 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Nvidia Partner Program - Illegal?
Replies: 89
Views: 7127

Re: Nvidia Partner Program - Illegal?

Oh man... they canceled it! https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2018/05/04/gpp/

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO WHINE ABOUT NOW!?!?!?
by chuckula
Thu May 03, 2018 2:28 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Spectre 2: Electric Boogaloo
Replies: 2
Views: 286

Spectre 2: Electric Boogaloo

OK, so it's really called Spectre NG but that's too close to Windows NT [triggered]. Interestingly enough, these yet-to-be-fully-disclosed issues appear to have been found by Intel itself. So while the initial announcement will talk mostly about Intel products, don't be shocked if they can affect AM...
by chuckula
Wed May 02, 2018 3:35 pm
Forum: System Builders Anonymous
Topic: 'Gipsy Danger' Workstation
Replies: 19
Views: 2045

Re: 'Gipsy Danger' Workstation

Sadly, these images are exempt from Penis Points™ because it's a work computer and not a personal build. I do like all the crazy cooling & fan setup with a -- gasp -- single-slot GPU! Fine for workstation use obviously, but we really want to see a triple-slot monster GPU with a heatsink so heav...
by chuckula
Wed May 02, 2018 12:06 pm
Forum: System Builders Anonymous
Topic: 'Gipsy Danger' Workstation
Replies: 19
Views: 2045

Re: 'Gipsy Danger' Workstation

Well I guess it will get the job done.

Nobody's going to write an Epyc poem about it though.

And watch out in a street fight: That thing looks unARMed.
by chuckula
Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:18 pm
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: Lawsuit alleges Samsung, Micron, and Hynix colluded to drive up DRAM prices
Replies: 11
Views: 1135

Re: Lawsuit alleges Samsung, Micron, and Hynix colluded to drive up DRAM prices

No no no no no no no! Yes. A bit a bit. See, everybody whines when Intel or Nvidia does something "anticompetitive" (read: Something that AMD doesn't like) but that's not really "anti" competition. It's just competition that AMD and its fanboy crowd doesn't like very much. I'm f...
by chuckula
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:00 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Ocean Cove is delayed: CONFIRMED!
Replies: 12
Views: 1068

Re: Ocean Cove is delayed: CONFIRMED!

NTMBK wrote:
Well if we have 8th Gen Covfefe Lake, 9th Gen Whisky Lake, and 10th Gen Icelake... does that mean that Ocean's 11?


That would be perfect. Tiger Lake needs to be canceled or at least not called "11th Gen" to make it work.

I'm not counting the Ocean's 12 & 13 sequels here.
by chuckula
Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:34 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Ocean Cove is delayed: CONFIRMED!
Replies: 12
Views: 1068

Re: Ocean Cove is delayed: CONFIRMED!

I don't think anyone is gonna mistake a CPU for a box of orange juice, but while we're on the topic of stuff $hintel ripped off for this code name, how about Ocean Cove Campground ? Or maybe Ocean Cove Lodge ? I smell a lawsuit! And that's CRANBERRY juice. It goes better with Vodka than orange juic...
by chuckula
Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:14 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Ocean Cove is delayed: CONFIRMED!
Replies: 12
Views: 1068

Ocean Cove is delayed: CONFIRMED!

So some people think they are ahead of the curve by spotting leaked product codenames for unannounced Intel parts. Well, as always I'm keeping one step ahead of the curve. So the fact that Intel ripped off a well-known cranberry juice for a product codename just isn't enough. Instead, for the first ...
by chuckula
Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:46 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Nvidia Partner Program - Illegal?
Replies: 89
Views: 7127

Re: Nvidia Partner Program - Illegal?

I have read this thread and seen what has actually happened and I'll say: 1. The fact that Nvidia plays hardball and that AMD doesn't like it isn't a crime. AMD making self-indulgent press releases about the fact that NVidia got the better of them doesn't mean Nvidia committed a crime. 2. It's prett...
by chuckula
Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:52 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Anand's RyZen+ Review just got revised
Replies: 44
Views: 5451

Re: Anand's RyZen+ Review just got revised

Waco wrote:
Not me personally, but there are many very interested in precision timing of particular things within throwing range. :P



And he's totally NOT talking about simulating detonations of nukes here folks.
Just putting it out there that's NOT what we're dealing with.
by chuckula
Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:36 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Anand's RyZen+ Review just got revised
Replies: 44
Views: 5451

Re: Anand's RyZen+ Review just got revised

Chuck and JBI, thank you for the explanation. If you don't mind me asking, what kinds of applications would such a counter be needed for? Could you not run into race conditions if incorrectly used this? Sorry for the probably silly question, not a programmer. High resolution timers are often used t...
by chuckula
Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:37 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Anand's RyZen+ Review just got revised
Replies: 44
Views: 5451

Re: Anand's RyZen+ Review just got revised

What is really surprising is the difference in impact between AMD and Intel. It might be an interrupt overhead thing, possibly exacerbated by Meltdown mitigation. IIRC HPET generates an interrupt at every "tick". What benefit does HPET have in everyday life? Is it important for servers? S...
by chuckula
Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:33 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Jim Keller got a new gig
Replies: 6
Views: 767

Re: Jim Keller got a new gig

There was a lot Jim could do at AMD... I don't see there being nearly as much for him to do at Intel. For the products that most people on TR care about that's probably true. However, he was working in self-driving cars for the last 2 - 3 years. That's an area that Intel already very heavily invest...
by chuckula
Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:57 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Jim Keller got a new gig
Replies: 6
Views: 767

Re: Jim Keller got a new gig

Bad news for AMD... Oh it's not really that bad. After RyZen launched and we saw what it actually contained, about the only different features were in clustering cores together and requiring separate clusters to talk to each other via the memory controller. I doubt Intel has that much interest in c...
by chuckula
Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:58 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Jim Keller got a new gig
Replies: 6
Views: 767

Jim Keller got a new gig

Well Athlon64 and RyZen designer extraordinaire Jim Keller purportedly has a new gig with a new company.

We'll see how that turns out!
by chuckula
Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:32 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Anand's RyZen+ Review just got revised
Replies: 44
Views: 5451

Re: Anand's RyZen+ Review just got revised

Under Linux I performed this command to check my current clock source [your exact path may vary a little starting at the "clocksource0" directory]: cat /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/current_clocksource the result was: tsc Interestingly enough, in my dmesg history there are s...
by chuckula
Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:40 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Anand's RyZen+ Review just got revised
Replies: 44
Views: 5451

Re: Anand's RyZen+ Review just got revised

The name confused me. High precision. Well I want highly precise events. And that's a wrap, I never thought about it again. I am not ashamed to say I don't know everything about every BIOS tweak on the planet. It's OK, timer source configurations are a giant PITA and what was once the new-shiny tec...
by chuckula
Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:16 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Anand's RyZen+ Review just got revised
Replies: 44
Views: 5451

Anand's RyZen+ Review just got revised

Read all about it here . Basically, due to forcing HPET to be activated as the system timer on all platforms (even when the platform did not default to using HPET) Anand managed to give RyZen a noticeable relative performance boost compared to the Intel systems in its review. That wasn't because RyZ...
by chuckula
Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:51 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: AMD FirePro W5100
Replies: 8
Views: 1029

Re: AMD FirePro W5100

I know nothing about this card, but here's the official link: https://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/workstation/firepro-3d/5100# OK, this was definitely not a high-end part even when it was new. It's only using a 128-bit GDDR5 memory interface and has only 12 GCN compute units [AMD's old Kave...
by chuckula
Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:39 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: AMD FirePro W5100
Replies: 8
Views: 1029

Re: AMD FirePro W5100

What GCN generation are we talking here? Can you give us a rough estimate as to its consumer-grade equivalent?
by chuckula
Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:18 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Pictures of Facebook's ARM Miracle Servers!
Replies: 5
Views: 897

Re: Pictures of Facebook's ARM Miracle Servers!

ludi wrote:
chuckula wrote:
cegras wrote:
Are you OK?

Are you capable of getting a joke?

Sure. You planning to share one? :-D


It was a practical joke that went off flawlessly.

Cegras clicked the link thinking he was going to make yet another disingenuous snarky post... and then got burned and couldn't come up with anything worthwhile.
by chuckula
Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:15 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Pictures of Facebook's ARM Miracle Servers!
Replies: 5
Views: 897

Re: Pictures of Facebook's ARM Miracle Servers!

cegras wrote:
Are you OK?


Are you capable of getting a joke?

Didn't think so.

But tell you what, if Apple's 2020 miracle chip makes a better microserver than a Xeon D, I'll buy you one.
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