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by chuckula
Thu May 25, 2017 9:07 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: It's gonna be EPYC!!!!
Replies: 19
Views: 700

Re: It's gonna be EPYC!!!!

Terrible naming. Even these would have been better: Apollo -- Servers/Workstations Gemeni -- Desktop Mercury -- Mobile With your handle of "Amiga500+" you might be interested to know that Apollo workstations were a big deal back in the 1980s. Here's a famous graphics demo rendered on Apol...
by chuckula
Thu May 25, 2017 7:11 am
Forum: Linux, Unix, and Assorted Madness
Topic: Important Security Update for Samba Admins
Replies: 5
Views: 135

Re: Important Security Update for Samba Admins

Reading the patch code in more detail ( link here ) the bug appears to be that Samba was previously accepting named pipes with the "/" directory character that could apparently be used to go directly to the filesystem instead of being restricted to a pipe IPC mechanism. If the attacker can...
by chuckula
Thu May 25, 2017 7:07 am
Forum: Linux, Unix, and Assorted Madness
Topic: Important Security Update for Samba Admins
Replies: 5
Views: 135

Important Security Update for Samba Admins

Spreading the word about this recently announced bug fix: https://www.samba.org/samba/security/CVE-2017-7494.html From the announcement, Samba versions 4.6.4, 4.5.10 and 4.4.14 have been fixed although if you are stuck on the 3.5/3.6 series there is no word of an update (they are still vulnerable). ...
by chuckula
Wed May 24, 2017 3:15 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Core i9 vs. The Threadripper Preview
Replies: 31
Views: 827

Re: Core i9 vs. The Threadripper Preview

I just don't see how Intel can keep pricing the X/E series stuff as high as they used to anymore. Hoping there are at least small price cuts with the new series of stuff. I really want a 7820X. In an unrealistically optimistic world I'd see Intel adopt price points roughly along these lines: 1. 780...
by chuckula
Wed May 24, 2017 3:01 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Core i9 vs. The Threadripper Preview
Replies: 31
Views: 827

Re: Core i9 vs. The Threadripper Preview

Doctor Venture wrote:
DPete27 wrote:
My advice would be to start your own forum thread about this. It's not related to the topic of this thread.


My apologies for threadjacking.


Don't you mean ThreadRipping!?!?!?!
by chuckula
Wed May 24, 2017 2:25 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Core i9 vs. The Threadripper Preview
Replies: 31
Views: 827

Re: Core i9 vs. The Threadripper Preview

It appears from those Sisoft results that the i9 7900k is clocked natively (not overclocked) at 4 GHz/4.5 GHz boost, which is pretty high for a 10C/20T part. After all, the 6950X is 3 GHz/3.5 GHz boost and also 10C/20T. It'll be interesting if we really get a 10C part with Skylake IPC running at 4 ...
by chuckula
Wed May 24, 2017 12:14 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Core i9 vs. The Threadripper Preview
Replies: 31
Views: 827

Re: Core i9 vs. The Threadripper Preview

I think you guys are taking too much for granted with respect to clock speed, I think it's naive to think that "Threadripper" will be clocked the same at the current Ryzens, Intel doesn't clock their high core count cpu's the same as their quad cores and they arguably have a superior manu...
by chuckula
Wed May 24, 2017 11:09 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Core i9 vs. The Threadripper Preview
Replies: 31
Views: 827

Re: Core i9 vs. The Threadripper Preview

Those numbers can't be for a 12C/24T "Threadripper" cpu, they are barely any faster than the results for the 1800X and the i9 is almost 3 times faster. Nonsense it's exactly what I'd expect for a benchmark that scales with core counts and clockspeeds to within a negligible margin of error...
by chuckula
Wed May 24, 2017 7:25 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Core i9 vs. The Threadripper Preview
Replies: 31
Views: 827

Core i9 vs. The Threadripper Preview

While the upcoming Core i9 and The Threadripper still aren't out & about yet there are a few small leaks beginning to pop up here and there. The well-known SiSoft Sandra benchmark suite includes public rankings of results that get submitted to its website. TR has been known to use Sandra for mem...
by chuckula
Mon May 22, 2017 9:47 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: End of the line for my self-hosted web server
Replies: 19
Views: 976

Re: End of the line for my self-hosted web server

I predict this webserver will Ryze again and ThreadRip its way into destiny!
by chuckula
Fri May 19, 2017 2:46 pm
Forum: General Software
Topic: Why No longer pirate, from an ex-pirate.
Replies: 20
Views: 538

Re: Why No longer pirate, from an ex-pirate.

I gave up piracy after they started sending the Navy SEALS after us.

That container ship full of knockoff handbags was just NOT WORTH IT.
by chuckula
Fri May 19, 2017 2:16 pm
Forum: Linux, Unix, and Assorted Madness
Topic: Good News Bad News on AMD's RyZen compiler
Replies: 3
Views: 423

Good News Bad News on AMD's RyZen compiler

AMD issued an extension to LLVM that specifically targets RyZen and purportedly optimizes for it. Here's a story about the compiler: https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-AOCC-1.0-Released It's free as in not costing coin but it's not generally considered an open source project (ev...
by chuckula
Thu May 18, 2017 7:04 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: R.I.P. Chris Cornell (SoundGarden/AudioSlave)
Replies: 12
Views: 411

R.I.P. Chris Cornell (SoundGarden/AudioSlave)

Very sad to hear that Chris Cornell has passed away: http://variety.com/2017/music/news/chri ... 202432798/

His music, SoundGarden in particular, was absolutely huge when I was a teenager ranking right up there with Nirvana.
by chuckula
Wed May 17, 2017 12:54 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Intel Licensing AMD GPU Tech
Replies: 63
Views: 5094

Re: Intel Licensing AMD GPU Tech

https://www.thestreet.com/story/14137922/1/amd-stock-climbs-on-intel-licensing-agreement.html God it feels so good to be right. I will now laugh like a 12 year old child. Since when do we take Fudzilla as a definitive source? Not that the deal absolutely doesn't exist, but it's not exactly confirme...
by chuckula
Wed May 17, 2017 12:04 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Intel Licensing AMD GPU Tech
Replies: 63
Views: 5094

Re: Intel Licensing AMD GPU Tech

jihadjoe wrote:
Jen Hsun Huang not gonna sell unless he can run Intel as well.


It might not hurt Intel to have somebody with a little bit of charisma running things. Their last few CEOs have been able to make money, but they never get anybody excited.
by chuckula
Wed May 17, 2017 10:11 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: It's gonna be EPYC!!!!
Replies: 19
Views: 700

Re: It's gonna be EPYC!!!!

When it comes to Threadripper I can't decide if we should always put a "the" in front of it. It's kind of like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles where sometimes it's "the Shredder" and other times it's just "Shredder". I'm going to go with THE Threadripper and then make an a...
by chuckula
Tue May 16, 2017 7:01 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Intel Licensing AMD GPU Tech
Replies: 63
Views: 5094

Re: Intel Licensing AMD GPU Tech

God it feels so good to be right. I will now laugh like a 12 year old child. Dude, calm down. That article only reinforces what everyone was telling you about how this was merely about patents: Glorious is right. Intel doesn't want to get sued for making its own IGPs. They had a prior license from ...
by chuckula
Tue May 16, 2017 3:44 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: It's gonna be EPYC!!!!
Replies: 19
Views: 700

It's gonna be EPYC!!!!

Yep, AMD just said that the product name for Naples is "Epyc".

One joke per post please!
by chuckula
Tue May 16, 2017 11:45 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Core i9s and Kaby Lake X
Replies: 4
Views: 263

Re: Core i9s and Kaby Lake X

E was always a codename designation, never a product designation. E was for HEDT markets, EP for 2 socket servers, and EX for 4 socket servers. K and X designations were always product suffixes, e.g. 7700k, 6950x. So where does the 7740K sit? Is it a Kaby Lake X processor? The original story that y...
by chuckula
Tue May 16, 2017 8:08 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: 1700 Benchmark Requests Anyone?
Replies: 12
Views: 742

Re: 1700 Benchmark Requests Anyone?

If you can put Linux on the system then I recommend the Phoronix Test Suite for automated benchmarking: https://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/

There are a whole bunch of benchmarks in the suite that you can run individually to test a wide range of applications.
by chuckula
Mon May 15, 2017 3:50 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Looks like RyZen got caught cheating on benchmarks
Replies: 64
Views: 3255

Re: Looks like RyZen got caught cheating on benchmarks

If AMD went the VISC optimization path, it could cache the optimized code path as it generates the code dynamically to access that later. The result would be some drive controlled directory that balloons in size as more code is ran. Ah good old VISC. Incidentally, the company behind VISC is now who...
by chuckula
Thu May 11, 2017 9:50 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Kittson released!
Replies: 24
Views: 853

Re: Kittson released!

Is IA-64 still supported by Linux and the BSDs? According to the arch directory in the source tree, it is supported by Linux at least (no clue about BSD flavors, they may be more picky). Believe it or not, IA-64 is relatively widespread compared to some of the wacky architectures that they at least...
by chuckula
Thu May 11, 2017 1:11 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Kittson released!
Replies: 24
Views: 853

Re: Kittson released!

I wish to register a complaint about this microarchitecture I bought not half an hour ago from this very boutique.

What's wrong with it?

I'll tell you what's wrong: It's dead.
by chuckula
Fri May 05, 2017 8:55 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Xeon Gold & Platinum Officially Confirmed
Replies: 21
Views: 3344

Re: Xeon Gold & Platinum Officially Confirmed

Going on the heels of the relatively content-free press dump about the new Xeon parts from May 4, here's a twitter post showing a highly detailed CPUID dump for the new Xeon 6154 18-core model . A few interestly bits: 1. L1 cache sizes appear to be unchanged from existing Xeons at 32KB each for inst...
by chuckula
Fri May 05, 2017 8:47 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Xbitlabs completely closed a few months ago
Replies: 21
Views: 1491

Re: Xbitlabs completely closed a few months ago

Too bad. They weren't my #1 site but they seemed to do a decent job of writing hardware reviews.
by chuckula
Wed May 03, 2017 3:47 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Looks like RyZen got caught cheating on benchmarks
Replies: 64
Views: 3255

Re: Looks like RyZen got caught cheating on benchmarks

Your own comment from that TR post: Well the CPU-Z benchmark was pretty much worthless before this update and if it's only using 16 year old SSE2 instructions from 2001 and couldn't even be bothered to use 6 year old AVX instructions from 2011, then it's at least consistently worthless. Yes, and I'...
by chuckula
Wed May 03, 2017 3:12 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Looks like RyZen got caught cheating on benchmarks
Replies: 64
Views: 3255

Re: Looks like RyZen got caught cheating on benchmarks

Come on chuck. This one is a bit too thin to call it "caught cheating." I'm just applying the same standards to AMD that regularly get applied to AMD's competitors around here. If AMD is back to being some type of top-dog in the CPU/GPU world then they'll have to deal with the fallout of ...
by chuckula
Wed May 03, 2017 2:59 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Looks like RyZen got caught cheating on benchmarks
Replies: 64
Views: 3255

Re: Looks like RyZen got caught cheating on benchmarks

Disclaimer: personal, non-editor opinion. For the sake of argument, let's assume there's some nefarious plot here. Why the heck would AMD bother working out a way to cheat at... CPU-Z ? Talk about not shooting for the moon. A bit of code that works in a certain way with Ryzen happened to be in CPU-...
by chuckula
Wed May 03, 2017 2:38 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Looks like RyZen got caught cheating on benchmarks
Replies: 64
Views: 3255

Re: Looks like RyZen got caught cheating on benchmarks

I find it highly unlikely that AMD took their sparse engineering dollars to modify silicon to cheat their way in an obscure benchmark that no one really uses. I think if they had done that they would have touted those numbers or intentionally leaked them prior to release. They didn't modify their s...
by chuckula
Wed May 03, 2017 2:16 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Looks like RyZen got caught cheating on benchmarks
Replies: 64
Views: 3255

Looks like RyZen got caught cheating on benchmarks

TR says it all right here. Now admittedly CPU-Z was never a proper benchmarking tool, which is why TR wisely avoided using it, but that's still no excuse for "optimizing" your way to success in microbenchmarks by intentionally ignoring the program code. Especially when those optimizations ...
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