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by Waco
Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:40 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: CUI (Clicking Under the Influence)
Replies: 16
Views: 408

Re: CUI (Clicking Under the Influence)

More than a few random purchases while imbibing. I kinda have a mental limit of $80 or so for these types of purchases...if it's more than that it goes on a wish list or into the cart without buying. My last similar purchase was an 8" Kindle for the wife. I kinda wish I'd bought one for myself,...
by Waco
Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:13 pm
Forum: Storage
Topic: Errors on new SSD
Replies: 6
Views: 495

Re: Errors on new SSD

There are bad drives in every bunch.

I have a small pile of Intel DC-S3700 drives to send to destruction at work...10% failure rate so far in a very light workload. Supposedly the new firmware is going to be better.
by Waco
Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:43 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: What are you drinking RIGHT NOW?
Replies: 3880
Views: 617640

Re: What are you drinking RIGHT NOW?

A nice glass of 2014 "Bonus Level" from Woot Cellars (http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=2491318).

Aged for a year before opening the first bottle...and damn, it's good stuff, especially given the low cost when I nabbed it.
by Waco
Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:50 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Skylake X: Bye Bye Rings, Hello Mesh
Replies: 17
Views: 988

Re: Skylake X: Bye Bye Rings, Hello Mesh

The more we advance, the more nuanced process layout and memory access have to be. That said, it probably won't make much difference for consumers. Intel could easily "tile" 4+ cores into a node without much engineering if they've already done 2. They generally aren't so shortsighted to de...
by Waco
Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:45 am
Forum: Graphics
Topic: 5 Bad GPUs?
Replies: 6
Views: 548

Re: 5 Bad GPUs?

I've had incredible luck with refurbs in general. HDDs, RAID/SAS controllers, TVs, monitors, CPUs, GPUs, DRAM. Generally anything actually defective (even after refurb) has enough warranty to exchange for a good item. The only thing I tend to stray away from is anything Flash-based. Half of the driv...
by Waco
Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:06 pm
Forum: Storage
Topic: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*
Replies: 71
Views: 2375

Re: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*

I don't mind crap TLC drives if the price is right, but it sure as hell isn't. Yeah, the prices are higher than older MLC drives because of this obnoxious worldwide flash shortage... SSDs still have definable performance tiers, but they're all of $5 apart. It's worse than that though, due to the sh...
by Waco
Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:17 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: Quiet Keyboard & Mouse
Replies: 8
Views: 374

Re: Quiet Keyboard & Mouse

Honestly, the Mac chiclet keyboards are pretty damn quiet and are better than many membrane-style keyboards in terms of feel.

I have a bunch of clicky keyboards (MX brown, green, etc) though, so I'm a bad judge of what constitutes "quiet".
by Waco
Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:20 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: Is There a TR Guide to NAS Building?
Replies: 10
Views: 642

Re: Is There a TR Guide to NAS Building?

I am going to echo a number of comments made elsewhere in this thread. - Consolidating all of your files into a single storage server/system is not smart. Having a NAS is no excuse to not have backups. - Non-ECC memory can be used with ZFS; I have a number of those systems working flawlessly for 5+...
by Waco
Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:15 am
Forum: Storage
Topic: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*
Replies: 71
Views: 2375

Re: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*

TLDR: I don't understand how new (mostly planar TLC!) drives sell at all when there are both good easily available alternatives and older versions both competing with the new crap. I don't mind crap TLC drives if the price is right, but it sure as hell isn't. Yeah, the prices are higher than older ...
by Waco
Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:14 am
Forum: Storage
Topic: 3.5" HDD enclosure AC/DC adapters make me uneasy
Replies: 11
Views: 491

Re: 3.5" HDD enclosure AC/DC adapters make me uneasy

They're all using pretty much the same 12v adapters. Get one rated for at least the amperage of the old one (more won't hurt) and keep using your enclosure. If this is online storage, you should invest in a halfway decent surge protector or UPS. If it's backups, it's only vulnerable when it's plugge...
by Waco
Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:42 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: Is There a TR Guide to NAS Building?
Replies: 10
Views: 642

Re: Is There a TR Guide to NAS Building?

You don't *need* ECC to run ZFS any more than you *need* ECC to run any other file system (a bad bit flip can potentially ruin anyone's day, ZFS is no more vulnerable to that than any other but can repair a lot of that online). No online storage should ever be your only copy of something you care ab...
by Waco
Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:44 pm
Forum: Networking
Topic: 2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T routers available when?
Replies: 43
Views: 2071

Re: 2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T routers available when?

SuperSpy wrote:
I'd shove a 2-port 10Gb card in a PC with a high-mhz CPU and run pfSense on it before trying the early adopter lottery on consumer routers.

We're a long way from needing 10 Gb routing, though.
by Waco
Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:43 pm
Forum: Networking
Topic: 2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T routers available when?
Replies: 43
Views: 2071

Re: 2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T routers available when?

Yeah, IPv6 is a whole new wrench in the works. :)
by Waco
Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:15 pm
Forum: Networking
Topic: 2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T routers available when?
Replies: 43
Views: 2071

Re: 2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T routers available when?

You only have to route if you're leaving the subnet (going to the Internet) - dumb switches route between machines on the same subnet without having to hit the router. I knew there was a simple answer my aging brain just hadn't figured out. Like I said, I don't grok the OSI model, so I was having p...
by Waco
Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:10 pm
Forum: Storage
Topic: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*
Replies: 71
Views: 2375

Re: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*

USB 2.0 is 480 Mb/s, or about 60MB/s. Are you going to get that in real world usage? Probably not, but I have external hard drives that are faster than 25MB/s on USB 2.0 for writes, let alone reads. You would think flash drives would be able to max it out as well, but they use cheap controllers and...
by Waco
Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:37 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3181

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

just brew it! wrote:
whm1974 wrote:
Waco wrote:
Cray will happily sell you an XC rack or few hundred racks if you want it - it just takes a lot of coin. :)

And just for what will he use it for?

Doesn't matter. If he can buy it, it's a consumer product! :D

Perzactly. :lol:
by Waco
Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:08 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3181

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

LoneWolf15 wrote:

A Core i9 or an AMD Threadripper will still be a consumer CPU because I can purchase it, as opposed to a Cray XC supercomputer, which I cannot.

Cray will happily sell you an XC rack or few hundred racks if you want it - it just takes a lot of coin. :)
by Waco
Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:23 pm
Forum: Storage
Topic: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*
Replies: 71
Views: 2375

Re: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*

I was burned by new flash drives too. Like you, I was thinking that anything would be faster than the drive I had been using for over 4 years. SanDisk seems to be one of the worst offenders IMO. I've had a really bad run with reliability as well. It have to buy "throw away" drives for wor...
by Waco
Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:07 pm
Forum: Storage
Topic: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*
Replies: 71
Views: 2375

Re: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*

Those Cruzer Edge drives aren't advertised as being fast. They're not for regular usage. They're either to keep a small archive of files, or "Hey, I need a flash drive real quick to get some drivers on a computer that can't access the Internet yet." I have several of those, but 16GB. I go...
by Waco
Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:53 pm
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: PCIe 4.0 ALMOST Ready
Replies: 22
Views: 826

Re: PCIe 4.0 ALMOST Ready

whm1974 wrote:
OK you convinced me, it can be useful. Now what about DDR5?

I'm a bad person to ask. The workloads that tend to run on my stuff are almost entirely memory-bandwidth bound for much of the compute cycle. :)
by Waco
Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:52 pm
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: PCIe 4.0 ALMOST Ready
Replies: 22
Views: 826

Re: PCIe 4.0 ALMOST Ready

At this point I'm not sure if PCIe v4 could be useful during the foreseeable future. Although I supposed enough time has passed to update the standard... For consumers? Probably not, but it'll drop the cost of boards if you only need 8 lanes or something for the same bandwidth that 32 gave you befo...
by Waco
Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:51 pm
Forum: Storage
Topic: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*
Replies: 71
Views: 2375

Re: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*

There are quite a few reports of them not holding up as well as other brands when used in dashcams. Granted, that's a fairly stressful use case for flash, but if other vendors can handle it they should be able to as well. There could be something there, but dashcams, like you said, are torture for ...
by Waco
Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:45 pm
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: PCIe 4.0 ALMOST Ready
Replies: 22
Views: 826

Re: PCIe 4.0 ALMOST Ready

At this point I'm not sure if PCIe v4 could be useful during the foreseeable future. Although I supposed enough time has passed to update the standard... For consumers? Probably not, but it'll drop the cost of boards if you only need 8 lanes or something for the same bandwidth that 32 gave you befo...
by Waco
Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:02 am
Forum: Storage
Topic: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*
Replies: 71
Views: 2375

Re: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*

They're still one of the biggest manufacturers, and WD technically owns them. I have lots of their stuff. This just happens to be crappy old product, which is why it's cheap. The flaky 128GB memory card I had wasn't that old. Seemed like crappy new product to me... Things break sometimes. :shrug: I...
by Waco
Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:01 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3181

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

2013 GeForce GTX Titan - GK110 - 1.3 TFlops DP 2013 GeForce GTX 780Ti - GK110 - 0.21 TFlops DP 2014 GeForce GTX Titan Black - GK110 - 1.7 TFlops DP 2014 GeForce GTX Titan Z - 2x GK110 - 2.7 TFlops DP 2015 GeForce GTX Titan X - GM200 - 0.19 TFlops DP 2015 GeForce GTX 980Ti - GM200 - 0.18 TFlops DP 2...
by Waco
Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:30 pm
Forum: Storage
Topic: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*
Replies: 71
Views: 2375

Re: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*

They're still one of the biggest manufacturers, and WD technically owns them. I have lots of their stuff. This just happens to be crappy old product, which is why it's cheap. So which models are the good products then? Generally if no speeds are listed, it's crap. If it's 5+ years old, it's probabl...
by Waco
Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:11 pm
Forum: Storage
Topic: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*
Replies: 71
Views: 2375

Re: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*

They're still one of the biggest manufacturers, and WD technically owns them. I have lots of their stuff.

This just happens to be crappy old product, which is why it's cheap.
by Waco
Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:19 pm
Forum: Overclocking, Tweaking, & Cooling
Topic: I need help planning cooling
Replies: 16
Views: 400

Re: I need help planning cooling

Vhalidictes wrote:
I'm not an expert but you really want to provide negative pressure. Ideally you want twice as much exhaust as intake.

Reverse that thought. You want more *intake* than exhaust to create positive pressure. Negative pressure gets you a dusty case pretty quickly.
by Waco
Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:16 pm
Forum: Storage
Topic: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*
Replies: 71
Views: 2375

Re: SanDisk Cruzer Edge is *horrible*

If you want to try for more performance, format it as EXFAT with large sectors (I think they go up into the megabytes, and if you're storing primarily large files, it can be a huge boost to write speeds). Going from 4K FAT32 sectors to 512KB -> 1MB sectors with EXFAT should be a nice boost and keep ...
by Waco
Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:11 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3181

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

For some people perhaps. :) My 1800X build may fare better than my MacBook but I'm sure it would still encounter price/performance curve criticism. I didn't mean to say it applies to all people, but for many it does. Surely, I have purchased many things that break the curve as well (see my stupid s...
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