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by Lordhawkwind
Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:10 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

So Glorious just point me to Cynan's post I posted above. Cheers.
by Lordhawkwind
Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:06 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

Whatever you want to believe mate. I know the score thank you.
by Lordhawkwind
Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:41 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

Redocbew wrote:
Lordhawkwind wrote:
As Jerry Maquire said SHOW ME THE NUMBER


You are not Jerry Maguire, but you may be Tom Cruise. I could imagine that.


I'm too tall and handsome for Tom Cruise or so the wife tells me. :D
by Lordhawkwind
Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:39 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

Just to show you I haven't made it up. Maybe ask Cynan where he got it from Uhh.... Are you are saying that you get 82% figure because cynan cited the ~18% AMD GPU number from the survey? As I said before, I'm still completely lost, because AMD having 18% doesn't mean Nvidia has 82%, there's anothe...
by Lordhawkwind
Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:27 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

Look at my post above and maybe ask Cynan where it came from and you know as well you quoted it enough times :D :D Well at least we know what you're really like. Does 100 -18% not represent 82%. Has my math gone funny. Strange all the other posts have been deleted isn't it. I see you're both regular...
by Lordhawkwind
Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:04 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

Jerry Maquire said SHOW ME THE NUMBER Is that really too much to ask? Explain to me what exactly Nvidia's 82% of market share really is. You've quoted the Steam survey likes it's a gamers GPU bible so please explain to me how they work out the percentages. Am I speaking in a foreign language? Expla...
by Lordhawkwind
Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:37 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

Perhaps the steam survey is not completely representative of the distribution of GPU manufacturers across gamers Oh so now you're finally agreeing with me. No, he isn't. You're selectively quoting. Go away. I'm still awaiting you or Glorious to provide me with the baseline respondents so we can act...
by Lordhawkwind
Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:08 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

Glorious please enlighten me how many people actually responded to the Steam survey so we can form a baseline? I can't find it anywhere TBH. From an advertising viewpoint if you publish any statistics regarding a product you have to publish the baseline respondents so people can make a reasoned dec...
by Lordhawkwind
Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:00 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

I've had steam for years and never once participated in their survey. It's not at all representative of overall GPU market share and by trying to portray it as so is extremely misleading to say the least. So you'd rather they were no AMD graphics competition and the next 1160 was $800 I'm sure you'...
by Lordhawkwind
Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:47 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

Perhaps the steam survey is not completely representative of the distribution of GPU manufacturers across gamers Oh so now you're finally agreeing with me. I'm still awaiting you or Glorious to provide me with the baseline respondents so we can actually work out what 82% market share actually is. W...
by Lordhawkwind
Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:39 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

Glorious please enlighten me how many people actually responded to the Steam survey so we can form a baseline? I can't find it anywhere TBH. From an advertising viewpoint if you publish any statistics regarding a product you have to publish the baseline respondents so people can make a reasoned deci...
by Lordhawkwind
Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:09 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

So lets let look under the hood at these headline figures of 82% Nvidia and 18% AMD. Let's look at Nvidia's Pascal chips first. The most popular is the 1060 at 6.52%. Next is the 1070 with 3.28%, the 1080 with 1.69% and the 1080ti with 0.56%. Bringing a total for all Pascal cards to 12.05%. Whilst t...
by Lordhawkwind
Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:25 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

EDIT: To be clear, what you are guys are saying is deeply counter-intuitive because there is every reason to think that AMD is bleeding gamer market share. There isn't much of any reason to think the contrary, but that's exactly what you all must be assuming when you discount other evidence that rei...
by Lordhawkwind
Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:02 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

The Steam hardware survey is a different kettle of fish to market share numbers, and while AMD's position in it is sad -- and declining -- on both the CPU and GPU front, AMD GPU at 18.63% is above AMD CPU at 17.72%. You do see that? Yes, and did you see that AMD lost 1.6% in August alone, despite r...
by Lordhawkwind
Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:02 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Vega Meta Analysis
Replies: 130
Views: 5533

Re: Vega Meta Analysis

Mostly, the use of HBM (any version) is completely tied to the current Vega architecture. That means that the use of GDDRwhatever would require the design of a different GPU. Best explanation that I've heard (repeated here, even) is that AMD is simply too poor to spin up multiple big-chip designs, ...
by Lordhawkwind
Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:47 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

1) AMD did a pretty good job with the RX 480. not their fault the mining craze took off. They hedged their bets on HBM 2 and it did not go well. Proven track record, no, but it's not all doom and gloom. For the money they are pretty good if you can over look the higher power. Which brings up point ...
by Lordhawkwind
Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:21 am
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

Whose logic is faulty??? Yours. Your card is a decent price/performance proposition, but is topped out, and AMD is unlikely to improve performance anywhere in the near future. That's AMD's trend. So you're locked in either to the performance level you're at while games continue increasing their per...
by Lordhawkwind
Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:23 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

If you look at the performance deltas between the 1080ti and Vega 64 in DX11 & 1440p it ranges from single digit to 35%. If you look at DX12 the delta narrows to virtually nothing up to 20%. That's a big drop off for the 1080ti in DX12 and that's where gaming is going. Obviously the 1080ti is s...
by Lordhawkwind
Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:45 am
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

If you look at the performance deltas between the 1080ti and Vega 64 in DX11 & 1440p it ranges from single digit to 35%. If you look at DX12 the delta narrows to virtually nothing up to 20%. That's a big drop off for the 1080ti in DX12 and that's where gaming is going. Obviously the 1080ti is st...
by Lordhawkwind
Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:29 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Managed to snag a RX Vega 64: First Impressions
Replies: 6
Views: 810

Re: Managed to snag a RX Vega 64: First Impressions

I'm a Vega 64 owner too, got the Sapphire card for £450 on launch day. Coupled with my 7700K and 144hz freesync it performs very well. I used to have a Sapphire Tri-X Fury pro and Vega is about 25-50% faster depending on the game. So a worthwhile upgrade for me TBH. Needed a 850W PSU to run it but I...
by Lordhawkwind
Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:12 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Vega Meta Analysis
Replies: 130
Views: 5533

Re: Vega Meta Analysis

I'm not a fanboy or apologist but as a Vega 64 AC owner who games at 1440p and with a 144hz freesync monitor the card is pretty awesome. Yes it sucks a lot of power and I had to buy a new top tier 850w PSU (needed it anyway as I overclock my 7700K) but at 1440p it is a very good gaming card. I'm get...
by Lordhawkwind
Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:04 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

Personally as a Vega 64 AC owner the card performs admirably at 1440p with a 144hz freesync monitor and that is where AMD should market it. It won't beat a 1080ti at 4K in a month of Sundays but equaling or maybe beating a 1080 at the price I paid (£450) was a no brainer for me. At 1440p it's betwee...
by Lordhawkwind
Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:04 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

OK so I bit the bullet and paid another £135 for a top quality 850w PSU and I can now say that for 1440p, with a freesync monitor, Vega 64 AC is a great performer. In a like for like comparison with my old Fury Pro it's between 25% to 50% faster depending on the game which is fine by me. I probably ...
by Lordhawkwind
Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:13 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP
Replies: 211
Views: 9045

Re: Goodbye Vega 56 at MSRP

As someone who managed to snag a Vega 64 AC on launch day for just £450 avoid it like the plague. The card and drivers are horrendous and forget the 750w PSU it won't do the business. RTG needs to hang their heads in shame after releasing this garbage. Disappointed doesn't even come close and I only...
by Lordhawkwind
Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:59 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Coffee Lake Not Supported by Intel’s 200-Series Motherboards?
Replies: 20
Views: 3699

Re: Coffee Lake Not Supported by Intel’s 200-Series Motherboards?

Intel are still thinking they've got a monopoly and they can do what they want. They don't seem to realise that their main competitor is going to support Zen for the next three refreshes. I think it just goes to show Intel is like a dinosaur and doesn't realise yet that it's world is about to come c...
by Lordhawkwind
Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:19 am
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Is 60Hz enough for general [non-gaming] computing?
Replies: 33
Views: 4915

Re: Is 60Hz enough for general [non-gaming] computing?

On my gaming PC I have an Acer 27" XF270HU 144hz freesync 1440p monitor and it is simply awesome. In games it's amazing and for general non-gaming use it is also impressive. Next to it I have A BenQ 27" 1440p 60hz monitor hooked up to a 2011 Mac Mini and TBH that's great too. In general yo...
by Lordhawkwind
Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:24 pm
Forum: Apple Sanctuary
Topic: I'm thinking about upgrading my iPad 3 (2011) to an iPad Pro
Replies: 10
Views: 4854

Re: I'm thinking about upgrading my iPad 3 (2011) to an iPad Pro

My wife got the 9.7" 128gb Pro last month as an upgrade from her iPad Air 2 and she says it's the best iPad she's ever owned (she changes every version!). Very fast, four speakers and a great camera and not forgetting the great front camera for face time. I've now got her old iPad Air 2 which i...
by Lordhawkwind
Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:07 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: 6700K good time to buy?
Replies: 24
Views: 5525

Re: 6700K good time to buy?

Don't forget that you have to overclock the 6700K to 4.5ghz whereas the 7700K I own boosts to that automatically. Mine currently runs at 4.7ghz on all 4 cores on air at 30c idle and about 70 under stress (gaming a bit less). I'm not supposed to mention it because some people on Rage3D got annoyed at...
by Lordhawkwind
Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:11 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: i5 with SMT inbound?
Replies: 33
Views: 5826

Re: i5 with SMT inbound?

What's the point of an i7 7740K? A 100mhz speed bump, come on. Virtually all 7700K's will overclock to 4.8Ghz on air and 5Ghz if you're lucky on AIO. My 7700K easily O/C's to 4.9Ghz but on air it's a tad hot running at 90C under stress testing which would probably be low 80's whilst gaming. Dialed i...
by Lordhawkwind
Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:51 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Finally joined the 4.5 GHz Club
Replies: 11
Views: 1038

Re: Finally joined the 4.5 GHz Club

What CPU cooler and case fans are you using? I can overclock my I7 7700K to 4.9 stable but under stress runs at  high 80's low 90's so I dialed it back to 4.5 and all is well at 30C idle and mid 60's under load. I've got a Zalman tower cooler and 3 x 120mm intake and exhaust fans. Seem to do a good ...