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Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:52 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Coffee Lake 6 core, this August with z370 chipsets?
Replies: 29
Views: 788

Re: Coffee Lake 6 core, this August with z370 chipsets?

Yay, competition. Intel would never have bother releasing a 6-core mainstream product without Ryzen since they've been getting away with charging top dollar for their quad cores until now. I wouldn't say that. Intel had a 6 core chip pinned for CannonLake at 10 nm on earlier road maps. Due to diffi...
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Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:41 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Coffee Lake 6 core, this August with z370 chipsets?
Replies: 29
Views: 788

Re: Coffee Lake 6 core, this August with z370 chipsets?

AMD has vastly superior pricing but arrives several months before the Sky Lake-X refresh (which used to go under the name Sky Lake-E). This is a different core design than what has been used by Sky Lake/Kaby Lake to date so there should be some slight IPC improvements with existing code due to chanc...
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Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:55 pm
Forum: Networking
Topic: 2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T routers available when?
Replies: 31
Views: 1139

Re: 2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T routers available when?

My dream is to run almost everything other than my OS on a NAS. I have a ton of netbooks and desktops just lying around - removing all of their local storage would be a godsend. The main issue I'm running into is money - it's not trivial to buy 8 decent drives and I don't currently have a system wi...
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Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:02 pm
Forum: Networking
Topic: 2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T routers available when?
Replies: 31
Views: 1139

Re: 2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T routers available when?

10 Gbit has been coming down in price over the past two years to be feasible for the enthusiast. Several LGA 2011-3 motherboards are coming with 10 Gbit ports on board. Switch prices have also come down in price. However, I do see NBaseT (2.5 Gbit and 5 Gbit) taking off in the consumer and embedded ...
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Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:45 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: VIA Nano lives on
Replies: 11
Views: 853

Re: VIA Nano lives on

The one advantage that these chips will have is that they support AVX/AVX2. That is still a feature that Intel doesn't offer on the low end. I wouldn't expect great AVX performance but it'll at least be there. I would also agree that this development does have some influence from the Chinese who wan...
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Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:14 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Anyone repair anything today?
Replies: 724
Views: 43988

Re: Anyone repair anything today?

Had Christie come out and repair the projector themselves yesterday.

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Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:52 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Anyone repair anything today?
Replies: 724
Views: 43988

Re: Anyone repair anything today?

I got to play around inside of a Christie Boxer 4K30 projector today. Couldn't fix it.
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Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:14 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Damage does Linus..err LTT.
Replies: 14
Views: 1328

Re: Damage does Linus..err LTT.

That reminds me, I need to send an invite for something. I have access to a few new toys I need to show off.
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Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:08 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Xeon Gold & Platinum Officially Confirmed
Replies: 11
Views: 1666

Re: Skylake Xeon: Now in Gold & Platinum

200 Mhz isn't that much power as long as voltage remains constant. At the upper echelons of clock speeds, the extra voltage to get that 200 Mhz would matter. Here voltage isn't cranked up to boost clock speeds. That power consumption is better spent on increasing core count while keeping the entire ...
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Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:31 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Xeon Gold & Platinum Officially Confirmed
Replies: 11
Views: 1666

Re: Skylake Xeon: Now in Gold & Platinum

Not sure if AVX-512 is going to be the big power dictator. Granted AVX does have an impact on clock speeds but not that much for that much power. 256-bit AVX already dominates power use when it's active, and this should be roughly doubling it at the same clocks and core counts. 18 cores at 3.0 GHz ...
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Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:08 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Xeon Gold & Platinum Officially Confirmed
Replies: 11
Views: 1666

Re: Skylake Xeon: Now in Gold & Platinum

So there is an increasingly solid set of rumors about the next generation of Skylake Xeons for workstations that is leaking in various locations including a recent post over in the Anandtech forums. In brief: There's a "Gold" series that goes up to 22 cores (18 cores with the highest cloc...
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Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:42 pm
Forum: Gaming
Topic: Andromeda
Replies: 134
Views: 6772

Re: Andromeda

The other thing I loved about ME is that there is often more than one solution to get things done. Noveria in the first game is a prime example which also impacts the later games in small but noticeable ways. How much of that is in Andromeda? Actually for those who completed the game, how much setup...
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Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:00 pm
Forum: Gaming
Topic: Andromeda
Replies: 134
Views: 6772

Re: Andromeda

.........Miranda mmmm miranda.....I'll be sad if she doesn't make an appearance in Andromeda. But hey I will take another character modeled after Yvonne Strahovski. 8) Miranda never survived in ME3 for me- and apparently there's a lot more to her than I realized. Six or seven times through these ga...
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Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:49 am
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: Can anyone clear up: 5960x with 128GB RAM?
Replies: 28
Views: 1608

Re: Can anyone clear up: 5960x with 128GB RAM?

46-bit address space is certainly not the limit. It amounts to 64 terabytes. Maybe terawords. Or, expressed in a more sinister way, tebibytes. That is indeed the current limit for x86 systems (64 terabytes). SGI (now part of HPE) makes some systems capable of reaching that capacity in a single NUMA...
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Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:37 am
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: Can anyone clear up: 5960x with 128GB RAM?
Replies: 28
Views: 1608

Re: the ark site is actually quite frequently wrong

More likely because 16GB unbuffered DDR4 modules came out after the cpu launch, it has enough hardware bits to address it. For a well confirmed earlier example: socket 1366 desktop models list a maximum of 24GB (6x4) but are widely known to work with 48GB (6x8) unbuffered DDR3. For a counterpoint 1...
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Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:32 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Trailers have gone too far (Alien: Covenant spoilers)
Replies: 17
Views: 1400

Re: Trailers have gone too far (Alien: Covenant spoilers)

I think if Disney took the Aliens franchise, it would die quietly right after. Disney is suited to a lot of genres; edgy, dark horror is not one of them. Go watch The Black Hole (1979) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078869/ and see exactly what Disney's idea of edgy and dark is. Then imagine H.R. Gig...
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Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:42 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: When will Intel retire the Core i architecture
Replies: 39
Views: 2257

Re: When will Intel retire the Core i architecture

(tin foil hat)Well Intel did recently buy Soft Machines, creators of the VISC architecture...(/tin foil hat) I see that as more of a science project, with an uncertain payoff sometime in the future. My guess is that it'll effectively be Itanium Reloaded, i.e. a niche architecture that will have tro...
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Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:35 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: When will Intel retire the Core i architecture
Replies: 39
Views: 2257

Re: When will Intel retire the Core i architecture

Reality is that Intel has been researching methods of improving instruction per clock techniques for awhile. They reportedly have a list of minor things that can be done to improve performance on the Core i architecture but will not implement due to it increasing power consumption disproportionately...
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Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:07 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: How long before Intel trounces AMD again?
Replies: 130
Views: 6136

Re: How long before Intel trounces AMD again?

Possibly, though I don't know if that fits with AMD's long term plan. They want workloads with big floating point vectors to be run on the GPU, and are planning massive server-scale APUs for the HPC market. Keeping great performance for 128-bit vectors and integer code, while maintaining compatibil...
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Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:59 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Intel is up to their dirty tricks.. as usual..
Replies: 78
Views: 4807

Re: Intel is up to their dirty tricks.. as usual..

Intel compilers no long checks for 'Genuine Intel' string in processor identification before using the optimal ISA path. Not true: https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/optimization-notice#opt-en https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2010/08/ftc-settles-charges-anticompetitive-conduct-...
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Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:42 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Intel is up to their dirty tricks.. as usual..
Replies: 78
Views: 4807

Re: Intel is up to their dirty tricks.. as usual..

I think, even if AMD sold every chip they made during the time their products were in high demand, it doesn't excuse Intel from shady practices. And as someone pointed out, Intel uses their compilers to limit AMD performance as well. That's kind of like a secret that everyone knows. Given their she...
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Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:35 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: How long before Intel trounces AMD again?
Replies: 130
Views: 6136

Re: How long before Intel trounces AMD again?

I'm more inclined to believe a majority of performance improvements by design have been wrung out of x86 CPU's. AMD/Intel will be on fairly equal footing going forward with Intel having the edge due to their engineering and fabrication prowess. No, Intel is admittedly sitting on some ideas for impr...
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Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:43 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: How long before Intel trounces AMD again?
Replies: 130
Views: 6136

Re: How long before Intel trounces AMD again?

I'm more inclined to believe a majority of performance improvements by design have been wrung out of x86 CPU's. AMD/Intel will be on fairly equal footing going forward with Intel having the edge due to their engineering and fabrication prowess. No, Intel is admittedly sitting on some ideas for impr...
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Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:15 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: How long before Intel trounces AMD again?
Replies: 130
Views: 6136

Re: How long before Intel trounces AMD again?

Considering how far behind AMD was and to come back to challenge the champ is commendable work. Granted it wasn't a knock out punch but AMD themselves didn't let that hype go too far. The real challenge is for Intel to keep pace with AMD's roadmap going forward as they indicating IPC increases for t...
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Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:02 am
Forum: Storage
Topic: Ryzen X370 Build - U.2 interface
Replies: 22
Views: 3030

Re: Ryzen X370 Build - U.2 interface

The big advantage of U.2 is in the server space where drives are expected to be hot swap. This is not possible with M.2 mounted on the motherboard. In the consumer space, you can find M.2 to U.2 without much difficulty. I have found a couple of U.2 to M.2 adapters that would permit a M.2 card to fit...
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Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:08 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Ryzen Passmark: Prime and Physics are off, excels at everything else.
Replies: 213
Views: 10901

Re: Ryzen Passmark: Prime and Physics are off, excels at everything else.

...I sure am hoping I can get higher end Intel stuff at a drastically reduced prices later this year. If Intel wanted to compete against Ryzen all it has to do is offer more cores at close prices. It already sells one 10-core chip, and I bet Intel could price it the same as the 1800X and make close...
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Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:45 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Intel is up to their dirty tricks.. as usual..
Replies: 78
Views: 4807

Re: Intel is up to their dirty tricks.. as usual..

Intel's so-called "dirty tricks" were far less effective than the AMD faithful would have you believe. Back when Intel was supposedly making "dirty" deals with Dell that cost Intel money [not AMD, they sold their chips full-price], AMD's own press was all about how fab-constrain...
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Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:26 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Intel is up to their dirty tricks.. as usual..
Replies: 78
Views: 4807

Re: Intel is up to their dirty tricks.. as usual..

Yawn.

The only thing news worthy in that article is that AMD has made some filings that indicated they were wronged by Intel in the past. It is a basic legal tactic to build a case if Intel does it again.
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Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:43 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: A question about PCI-E
Replies: 20
Views: 2927

Re: A question about PCI-E

SATA takes PCIe bandwidth You sure about that? Most chipset diagrams have SATA ports as separate lines from the PCIe lanes... Intel over the past few years have offered flexible IO allowing for configurations to change based upon the motherboard. Thus a Flexible IO port on the chipset would be eith...
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Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:22 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: A question about PCI-E
Replies: 20
Views: 2927

Re: A question about PCI-E

A simple example of this in consumer boards is dividing 16 PCIe lanes into two 8-lane chunks to enable a 2-way Crossfire/SLI setup that uses two 16-lane (physical) sockets in an 8x configuration. However, while maybe in theory the PCIe lanes on the controller can be subdivided into any integer numb...
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