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by Krogoth
Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:43 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Zen 2 Threadripper talk and news (rumors too)
Replies: 43
Views: 1881

Re: Zen 2 Threadripper talk and news (rumors too)

No, it's a NAS. Headless. Regardless, TR3 does use the same IO chip. The wider paths to the chipset are the reason for rewiring the socket. I'm willing to bet after a few months a vendor will figure out how to get Rome working on the older socket (assuming it doesn't work out of the box, just "...
by Krogoth
Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:46 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Privacy Concerns Facebook/Google
Replies: 10
Views: 785

Re: Privacy Concerns Facebook/Google

Yeah, none of this is terribly surprising. But as someone who grew up in the pre-internet age, sometimes I take a step back, look at where we are today, and think to myself, "Holy crap, Skynet is coming... but not because of a military project run amok; it'll be because people can't resist eas...
by Krogoth
Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:27 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Space Thread
Replies: 159
Views: 21065

Re: Space Thread

JustAnEngineer wrote:
Cutting-edge scientific data from a spacecraft launched more than 40 years ago:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... 2-reveals/



RTGs are about to expire though and while we are pushing limits of what DSN can handle.
by Krogoth
Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:02 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: DYMT: Imi's Legacy
Replies: 4678
Views: 201621

Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

just brew it! wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/09/us/omaha-rock-crash-meme-trnd/index.html

Got a chuckle out of me.


It is from people who don't how to corner and/or have too much vehicle to handle.
by Krogoth
Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:46 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Zen 2 Threadripper talk and news (rumors too)
Replies: 43
Views: 1881

Re: Zen 2 Threadripper talk and news (rumors too)

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. I'll note that my day job is HPC storage. I do run a few GB/s of throughput on my NAS in the SSD pool pretty routinely, not that IO even remotely stresses even the 1950X. Encoding and transcoding , however, do. You got a HTPC + NAS box there and that c...
by Krogoth
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:55 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Zen 2 Threadripper talk and news (rumors too)
Replies: 43
Views: 1881

Re: Zen 2 Threadripper talk and news (rumors too)

Unless the NAS is doing heavy-duty I/O throughput or other stuff it isn't going to be taxing the CPU at all especially in a home setting. Modern CPUs are extremely easy on the power under light loads. The node advantage in power consumption doesn't manifest much here. FYI, my personal NAS barely us...
by Krogoth
Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:48 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Zen 2 Threadripper talk and news (rumors too)
Replies: 43
Views: 1881

Re: Zen 2 Threadripper talk and news (rumors too)

Unless you are pulling the CPU hard for other workloads and/or are doing insane I/O throughput. I doubt you'll get much power savings from going to Threadripper 3. Given I have a few Rome servers in my testbeds at work already, I'm pretty confident I'd see a pretty substantial drop in average power...
by Krogoth
Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:57 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Privacy Concerns Facebook/Google
Replies: 10
Views: 785

Re: Privacy Concerns Facebook/Google

Pfft, I prefer the Aquinas protocol.
by Krogoth
Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:40 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Intel Earnings
Replies: 23
Views: 570

Re: Intel Earnings

Intel's halcyon days are gone and probably will never come back. Intel's CPU division is going back to 1980s and early 1990s where it actually had stiff competition. Intel's biggest nemesis isn't AMD, it is ARM and emerging Chinese semiconductor firms.
by Krogoth
Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:20 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Zen 2 Threadripper talk and news (rumors too)
Replies: 43
Views: 1881

Re: Zen 2 Threadripper talk and news (rumors too)

I was looking more at the power savings and IPC improvements versus raw performance. The 24 core Zen 2 is likely about 50% faster than my 1950X and would use substantially less power in normal workloads. Unless you are pulling the CPU hard for other workloads and/or are doing insane I/O throughput....
by Krogoth
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:57 pm
Forum: Gaming
Topic: Blizzcon 2019 (Games Discussion)
Replies: 7
Views: 270

Re: Blizzcon 2019 (Games Discussion)

It is Blizzard is resurrecting more assets and mechanics from the scraped "Titan" project as Overwatch 2. They are trying to rub off some of HoTS and SC2's Co-Op campaigns.
by Krogoth
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:42 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Intel’s McRib
Replies: 5
Views: 235

Re: Intel’s McRib

Yep, it leads to more support then it was nothing more than a prototype for Comet Lake design (Proving the updated hardware mitigations). Just waiting a couple of months you get pretty much the same thing for less $$$$ with an updated platform. It was meant to keep Intel in the spotlight in the ligh...
by Krogoth
Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:47 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Please share your real supernatural stories
Replies: 44
Views: 1354

Re: Please share your real supernatural stories

Waco wrote:
My best real supernatural story was SEGMENTATION FAULT.


See what happens when you try to print NULL? Bad things!


OH NOES! MY DATAS!

I blame the magical gremlins for moving the bits around!
by Krogoth
Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:55 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: STAR WARS TIME! - Spoiler Lock Lifted
Replies: 471
Views: 41872

Re: STAR WARS TIME! - Spoiler Lock Lifted

They'll never completely recoup the cost of acquisition. I'm not to sure about that. Personally I am giddy about the Mandalorian. And the fact that they are resurrecting Clone Wars to give it a proper ending excites the hell out of me. If they ever make a live action Ahsoka show or hell even an ani...
by Krogoth
Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:39 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Cascade Lake-X HEDT to go up against Threadripper 3
Replies: 41
Views: 2070

Re: Cascade Lake-X HEDT to go up against Threadripper 3

Three weeks before the launch of Threadripper 3000 series, Intel has cut the price of Skylake-X processors in half ! :o https://www.techpowerup.com/260408/intel-to-halve-prices-of-7th-and-9th-gen-skylake-x-hedt-processors Classic Intel move here. They did the similar moves back when second generati...
by Krogoth
Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:31 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: STAR WARS TIME! - Spoiler Lock Lifted
Replies: 471
Views: 41872

Re: STAR WARS TIME! - Spoiler Lock Lifted

She's dying Jim.......

Time to put the IP to the pasture. Disney did irrevocable damage to it from a combination of incompetence and laziness. They'll never completely recoup the cost of acquisition.
by Krogoth
Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:32 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Zen 2 Threadripper talk and news (rumors too)
Replies: 43
Views: 1881

Re: Zen 2 Threadripper talk and news (rumors too)

No, Threadripper has more cores, memory bandwidth and I/O connectivity. It makes more sense for professional crowd that has a need for any of those items. It may, however, peel off the users who want ThreadRipper more for e-peen than for practicality. Nah, it is more likely e-peen crowd would opt f...
by Krogoth
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:32 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Zen 2 Threadripper talk and news (rumors too)
Replies: 43
Views: 1881

Re: Zen 2 Threadripper talk and news (rumors too)

The 16-core desktop Ryzen 9 3950X looks good against the 18-core workstation Core i9-10980XE in leaked benchmarks. Is AMD's desktop line stealing thunder from their new Threadripper? https://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-9-3950x-stomps-core-i9-10980xe-3dmark-physics "10-98" = prison brea...
by Krogoth
Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:12 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Ryzen 3xxx or Intel 10th?
Replies: 17
Views: 764

Re: Ryzen 3xxx or Intel 10th?

Intel 10th desktop SKUs are going to be more Skylake derivatives. Comet Lake is going to be Coffee Lake with more bugfixes (hardware-level mitigations) and extra two cores on the die with updated iGPU. The platform is supposedly going to be revamped for more PCIe lanes (via PCH which will likely req...
by Krogoth
Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:00 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Something's different...
Replies: 1374
Views: 49026

Re: Something's different...

http://nolfrevival.tk/ :D Uh, is that legal? As the story goes, what that site is hosting are the standalone conversions of NOLF, NOLF2, and Contract Jack that were supposed to end up on GOG.com. Once the attempt to secure licensing rights fell through due to none of the three nominal owners (Fox, ...
by Krogoth
Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:11 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Something's different...
Replies: 1374
Views: 49026

Re: Something's different...

So, yes, HEDT systems from 10 years ago can run most games at 1080P just fine, although I don't care to argue what exact settings you'd have to use for the newest games (I can't verify most FP{S games as that machine is running Mint right now) A 5870 is roughly as fast as a laptop MX150. It's barel...
by Krogoth
Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:51 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Something's different...
Replies: 1374
Views: 49026

Re: Something's different...

Fifteen years ago, or whenever it was you started banging that drum I bet it was pretty amusing. Basic, no-frills 2D/3D cards are pretty much dead though. You are forced to get mid-tier SKUs that are overkill for the role or overpriced professional-tier SKUs to the annoyance of some HTPC hobbyists ...
by Krogoth
Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:39 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: DYMT: Imi's Legacy
Replies: 4678
Views: 201621

Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

When the Strategic Air Command received the order from SecDef McNamara to install Permissive Action Links (PALs) on the Minuteman fleet to ensure that ICBMs could not be launched without a direct Presidential order, the code on EVERY PAL in every silo was reset to all zeros as soon as the civilian ...
by Krogoth
Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:57 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Something's different...
Replies: 1374
Views: 49026

Re: Something's different...

But GPUs are doomed! Doomed I say! The end is nigh! Discrete gaming GPUs are going start becoming marginalized and gravitate towards the upper echelons of the market throughout the 2020s. That's unless ray-tracing rendering gets adopted en mass in gaming (Part of Nvidia's long-term gambit). iGPUs h...
by Krogoth
Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:46 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Something's different...
Replies: 1374
Views: 49026

Re: Something's different...

Krogoth is still trolling us. 3 to 6 frames per second in a modern game at lowest possible graphics settings on a GeForce 9600GT isn't a playable experience, in my opinion. Been there; done that; then spent the money on an upgrade. 9600GT was pretty trashy back in its heyday though. No shock there.
by Krogoth
Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:59 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Something's different...
Replies: 1374
Views: 49026

Re: Something's different...

A 10 year old GPU is not usable today. Yes, it is ironically enough. Sure it wouldn't get 100FPS+ and handle anything above medium in-game settings at 1080p. It can still do the job. That''ll change once PS5 and Xbox One's successor finally get here. They'll most certainly raise the bar to require ...
by Krogoth
Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:52 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Something's different...
Replies: 1374
Views: 49026

Re: Something's different...

Nothing that's 10 years old is usable today unless all you do is browse the internet. The hyperbole from both of you is killing me. A 10 year old desktop (assuming the HDD and GPU are still original) will be pretty darned painful to use unless you've never known anything better. But with a SSD and ...
by Krogoth
Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:44 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Something's different...
Replies: 1374
Views: 49026

Re: Something's different...

Obvious troll is obvious. No decade-old desktop PC is adequate for modern games. Yes, it is unless you are a die-hard videophile or need an insane framerate a.k.a tiny, but vocal minority. The masses and most current gamers play their content whatever the auto-settings chooses for them. The differe...
by Krogoth
Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:39 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Something's different...
Replies: 1374
Views: 49026

Re: Something's different...

Wrong, it is more like the times have changed. Being a computer hardware enthusiast isn't really that special anymore. All of the exciting stuff is happening on HPC/enterprise side. There's no killer mainstream application that makes desktop system over a decade ago woefully inadequate. You would be...
by Krogoth
Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:46 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Something's different...
Replies: 1374
Views: 49026

Re: Something's different...

System Guide hasn't really changed that much though. Zen2 desktop platforms are attractive options for their price points. It is difficult to recommend Intel counterparts unless you absolutely need single-threaded performance no matter the cost or need AVX512 support. Navi caused a little price disr...
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