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by Concupiscence
Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:34 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Radeon VII Goes to an ELO Concert!
Replies: 19
Views: 465

Re: Radeon VII Goes to an ELO Concert!

I'd like to propose chuckula for "speedy deletion". *gasp* But his unending screeching at AMD and narcissistic injury when he's called on it are such an integral part of the Tech Report experience! No, we'll be hearing about What AMD Did until he dies, and then he'll pay for bots in his l...
by Concupiscence
Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:17 am
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Radeon VII Goes to an ELO Concert!
Replies: 19
Views: 465

Re: Radeon VII Goes to an ELO Concert!

I'd like to propose chuckula for "speedy deletion". *gasp* But his unending screeching at AMD and narcissistic injury when he's called on it are such an integral part of the Tech Report experience! No, we'll be hearing about What AMD Did until he dies, and then he'll pay for bots in his l...
by Concupiscence
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:08 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Something's different...
Replies: 751
Views: 15343

Re: Something's different...

I'll let bygones be bygones. Let's just fix the interface, make introductions, and forge a path ahead. Sound good?
by Concupiscence
Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:41 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Something's different...
Replies: 751
Views: 15343

Re: Something's different...

Holy God, you step away for a little while and then everything goes nutso. What a lousy rollout - my dinky iPhone SE can't even *read* threaded comments on the main page below a certain depth, they get squashed into a one word per line oblivion.Neither reorienting my phone nor requesting a desktop s...
by Concupiscence
Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:36 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series
Replies: 35
Views: 1964

Re: AMD Zen 2: Ryzen 3000 series

edit: It appears the 4+3 phase VRM in my Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 would be adequate for a Ryzen 3900x. It'd be a huge upgrade over the Ryzen 1700 currently installed in it, though it'll definitely be time to put the existing DDR4-2400 in that box out to pasture. I'm not sure whether it's wise to put ...
by Concupiscence
Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:28 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: 16 COARZ.... Not announced by AMD
Replies: 101
Views: 4644

Re: 16 COARZ.... Not announced by AMD

The test don't stress memory bandwidth and I suspect AVX performance isn't that big of a factor. 9980XE will come-on op when memory bandwidth is king and applications that do take full advantage of AVX512. ... and how often does a desktop user bottleneck on memory bandwidth or find themselves using...
by Concupiscence
Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:48 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Intel cancels their entire desktop CPU line-up
Replies: 30
Views: 2826

Re: Intel cancels their entire desktop CPU line-up

Didn't Zen or Zen+ report some crazy numbers in the CPU-Z benchmark too? IIRC there was something weird about caching that artificially inflated the scores? Our very own chuckula got worked up about it here , but it turned out to be a case of Ryzen's scheduler being smart enough to determine how li...
by Concupiscence
Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: AMD Navi / RDNA Topic
Replies: 86
Views: 3894

Re: AMD Navi / RDNA Topic

It turns out that AMD's claim of the Radeon RX 5700 XT being faster than the GeForce RTX 2070 wasn't just specific to the odd super-optimized game title, but a whole selection of games, many of which c ome with GameWorks varnish. It sounds awesome. I can't rationalize upgrading from a Vega 56 to th...
by Concupiscence
Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:29 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: How much VRAM for a casual gamer?
Replies: 10
Views: 848

Re: How much VRAM for a casual gamer?

The cost difference is pretty minimal. RX 580 4GB for $190 - $20 promo code: https://www.newegg.com/asus-radeon-rx-580-dual-rx580-o4g/p/N82E16814126196 RX 580 8GB for $180 but no promo code: https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-580-axrx-580-8gbd5-3dhdv2-oc/p/N82E16814131720 So the difference...
by Concupiscence
Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:45 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Lower than hoped for Cinebench performance from an i9 7940x...
Replies: 23
Views: 1408

Re: Lower than hoped for Cinebench performance from an i9 7940x...

Alright, I may as well conclude this thread and put a bow on it. I went out and acquired a Noctua NF-F12 fan and strapped that onto the be quiet! Dark Rock 4, moving the default SilentWings 3 fan to the other side to push air to the case's vent fan. That definitely helped - Cinebench performance ju...
by Concupiscence
Tue May 28, 2019 9:29 am
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: Mobo/Processor switch?
Replies: 26
Views: 1257

Re: Mobo/Processor switch?

I voted 'no' on account that when you disturb 10yo hardware and try to drop in 6+yo hardware, you're likely to discover just how many things are about to break and/or are mysteriously incompatible on both system configs. Then you end up sandwiched between a rock where the new one doesn't work when ...
by Concupiscence
Thu May 23, 2019 1:38 pm
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: Mobo/Processor switch?
Replies: 26
Views: 1257

Re: Mobo/Processor switch?

At the risk of wandering far afield from OP's request for advice, I'm gonna agree with just brew it! here. Bulldozer was flat awful - outside of its new instruction set support it was reliably slower per-clock than the K10 parts it sought to replace, it ran hot as hell, and had weird bottlenecking a...
by Concupiscence
Thu May 23, 2019 11:16 am
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: Mobo/Processor switch?
Replies: 26
Views: 1257

Re: Mobo/Processor switch?

Sell the Phenom? How much do you think a used 10 year-old ($235 MSRP) AMD CPU goes for these days? About $15 to $20 shipped, if eBay's any indicator. Not big money, but enough to make a dent in acquiring a nicer FM2+ chip. On a related note, it surprises me how much the 8-core Piledriver FX chips (...
by Concupiscence
Thu May 23, 2019 10:30 am
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: Mobo/Processor switch?
Replies: 26
Views: 1257

Re: Mobo/Processor switch?

What's the advantage of waiting for the Phenom II to die? There really isn't one. I feel a little silly for that. I'd swap the A4 in, sell the Phenom with or without its motherboard, put that money toward a solid FM2+ chip, and upgrade it, then sell the A4 too. You'd end up pulling roughly financia...
by Concupiscence
Thu May 23, 2019 10:14 am
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: Mobo/Processor switch?
Replies: 26
Views: 1257

Re: Mobo/Processor switch?

What's the advantage of waiting for the Phenom II to die? There really isn't one. I feel a little silly for that. I'd swap the A4 in, sell the Phenom with or without its motherboard, put that money toward a solid FM2+ chip, and upgrade it, then sell the A4 too. You'd end up pulling roughly financia...
by Concupiscence
Thu May 23, 2019 10:09 am
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: Mobo/Processor switch?
Replies: 26
Views: 1257

Re: Mobo/Processor switch?

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-920-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G-vs-AMD-A4-7300-APU/365vs3186vs2357 LMAO, it's slower than a Phenom II. It's more complicated than that. It's quite a bit better for single-threaded performance, but has half the cores. Thanks for pointing that out though...
by Concupiscence
Tue May 21, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: Visual Haven
Topic: TV show dvd bitrates falling badly...
Replies: 23
Views: 1376

Re: TV show dvd bitrates falling badly...

Usacomp2k3 wrote:
Don't attribute to malice that which can be easily explained by incompetence.


Or penny-pinching, for that matter.
by Concupiscence
Tue May 21, 2019 2:05 pm
Forum: Visual Haven
Topic: TV show dvd bitrates falling badly...
Replies: 23
Views: 1376

Re: TV show dvd bitrates falling badly...

Big Bang Theory - 10 years of coming out on 3 dvds. Year 11... two dvds and a noticeable drop in quality. But they did save money on a dvd. Lucifer Season 3 also dropped down a dvd and dropped quality (3.3Mbps). They are also dropping the 6ch bitrate to 384. My earlier talk still stands. But after ...
by Concupiscence
Tue May 21, 2019 11:43 am
Forum: Visual Haven
Topic: TV show dvd bitrates falling badly...
Replies: 23
Views: 1376

Re: TV show dvd bitrates falling badly...

They still make DVD's? I haven't bought those in at least 5 years. I'm less inclined to think studios are deliberately making crappy releases than just brew it . The market for TV show home video releases is shrinking more aggressively than the market for movies, and the studios just don't care eno...
by Concupiscence
Tue May 21, 2019 11:37 am
Forum: Visual Haven
Topic: Why-1980,90s tv shows(dvd) so faded/fuzzy&awful?
Replies: 22
Views: 1119

Re: Why-1980,90s tv shows(dvd) so faded/fuzzy&awful?

you can't create more detail than what the source media could replicate You're certainly stuck with the absolute dimensions of the frame, but with some of the learning-based AI routines developed in the past few years, you can do exactly that within the frame: interpolate the missing detail based o...
by Concupiscence
Tue May 21, 2019 11:20 am
Forum: Visual Haven
Topic: Why-1980,90s tv shows(dvd) so faded/fuzzy&awful?
Replies: 22
Views: 1119

Re: Why-1980,90s tv shows(dvd) so faded/fuzzy&awful?

On a tangential topic, one of the local TV channels has been doing reruns of Miami Vice (which I now see was actually pretty damn good with excellent production values) and Magnum PI (which... wasn't good). Were these shows originally shot/aired in what appears to be a 1:1 ratio, or is it just the ...
by Concupiscence
Tue May 21, 2019 10:24 am
Forum: Visual Haven
Topic: Why-1980,90s tv shows(dvd) so faded/fuzzy&awful?
Replies: 22
Views: 1119

Re: Why-1980,90s tv shows(dvd) so faded/fuzzy&awful?

I can say that my "Perry Mason" shows from 1955 to mid 60s on dvd from film are wonderfully perfect! They knew what they had and took care of it. Like a lot of prestige '50s TV, Perry Mason was shot on 35mm. That makes the prospects of a quality restoration pretty good if the negatives or...
by Concupiscence
Tue May 21, 2019 9:45 am
Forum: Visual Haven
Topic: Why-1980,90s tv shows(dvd) so faded/fuzzy&awful?
Replies: 22
Views: 1119

Re: Why-1980,90s tv shows(dvd) so faded/fuzzy&awful?

Yeah, unless they went to the trouble of doing a full cleanup and restoration, there will inevitably be degradation of the original analog film or tape. I can say that my "Perry Mason" shows from 1955 to mid 60s on dvd from film are wonderfully perfect! They knew what they had and took ca...
by Concupiscence
Mon May 20, 2019 1:22 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Radeon VII or wait for Navi?
Replies: 58
Views: 2382

Re: Radeon VII or wait for Navi?

The "wait for Navi" counter is high these days It could potentially bring sense back to the market. Having seen AMD in GPU land lately I doubt it'll be all that, but I'm still waiting to see how it is. My 1070 is feeling a little inadequate at 1440p with higher details now o.o so I'd love...
by Concupiscence
Sun May 12, 2019 10:49 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Lower than hoped for Cinebench performance from an i9 7940x...
Replies: 23
Views: 1408

Re: Lower than hoped for Cinebench performance from an i9 7940x...

Alright, I may as well conclude this thread and put a bow on it. I went out and acquired a Noctua NF-F12 fan and strapped that onto the be quiet! Dark Rock 4, moving the default SilentWings 3 fan to the other side to push air to the case's vent fan. That definitely helped - Cinebench performance jum...
by Concupiscence
Fri May 10, 2019 12:35 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Lower than hoped for Cinebench performance from an i9 7940x...
Replies: 23
Views: 1408

Re: Lower than hoped for Cinebench performance from an i9 7940x...

I've loved reading the comments and appreciate all the help. If you can oblige, I do have one more request. Finding a straightforward guide to undervolting LGA 2066 chips hasn't been easy. This shows that it can be done and the results are impressive, but doesn't go into the methodology in a meaning...
by Concupiscence
Thu May 09, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: Windows
Topic: Did you know Win95 could run on 386?
Replies: 55
Views: 2517

Re: Did you know Win95 could run on 386?

I’ve always had a morbid curiosity to try to coax the most modern OS possible into running on a dual-processor Pentium Pro 200 setup with maxed out RAM and some sort of fanagled SSD, and then see how it does. Right after Win7 launched, I was able to get it running on a P2-300 w/ 512MB of RAM. Didn'...
by Concupiscence
Wed May 08, 2019 7:31 am
Forum: Windows
Topic: Did you know Win95 could run on 386?
Replies: 55
Views: 2517

Re: Did you know Win95 could run on 386?

Years ago I found a Digital-branded dual Pentium 90 workstation on a curb. I gave it to a friend who promptly determined the only OS that would run correctly on the motherboard was probably Windows 2000. And so, with 112 MB of scavenged EDO SIMMs, he tried to make a homebrew Shoutcast server. It did...
by Concupiscence
Tue May 07, 2019 12:48 pm
Forum: Windows
Topic: Best windows video player
Replies: 17
Views: 882

Re: Best windows video player

@JBI, any thoughts as to why something as basic as playing video on a computer is so neglected? The quality of a relatively expensive product like Power DVD is laughable, have things like Rokus, Apple TV, and game consoles made the idea of plating video on a computer LIKE A SANE PERSON obsolete? IM...
by Concupiscence
Tue May 07, 2019 9:59 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Lower than hoped for Cinebench performance from an i9 7940x...
Replies: 23
Views: 1408

Re: Lower than hoped for Cinebench performance from an i9 7940x...

Stock speeds? Doesn't seem particularly out of the ballpark given the clock deficit and core deficit to a 1950x. A 7940X at 4.5 GHz all-core can crank out about 8k points, so if you derate linearly to the base clocks, you're pretty spot-on. I wondered if I was overreacting - under sustained x264 en...
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