Right, GPU-calculated motion blur effects -- are calculated based on motion relative to crosshairs... While display motion blur effects occur as you track your real-life eyes on moving objects relative to the plane of the display itself (independently of the virtual game character's intended focal p...
I am interested also....how do the blacks compare to say a good plasma screen, properly adjusted. Surprisingly competitively. A plasma lover from HardForum has given his "stamp of approval" on the Eizo FG2421: Got it today, set it up, and its great overall. The first and only LCD so far i...
Just to clarify; it's 1920x1080 Currently it's available for preorder on Amazon for $555. Which isn't too bad, considering Eizo's existing price for the Foris FS2333 ($400 for 60Hz). Generally: 60Hz - baseline 120Hz - 50% less motion blur than 60Hz strobed - ~80-95% less motion blur than 60Hz. (Ligh...
Let's remember gameplay styles vary from human to human. Some pro players stare religiously only at crosshairs at centre, using peripheral vision to bring stuff into crosshairs. Some people track eyes all over the place. Some people do not. And varies widely from game to game. High speed helicoptor ...
auxy/Chrispy .... Now that we know what the misunderstanding was ( both of you were apparently correct about the crosshairs, but for different reasons ), and understand why that was the case, let's pretend it never happened. I don't want this pretty interesting thread locked. _______________________...
Chrispy_ is correct -- strobing only helps eye tracking. auxy seems correct in this one situation -- only IF you're watching the moving objects, waiting for it to go under the crosshairs. Auxy did apparently say " objects your character is clearly immediately focusing on " which precisely ...
A good option for G-Sync with strobing would be to have a constant, traditional backlight for refresh rates under 85Hz, and to strobe only from 85Hz or higher. It would be nice if strobing could be effective at lower frequencies but I don't think flicker is ever desirable Yep, that's what my diagra...
Eizo just announced their Foris FG2421 monitor: http://www.eizo.com/global/products/foris/fg2421/index.html This is a 240Hz VA panel (120Hz native, double-pass refresh, strobe on 2nd clean refresh). This finally bring great colors, 5000:1 contrast ratio AND an vendor-sanctioned official strobe backl...
Chrispy_, excellent, you speak the same technical language; Although Blur Busters focuses on the simplistic stuff, trying to educate the masses, I could write far more advanced articles, but it's so difficult to explain to people who think this is all display voodoo... :wink: Yeah, agreed that "...
Moving into a less controversal subtopic, as this is a wide benefit: Another interesting thing about G-SYNC is that decouples frame delivery times from frame refreshing length. So it can still benefit fixed-refresh-rate operation. It is now possible to have 60fps@60Hz, but with only 1/144sec of fram...
Since 2D strobing is an nVidia officially sanctioned optional feature of G-SYNC monitors: Even a "slow" 6ms panel exhibits less visible ghosting than the 1-frame blur of sample-and-hold. Just to clarify, both is cumilative. (I assume you meant it that way, but this can be easily misunderst...
Input lag and motion blur mean nothing to me, yet Le Mans in full IPS glory does mean something to me. Hell, in a single-player racing game both actually add to the realism. Depends on the perspective. We'd rather let the human eye add natural motion blur (go human vision limitations), rather than ...
⋅ there are no mass-market IPS displays that are factory >60Hz ⋅ 120hz refresh with sub-8ms BTB and preferably lightboost is uncontested for fast action gaming +1 Even the 120Hz overclocks (QNIX Q2710, Catleap 2B, Overlord X270OC), do not have a motion-blur-reducing strobe backl...
Some happy TN users who switched from IPS. (Even overclocked 120Hz IPS has more motion blur than LightBoost 120Hz). From HardForum Post So I finally got the VG248QE hooked up last night and was able to play around with it for a couple hours. The other monitor that I have is a HP ZR30W which is a 30&...
This is 2013. Do not waste your money on any nasty TN LCD monitors. There are plenty of affordable IPS LCD monitors available. Unfortunately, there are no IPS LCD monitors yet that has LightBoost, a strobe backlight that eliminates motion blur: http://www.blurbusters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/...
Funny. Buckle your seat belt, or otherwise it "Hertz" when you crash. :D Blame Google for keeping old threads as a top search result for certain search queries. Even now, this thread is persistently stubbornly staying on the first page of Google, for common search "120hz from PC to TV...
This information shows up as a top search result (June 11th, 2013) in Google USA, when searching for 120Hz from PC to TV. So I'm bumping this still-visited thread to ADD important new information: There are now many televisions that can accept 120Hz from a computer (in an undocumented way). This is ...
Thanks. Glad you enjoy the LightBoost feature! Do you tell other people during games, about LightBoost giving you a competitive advantage? Just say "google lightboost"
True, colors are important. However, you'd be surprised how important motion blur elimination is to some people. [snip] Examples: -- Skyviper's "SWEET MOTHER OF GOD!" post . Look at how he is dissapointed in TN, until he turns on LightBoost. (IPS user) -- martinje's XL2720T review . He sa...
The challenge here is that it's not the electronics (which have been 'overclocked' in these displays) that determine whether LightBoost is possible, but rather the panel. TN's can refresh pixels very fast, but IPS is technically much slower. Still, that may not even matter; there's no reason that d...
It took all these years, but finally, by accident it seems, we've tripped over ourselves and figured out how to get back certain aspects of CRT goodness. nVidia apparently already knew about this when they developed LightBoost. ( older AnandTech article ) However, it's only a secondary reason to im...
A couple of comments: 1. It seems that this 'mode' is made possible by fast TN's that can refresh each pixel faster than the 8.3ms required for 120Hz refreshes. To that end, it sounds like the backlight is being darkened/disabled for some portion of that 8.3ms, while the pixels transition to new st...
One major deciding factor lately (in HardForum and Overclock.net) is whether you want to use LightBoost motion blur elimination. Google "LightBoost" (single word) for more information about its motion blur elimination benefits, or see this thread . Several people including as TFT Central, ...
(NOTE: Ryu Connor gave me permission to post a LightBoost thread) CRT Fast Motion on LCD / Perfectly-Sharp Pans Guys, if you use a new 120Hz monitor (or are considering one) to play video games a lot (and your eyes were used to a CRT before, and didn't mind it), there's now a way to shatter the LCD ...
150 ms response time is bad, though. Professional competitors can easily have less than a third of that depending on the situation. Have a source on that? It was 146ms, and the doctor in question stated it was "uncanny". I'm kind of a spaz, so I've always figured the two were related. I d...
Remember: - Some people hate LCD due to motion blur - Some people hate CRT due to flicker. You looked up the refresh rates of OLED? It's mind boggling. :D Yes I know. OLED pixels can switch virtually instantaneously (less than a microsecond). However, some facts: Refresh rate is NOT necessarily pro...
OLED or bust people. Do *you* have $85,000? Actually I do but I'm not spending it on an OLED display! - but they'll come, mark my words, they''ll come and the Plasma vs LCD / IPS / TN fights will finally end. Correct, only if this happens: The best OLED monitors should have a switch between sample-...
OLED or bust people. I agree! OLED is a great technology. But it's not done properly for perceived motion blur in all of them. Even an instant 0ms response display can have lots of perceived motion blur -- due to sample-and-hold. For example, the PS Vita OLED screen has more perceived motion blur t...
Supported zero motion blur LCD's: ASUS VG248QE*, BENQ XL2411T*, ASUS VG278H, ASUS VG278HE, BENQ XL2420T, Samsung S27A950D and Acer HN274H. *The best are the 1ms monitors, because of reduced crosstalk between refreshes. Umm, are there any higher-DPI displays that are good for this? 24" 1080p is...
