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by HERETIC
Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:02 pm
Forum: Storage
Topic: How to find the best drives
Replies: 10
Views: 603

Re: How to find the best drives

I used to read the TR System Guides to get info on the state of each industry, especially things like hard drives, where knowing the overall picture of reliability, price, size, etc. is important. That info ceased to exist with the new guide format, and there hasn't been a HDD review in quite some ...
by HERETIC
Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:01 am
Forum: Echo Vale
Topic: Headphone market for 2018: Hot mess
Replies: 76
Views: 2534

Re: Headphone market for 2018: Hot mess

Usacomp2k3 wrote:
My opinion is that it was always about water-reistance and not about space.


Neither are correct.They are just a side bonus.Remember it's apple-
How can we get more money out of the suckers?
Revenue from Beats and apple ear products has probably doubled since.
by HERETIC
Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:40 pm
Forum: Cases and Power Supplies
Topic: Silverstone SF-ST45SF Dead - Discolored 4pin CPU Power
Replies: 8
Views: 698

Re: Silverstone SF-ST45SF Dead - Discolored 4pin CPU Power

This is the third failure of some sort out of Silverstone power supplies. So first off I have to say I don't think I'd trust them anymore. Another failed similar, no boot issue, just nothing. Another started having a rattling fan after about 2 years of useage. They just don't seem up to snuff in th...
by HERETIC
Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:10 pm
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: Why I'm Suspect of RAM Prices
Replies: 49
Views: 2478

Re: Why I'm Suspect of RAM Prices

Prices are based on Supply, Demand & BOM... This seems to be the primary driver. Chip production rates have been relatively stable for a while, be it simple erroneous forecasting or some sinister conspiracy to limit production, but demand is increasing from a mix of smartphones, Sandy/Ivy syste...
by HERETIC
Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:43 am
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: Why I'm Suspect of RAM Prices
Replies: 49
Views: 2478

Re: Why I'm Suspect of RAM Prices

That said, I agree with you that HDD prices seemed to stay artificially high after the factories came back online. Probably took a little while to re-coup their losses from the floods. Then you have Seagate buying Samsung HD division and WD buying Hitachi HD division. More debt's for us(the custome...
by HERETIC
Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:00 am
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: Why I'm Suspect of RAM Prices
Replies: 49
Views: 2478

Re: Why I'm Suspect of RAM Prices

It wasn't that long ago you could get 8GB of DDR3 for sub $30 on sale. Something is most certainly rotten in the state of Denmark China. This is one of those times where I'd love to see some more competition kick in and undercut the hell out of them. I guess the FTC and other foreign "protecti...
by HERETIC
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:43 pm
Forum: Storage
Topic: Challenge: Find HGST's official warranty length :)
Replies: 34
Views: 2344

Re: Challenge: Find HGST's official warranty length :)

I wouldn't trust them for long-term unpowered data retention as far as I could throw them though. Isn't that the downside to NAND in general???? Yeah, but moreso with the 840 EVO. AFAIK it was the last die shrink of planar TLC before everyone went to 3D (and larger cells). I think 840 EVO pushed th...
by HERETIC
Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:07 pm
Forum: Overclocking, Tweaking, & Cooling
Topic: I7 8700 reaching 100C
Replies: 83
Views: 6640

Re: I7 8700 reaching 100C

8700 and a 1080Ti in a HTPC case-without water. YOU DO LIKE A CHALLENGE DON'T YOU. My advice-downclock/undervolt both a LITTLE to match the case/cooling system you have---ENJOY. Another option is to get a larger case.......... All silicon is a lottery-some chips are better than others..................
by HERETIC
Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:38 pm
Forum: Storage
Topic: Challenge: Find HGST's official warranty length :)
Replies: 34
Views: 2344

Re: Challenge: Find HGST's official warranty length :)

SSDs are not exempt from the lottery effect. Just ask anyone who bought one of the dodgy OCZ drives, or a Samsung 840 EVO. It really is true about the lottery thing; my 840 EVOs are still working fine and see daily use. More seriously, pretty much every kind of drive is vulnerable to DOA. If you up...
by HERETIC
Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:20 am
Forum: Overclocking, Tweaking, & Cooling
Topic: I7 8700 reaching 100C
Replies: 83
Views: 6640

Re: I7 8700 reaching 100C

AGAIN- TDP is an approximate of the power wasted by a CPU-converted in to heat. NOT-TOTAL POWER USAGE.................. Umm... other than power used to drive the external interfaces (RAM and PCIe), all of the power consumed by the CPU is converted into heat that needs to be removed by the CPU HSF. ...
by HERETIC
Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:14 am
Forum: Overclocking, Tweaking, & Cooling
Topic: I7 8700 reaching 100C
Replies: 83
Views: 6640

Re: I7 8700 reaching 100C

AGAIN- TDP is an approximate of the power wasted by a CPU-converted in to heat. NOT-TOTAL POWER USAGE.................. Umm... other than power used to drive the external interfaces (RAM and PCIe), all of the power consumed by the CPU is converted into heat that needs to be removed by the CPU HSF. ...
by HERETIC
Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:27 pm
Forum: Overclocking, Tweaking, & Cooling
Topic: I7 8700 reaching 100C
Replies: 83
Views: 6640

Re: I7 8700 reaching 100C

AGAIN- TDP is an approximate of the power wasted by a CPU-converted in to heat. NOT-TOTAL POWER USAGE.................. That voltage reading in CoreTemp is frightening and a CPU killer-hopefully it's reading something wrong. Would certainly explain high power useage. I hope after all this your not t...
by HERETIC
Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:33 pm
Forum: Overclocking, Tweaking, & Cooling
Topic: I7 8700 reaching 100C
Replies: 83
Views: 6640

Re: I7 8700 reaching 100C

Tried to play with vcore voltage again. I change LLC from AUTO to 4, the lowest I can set in the BIOS, change vcore voltage from AUTO to 1.300 and change RAM from 1.350 to 1.20, leave Power limit to default AUTO value. The intel utility test now show max 105W TDP rather than 117 I saw before. I tri...
by HERETIC
Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:22 am
Forum: Windows
Topic: Anyone getting hard resets today?
Replies: 15
Views: 695

Re: Anyone getting hard resets today?

So, has Microsoft only patched Windows 10 release 1709 (on 2018-01-03) ? (Like Apple only patched macOS 10.13, on 2017-12-03, also with partial mitigation only.) I checked Windows Update just now (8.1 Pro 64/i7-4790K) and have no available updates. Have KB4056894 sitting in windows updates-W7/i3-53...
by HERETIC
Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:53 am
Forum: Storage
Topic: Windows loves this folder more than a mama bear loves its cubs
Replies: 15
Views: 1564

Re: Windows loves this folder more than a mama bear loves its cubs

coolflame57 wrote:
I wanted to free up some space on my SSD,


I find clicking on "Clean up system files" after doing a disc cleanup can also save a no of GB................
by HERETIC
Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:50 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: What's your computer's idle power consumption?
Replies: 59
Views: 21218

Re: What's your computer's idle power consumption?

End User wrote:
HERETIC wrote:
Made that comment when saw location as upper Canada.
Thought you were somewhere cold.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Canada


Interesting read............
by HERETIC
Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:32 am
Forum: Overclocking, Tweaking, & Cooling
Topic: I7 8700 reaching 100C
Replies: 83
Views: 6640

Re: I7 8700 reaching 100C

Just read a post by Strangerguy here-
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=81745&p=1372323#p1372323
He's undervolted his 8700K to 1.05V-That would really drop temps........................................
by HERETIC
Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:10 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: What's your computer's idle power consumption?
Replies: 59
Views: 21218

Re: What's your computer's idle power consumption?

Sorry for the necro 5.5 years later, but this is what my heavily undervolted PC in my sig does at the wall plug without monitor and speakers after testing: Idle: 42W Cinebench R15 MT: 122W Skyrim 60 fps capped: 110W Witcher 3 Gsync in Oxenfurt: 165W Even with the monitor etc powered up, I can still...
by HERETIC
Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:49 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: What's your computer's idle power consumption?
Replies: 59
Views: 21218

Re: What's your computer's idle power consumption?

System 1 (PC + dual displays connected to dedicated UPS) Idle: 216W Cinebench R15 MT: 380W Wildlands: 432W System 2 (PC + dual displays connected to dedicated UPS) Idle: 306W Cinebench R15 MT: 396W iRacing: 612W Handy couple of space heaters for that location.................... I'm not complaining...
by HERETIC
Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:17 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: What's your computer's idle power consumption?
Replies: 59
Views: 21218

Re: What's your computer's idle power consumption?

End User wrote:
System 1 (PC + dual displays connected to dedicated UPS)

Idle: 216W
Cinebench R15 MT: 380W
Wildlands: 432W


System 2 (PC + dual displays connected to dedicated UPS)

Idle: 306W
Cinebench R15 MT: 396W
iRacing: 612W


Handy couple of space heaters for that location....................
by HERETIC
Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:41 am
Forum: Overclocking, Tweaking, & Cooling
Topic: I7 8700 reaching 100C
Replies: 83
Views: 6640

Re: I7 8700 reaching 100C

New cooler installed yesterday, and it is so much better it is a little unreal. Msi Frozr isn't the best cooler out there, but it does manage 63-68C(78C max for a little while) even after working p95 for many hours, instead of the 100C i was getting with the Akasa Nero and stock cooler. I don't kno...
by HERETIC
Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:12 am
Forum: Storage
Topic: Challenge: Find HGST's official warranty length :)
Replies: 34
Views: 2344

Re: Challenge: Find HGST's official warranty length :)

Spinning rust has always been a lottery. SSDs are not exempt from the lottery effect. Just ask anyone who bought one of the dodgy OCZ drives, or a Samsung 840 EVO. Don't have one of them-worse-basic 840. Still running fine(coming up to 5th birthday) as long as I run DiskFresh every 6 months....... ...
by HERETIC
Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:19 am
Forum: Storage
Topic: Challenge: Find HGST's official warranty length :)
Replies: 34
Views: 2344

Re: Challenge: Find HGST's official warranty length :)

Speaking of HDD reliability, I just discovered that one of the data drives in my desktop (a WD Blue, model WD40EZRZ) is one of the re-badged Green drives. With the stupid head parking issue. Over 2 million load/unload cycles. :roll: Kicking myself for not noticing before the count got that high, bu...
by HERETIC
Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:32 pm
Forum: System Builders Anonymous
Topic: Help me choose an upgrade for my son's PC
Replies: 21
Views: 1747

Re: Help me choose an upgrade for my son's PC

MOSFET wrote:
K-series (unlocked) CPUs have a beefier stock cooler.


Do they now? :wink:


Should read-Used to have a beefier stock cooler.......................................................
by HERETIC
Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:06 am
Forum: Apple Sanctuary
Topic: iPhone slowdowns with subsequent iOS updates
Replies: 117
Views: 6287

Re: iPhone slowdowns with subsequent iOS updates

My 6s+ was great for a while, but recently it hangs for a good 30 seconds at random times, such as bringing up a txt message or opening an email. Never happened before. I’m sure my battery is degraded, and Apple claims to be limiting burst performance to conserve battery life, but opening a txt mes...
by HERETIC
Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:57 am
Forum: Storage
Topic: Challenge: Find HGST's official warranty length :)
Replies: 34
Views: 2344

Re: Challenge: Find HGST's official warranty length :)

It very well might be fine, but these drives are still more exotic and with less public scrutiny. I don't know what flash they use or what firmware decisions they've made. It's not unheard of to have UFDs fail early, and TR's SSD weardown series revealed some very questionable end-of-life firmware ...
by HERETIC
Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:47 pm
Forum: Overclocking, Tweaking, & Cooling
Topic: I7 8700 reaching 100C
Replies: 83
Views: 6640

Re: I7 8700 reaching 100C

Heretic: sorry I missed that, actually a nice little program. 85-87W at load and 9-12W at idle. I do find myself doubting the load number a little bit in my particular case thinking it may be even higher than this, though it does sound reasonable for a cpu that didn't lose the silicon lottery. Do w...
by HERETIC
Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:05 am
Forum: System Builders Anonymous
Topic: Help me choose an upgrade for my son's PC
Replies: 21
Views: 1747

Re: Help me choose an upgrade for my son's PC

Yeah, man, RAM is so expensive it kind of kills whole system upgrades right now. I'd also go for the CPU first, either a 3570 or a 3770. I don't even know that the $90 difference between the i7 and the i5 is even worth it. I'd be tempted to go 3570 right now and put any extra money away to get a gr...
by HERETIC
Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:03 am
Forum: Overclocking, Tweaking, & Cooling
Topic: I7 8700 reaching 100C
Replies: 83
Views: 6640

Re: I7 8700 reaching 100C

HERETIC: I'm using occt, it has all the information you are speaking about and I posted imgur links to pictures of it. The reason I suggested you run Core Temp was your interest in how much power your CPU was using- "I'm kinda curius about total system power usage myself, but that doesn't real...
by HERETIC
Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:44 pm
Forum: Storage
Topic: Challenge: Find HGST's official warranty length :)
Replies: 34
Views: 2344

Re: Challenge: Find HGST's official warranty length :)

The HGST 5400 RPM model sells for $42 from Amazon as the seller, it's just out of stock. But either way HGST's warranty is unsatisfactory. You can find Seagate's 1TB/128MB/SSD hybrid/5 year warranty for around the same price as HGST's 7200 RPM, but it's Seagate, plus I'm not sure what happens if ju...
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