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by End User
Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:06 am
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Dashcam for my Car - Buying Advice Needed
Replies: 19
Views: 787

Re: Dashcam for my Car - Buying Advice Needed

Are you going to release the footage to the authorities if you are at fault? I live in a no-fault state and I don't do road-rage. Beyond that, I'm not going to overthink this. Do you have advice to share? I'm against the surveillance state so I sure as hell am against being surveilled by its people.
by End User
Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:33 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3137

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

There are several main kinds of people who like to categorize things and they don't get along or even interact until some rabble-rouser forces the issue: Those that like to divide things into two binary/bivalent groups (e.g. Boolean true/false, good/bad, black/white) will see only Consumer and Prof...
by End User
Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:53 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3137

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

The MacOS users who are using the last Mac pro that came in a tower form factor, and are using MacOS due to better workflow or such, or a MacBook Pro with decent specs, I don't make fun as much as the iMac owners. When it comes to spending other peoples money (namely my employers) I have no problem...
by End User
Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:47 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3137

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

It just hit me in remembrance and I now know why EndUser is an Apple-Droid. I haven't searched for the exact thread, but he led us on a multi-page merry chase why Apple was right to eliminate the 3.5mm jack on iPhone 7, most of which was for aesthetic reasons, and that every other phone mfg should ...
by End User
Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:39 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3137

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

price/performance curve AAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH There is more to life than the price/performance curve. I'm typing this out on a 2015 MacBook and I know that it would epically fail your price/performance measurement yet it is my pride and joy. I'm going to give it a hug in a moment. The price/perfor...
by End User
Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:37 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3137

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

Vhalidictes wrote:
price/performance curve

AAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH

There is more to life than the price/performance curve. I'm typing this out on a 2015 MacBook and I know that it would epically fail your price/performance measurement yet it is my pride and joy. I'm going to give it a hug in a moment.
by End User
Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:54 am
Forum: Apple Sanctuary
Topic: Apple WWDC keynote
Replies: 38
Views: 946

Re: Apple WWDC keynote

Vhalidictes wrote:
Taking a step back, it looks like Apple remembered that they aren't a phone company

The Mac faithful started to complain in a major way. The good news is that Apple listened.
by End User
Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:11 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3137

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

Quad core mobile CPUs exist because most mobile CPU manufactures have to compensate for their poor single core performance by adding more cores. Apple gets away with dual core mobile CPUs because their single core performance is so awesome possum. Those A53 octacores SoCs are so popular is because ...
by End User
Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:54 pm
Forum: Apple Sanctuary
Topic: Apple WWDC keynote
Replies: 38
Views: 946

Re: Apple WWDC keynote

derFunkenstein wrote:
10.5" iPad Pro has a big.LITTLE CPU configuration. I'm surprised.

Why is that a surprise? The A10X is based on the A10 found in the iPhone 7:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A10#Design
by End User
Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:48 pm
Forum: Apple Sanctuary
Topic: Apple WWDC keynote
Replies: 38
Views: 946

Re: Apple WWDC keynote

Vhalidictes wrote:
Maybe Apple won't end up being a bigger better Nokia or BlackBerry/RIM after all.

Of course not. Apple refreshes their Nokia/Blackberry killer every year.
by End User
Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:46 pm
Forum: Apple Sanctuary
Topic: Apple WWDC keynote
Replies: 38
Views: 946

Re: Apple WWDC keynote

With no Mac mini update Apple has now, sadly, firmly pushed me out of their desktop lineup. I guess I'm sticking with my Windows based desktop PCs for the foreseeable future.
by End User
Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:41 pm
Forum: Apple Sanctuary
Topic: Apple WWDC keynote
Replies: 38
Views: 946

Re: Apple WWDC keynote

iMac Pro: up to 18-core Xeon up to 128GB ECC RAM up to 4TB of flash storage some sort of Vega with up to 22 TFLOP of "half precision" calc (16-bit float? not up to speed here) 10-Gbit ethernet 27" 5K display Looks kinda ridiculous. They're claiming that the starting config would cost...
by End User
Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:37 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3137

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

I agree with liquid_mage the cap for a consumer CPU today is around $300. Perhaps you should define what you mean by "consumer". Someone who buys a $1,999 CPU is a consumer as far as I am concerned. Do you mean a low-end consumer? A cheap consumer? End User, I think that your posts would ...
by End User
Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:06 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3137

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

I think there is a flaw in the thinking of "whatever a consumer buys" theory. While in absolute terms that is true the reality is what they are buying. They do not buy high core counts because it's wasted money. They buy the cheapest thing that meets their needs. Heck, a Pentium is a good...
by End User
Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:28 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3137

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

Stop using the term "consumer" on its own. I use TR as my guide: Budget general purpose consumer Sweet spot general purpose consumer High-end general purpose consumer Budget enthusiast consumer Sweet spot enthusiast consumer High-end enthusiast consumer Budget professional consumer Sweet s...
by End User
Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:39 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Dashcam for my Car - Buying Advice Needed
Replies: 19
Views: 787

Re: Dashcam for my Car - Buying Advice Needed

Are you going to release the footage to the authorities if you are at fault?
by End User
Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:37 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3137

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

OK after hearing all about AMD and Intel's new "Threadripper" and Core i9 CPUs along with their price tags, I'm beginning to wonder what exactly is a consumer CPU? Don't get wrong, I love having high end hardware but I would have to be making money with it to consider buying what are now ...
by End User
Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:33 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3137

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

Most people, even enthusiasts, are using CPUs under $400. In fact the absolute best gaming CPU (7700K) in existence tops out at $340ish, and you can get a huge portion of that gaming performance in significantly cheaper CPUs as well. Anything more expensive than that is really aimed at specific pow...
by End User
Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:27 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3137

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

A consumer product is anything I can buy. That's a useless definition in the general case. You can buy your own datacenter (or a jetliner) if you have enough money. Does that make them consumer products just because there are individuals out there who could afford them? It's as useless as the term ...
by End User
Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:42 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3137

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

I've been shifting my focus from pc hardware to automotive, but I feel at least on the enthusiast end for both we buy more then we need. Granted it's not entirely the same as one requires user input more then the other but we all need faster/newer/better. All the main hardware in my sig has been pu...
by End User
Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:40 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3137

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

GeForce6200 wrote:
I agree with liquid_mage the cap for a consumer CPU today is around $300.

Perhaps you should define what you mean by "consumer". Someone who buys a $1,999 CPU is a consumer as far as I am concerned.

Do you mean a low-end consumer? A cheap consumer?
by End User
Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:32 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: What are REAL consumer CPUs?
Replies: 132
Views: 3137

Re: What are REAL consumer CPUs?

A consumer product is anything I can buy.
by End User
Mon May 29, 2017 1:05 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: How long before your last build started to fail?
Replies: 76
Views: 2838

Re: How long before your last build started to fail?

My oldest rig still works (2008 i7-920) although it spends most of its time gathering dust.
by End User
Wed May 24, 2017 9:43 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Strange thought of the day.
Replies: 33
Views: 1324

Re: Strange thought of the day.

whm1974 wrote:
Captain Ned wrote:
Quelle surprise on the OP. If I find out you're RMS posting under an alias, there will be repercussions. :wink:

Well I'm not.

Oh Richard, you cheeky devil.
by End User
Tue May 23, 2017 10:59 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Upgrade frustrations
Replies: 22
Views: 1238

Re: Upgrade frustrations

I agree with the other posters that either it's 1) a bad card that only shows the problem in JC3, or 2) a specific issue with current NVIDIA drivers + the 1080 and JC3. In either case you might want to RMA the card just to be sure it's not 1). But there is something that might work out - is there a...
by End User
Mon May 22, 2017 11:13 am
Forum: TR Sports
Topic: Formula One 2017
Replies: 91
Views: 6916

Re: Formula One 2017

Captain Ned wrote:
Alonso qualifies 5th with all four laps over 231 MPH. I think he's figured out oval track in a hurry. Look for orange in your mirrors.

I want Alonso to win it but race day traffic is a totally different beast. He will need all the good fortune he can get next Sunday.
by End User
Mon May 22, 2017 11:10 am
Forum: Cases and Power Supplies
Topic: What cases and PSUs are you guys using?
Replies: 83
Views: 2049

Re: What cases and PSUs are you guys using?

Captain Ned wrote:
End User wrote:
I am eager to get rid of bays and old formats when they no longer serve a purpose.

The 3.5" floppy bays in the P182 serve as a perfect place to park SSDs.

It has no 2.5" bays so you have to put your 2.5" SSDs somewhere.
by End User
Mon May 22, 2017 10:58 am
Forum: Cases and Power Supplies
Topic: What cases and PSUs are you guys using?
Replies: 83
Views: 2049

Re: What cases and PSUs are you guys using?

I'm not sure what my post has to do with your paranoia about proprietary systems and tiny cell phones. I'm using a mid-size case that can take up to an EATX motherboard. As I no longer use hard drives in my PC I was able to remove the dual 3.5" bays to improve internal airflow. The 2.5" b...
by End User
Mon May 22, 2017 2:54 am
Forum: Cases and Power Supplies
Topic: What cases and PSUs are you guys using?
Replies: 83
Views: 2049

Re: What cases and PSUs are you guys using?

From my 2012 build to my 2107 build I have stopped using 5.25", 3.5", and 2.5" drives. Case size has dropped by a third while fan size has increased to 140mm from 120mm. This reminds me of around 10 years ago when the trend for cell phones was to make them as small as possible. They ...
by End User
Mon May 22, 2017 2:37 am
Forum: Cases and Power Supplies
Topic: What cases and PSUs are you guys using?
Replies: 83
Views: 2049

Re: What cases and PSUs are you guys using?

From my 2012 build to my 2107 build I have stopped using 5.25", 3.5", and 2.5" drives. Case size has dropped by a third while fan size has increased to 140mm from 120mm. So what are you using for storage then? As far as I know M.2 gumsticks didn't come out until 2014. Whoops. That wa...
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