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by Doctor Venture
Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:43 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: About Silicon Lottery
Replies: 28
Views: 4973

Re: About Silicon Lottery

You can run your CPU at throttling temps day in and day out at 100% load for years...it's not going to die. Well, yeah. My Sandy Bridge has been doing just that for the last 6 years. The difference, is that the IHS is sealed on tighter, and my Sandy Bridge uses solder, not the cheap TIM they switch...
by Doctor Venture
Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:26 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: About Silicon Lottery
Replies: 28
Views: 4973

Re: About Silicon Lottery

Yeah, reversing the radiators should reduce CPU/GPU temps a bit, but will probably make everything else (RAM, chipset, VRMs, storage devices...) run hotter by raising the air temp inside the case. Again, unless you're planning to OC or otherwise push the CPU really hard (100% load 24x7), I don't se...
by Doctor Venture
Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:47 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: About Silicon Lottery
Replies: 28
Views: 4973

Re: About Silicon Lottery

While I'd rather have the CPU run hotter than all those other things, I can think of one reason it can be better to suck rather than blow. It makes it really easy to dust the radiators because you could even vacuum them from outside the case, without even having to open it up. Okay, then. Since you...
by Doctor Venture
Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:13 pm
Forum: Networking
Topic: Best 24 port managed switches
Replies: 17
Views: 4609

Re: Best 24 port managed switches

Big fan of Extreme Networks switches. They're stable and really easy to manage. They've made some bold moves the last few years in purchasing Enterasys Networks, Zebra Networks Wireless business (which was previously Motorola WiFi), and more recently Avaya's wired network business, and Brocades Dat...
by Doctor Venture
Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:46 pm
Forum: Networking
Topic: Best 24 port managed switches
Replies: 17
Views: 4609

Re: Best 24 port managed switches

I've been thinking of picking up a used enterprise 24-port switch off sleezbay. There is a Quanta model that sells cheap and a Dell, both with 2 10GbE ports. Are those any good? I'm guessing the quality is better than customer grade. But I'm no switch expert. Edit: The quanta looks sketchy from rev...
by Doctor Venture
Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:42 pm
Forum: Networking
Topic: Best 24 port managed switches
Replies: 17
Views: 4609

Re: Best 24 port managed switches

A fiber/ethernet transceiver would provide electrical isolation, but that's getting a bit pricey. Totally. Losing a fiber convertor to lightning wasn't cheap (we'd sometimes have lightning strikes hit the burial cable). At one point, we tried used ethernet lightning surpressors, but they were worth...
by Doctor Venture
Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:44 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: About Silicon Lottery
Replies: 28
Views: 4973

Re: About Silicon Lottery

If you are not planning to overclock, you are WAAAY over-thinking this. Just buy a stock chip and use it as-is. I'm guessing I didn't explain my line of thinking well at all, or I'm just wrong no matter what. Basically, that KL PC is going to go on a microATX mobo, within either a Carbide 240 , a F...
by Doctor Venture
Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:27 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: About Silicon Lottery
Replies: 28
Views: 4973

Re: About Silicon Lottery

If you are not planning to overclock, you are WAAAY over-thinking this. Just buy a stock chip and use it as-is. Unless his "normal" use case is all about running AVX2 code all day. :o LOL! Not unless Juniper, Cisco, Arista, Alcatel/Nokia, CumulusVX, DevStack, Ansible, et al snuck some AVX...
by Doctor Venture
Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:08 pm
Forum: SFF Station
Topic: Question about possible microATX case with high airflow
Replies: 13
Views: 4810

Re: Question about possible microATX case with high airflow

I know nothing about 80mm Noctuas, didn't even know they made any. :) The 140mm Noctua fans I use in my HAF-X are actually on the loud side until I undervolt them, I wasn't conservative enough with the base RPM speeds when I got them, and they don't become background noise until around 850rpm. Huh....
by Doctor Venture
Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:47 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: About Silicon Lottery
Replies: 28
Views: 4973

Re: About Silicon Lottery

I just delidded i7-7700(no-k). My experience matches up whats on better parts of web. The TIM already inside CPU is pretty good. What improvement you will see is due to fact that when you use your own sealant to secure IHS, it will lower it/bring closer to CPU. You wont see big jump unless you go t...
by Doctor Venture
Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:42 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: Dumb idea/thought experiment
Replies: 36
Views: 1899

Re: Dumb idea/thought experiment

Doctor (Thaddeus) Venture, if you knew how much Netscreen/Juniper stuff costs, even compared to Cisco, you'd know you were right. Juniper has a long heritage of using (highly) custom ASICS to do a variety of nominally software-based network tasks. Other than cost, it's a good solution to get superi...
by Doctor Venture
Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:51 am
Forum: Gaming
Topic: Xbox One X
Replies: 74
Views: 6991

Re: Xbox One X

Like everyone else has said, if you check out Digital Foundry, the Xbox One X can totally do 4K. It requires devs making the time and effort to take advantage of it (and I think MS has supplied certain studios with a performance analyzer tool, to help hit the magic numbers). That said, for all the n...
by Doctor Venture
Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:40 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: About Silicon Lottery
Replies: 28
Views: 4973

Re: About Silicon Lottery

Why would you buy from them if you are going to keep it at stock anyway? Keep in mind the 7700K runs at 4.2Ghz by default, it is the 7700 that defaults to 3.6Ghz. Speaking for longevity's sake having them replace the TIM means you may have to re-replace it yourself down the road depending on how lo...
by Doctor Venture
Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:28 am
Forum: SFF Station
Topic: Question about possible microATX case with high airflow
Replies: 13
Views: 4810

Re: Question about possible microATX case with high airflow

I just say upfront that I think you will be hard pressed to find an 80mm fan that moves a lot of air but isn't loud. Even the 80mm Noctua's? That sucks... :/ [ Now, for the threadripper build, I'm likely going to get either another HAF 932 Advanced, or a HAF X: My old tower is a HAF-X, didn't even ...
by Doctor Venture
Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:32 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card
Replies: 20
Views: 4840

Re: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card

Even a bargain basement GPU should be able to drive a 2K monitor these days. My primary desktop has a craptastic GT 720 (no gaming, so I opted for something cheap with passive cooling when I put this build together), driving a 1920x1080 primary display plus a pair of equally craptastic 1280x1024s f...
by Doctor Venture
Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:07 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card
Replies: 20
Views: 4840

Re: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card

@Chrispy_ OK, I may be completely misunderstanding this, but even some of the servers that offered ESXi as an option I had looked at (long before threadripper launched) included a graphics card. I know ESXi uses a CLI, since I ignored VMware's advice, and installed it in Workstation 12.5 Pro, just f...
by Doctor Venture
Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:54 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Dumb idea/thought experiment
Replies: 36
Views: 1899

Re: Dumb idea/thought experiment

Well, at the risk of zombifying this thread, it turns out I wasn't completely off the mark. While HBM2 and HMC are still really expensive, I was doing a little research for someone who wanted to know why certain models of Cisco routers couldn't be emulated (long story short, even though the 1921/194...
by Doctor Venture
Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:44 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Eclipse on August 21
Replies: 76
Views: 6356

Re: Eclipse on August 21

Go to your local welding supply shop and ask for welding glasses in Grades 12-14, or make yourself a camera obscura out of 2 pieces of cardboard. The backers for legal pads work really well. I did this at my then-employer out in the parking lot for the May 1994 annular eclipse and my co-workers wer...
by Doctor Venture
Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:28 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: About Silicon Lottery
Replies: 28
Views: 4973

About Silicon Lottery

I've seen Silicon Lottery mentioned here a few times, in regards to them de-lidding Intel CPUs, applying better TIM, and binning the CPUs. When I was looking at i7-7700K Kaby Lakes, I noticed that the prices Silicon Lottery charge for a binned 4.2GHz chip they worked on wasn't that much more than bu...
by Doctor Venture
Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:17 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card
Replies: 20
Views: 4840

Re: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card

What OS are you running the management client from? If it's the ESXi Embedded Host Client, then any GPU will do as long as it has the output you need. If you're running windows get yourself a basic RX 550 for the Eyefinity support, if you're running Linux get yourself a GT 1030 for the Proprietary ...
by Doctor Venture
Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:05 pm
Forum: SFF Station
Topic: Question about possible microATX case with high airflow
Replies: 13
Views: 4810

Re: Question about possible microATX case with high airflow

You'd need a lot of fan mounts, and mATX cases rarely have enough. I've never personally seen an mATX case that could quietly cool high-end components, which is why I still use a tower. Things like the Hadron Hydro are neat and look good on paper, but loud as hell under any sort of load. These are ...
by Doctor Venture
Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:31 am
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card
Replies: 20
Views: 4840

Re: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card

I know. I also have vSphere (including the Client), which I can use the mgmt webpage to configure ESXi, SecureCRT to SSH into the VMs running in ESXi, as well as monitoring software I'm not expecting to use the monitor/gfx card exclusively for ESXi, it's for the other stuff. I guess I phrased it poo...
by Doctor Venture
Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:56 am
Forum: SFF Station
Topic: Question about possible microATX case with high airflow
Replies: 13
Views: 4810

Re: Question about possible microATX case with high airflow

well, the gaming performance with Threadripper isn't all that great, and I was wanting to devote that to be just a workstation anyway. Some of the newer games don't run run all that great on my current PC, so I'm leaning to the i7 7700K Kaby Lake (speaking of, has anyone here used Silicon Lottery to...
by Doctor Venture
Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:43 am
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card
Replies: 20
Views: 4840

Re: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card

I never bothered to keep up with VMWare after workstation 10-ish... But... you barely need a monitor for ESXi as its not a typical OS. During install it would be nice, other wise you do everything remotely with management tools. Unless you plan to pass through a GPU to each VM and that is what you ...
by Doctor Venture
Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:36 am
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card
Replies: 20
Views: 4840

Re: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card

One other thing to consider, see which board is recommended for running KVM/QEMU for GPU passthrough. Technically, not ready for prime time. Not for sake of using Linux instead of ESXi but rather, it might be good indication of which is better "Threadripper" class board. If its doing devi...
by Doctor Venture
Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:32 am
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card
Replies: 20
Views: 4840

Re: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card

You only need to splash out on an gaming/workstation card like a 560 or 1050 for 3440x1440 and above, all the cheaper cards will happily do 2560x1600 and below. A GT710 is often a good combination of cheap, only a bit ancient and not too much slower than integrated graphics, but even the 5450/R5 23...
by Doctor Venture
Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:08 am
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card
Replies: 20
Views: 4840

Re: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card

Cool! Thanks folks! With the cryptominers jacking up the prices, and me just needing something to drive a widescreen 2K monitor. I was a little worried I'd be SOL. I'm expecting to get screwed on my next gaming rig, though. Especially since I'd love a 1070 or 1080 CPU with a 4K G-Sync monitor. At le...
by Doctor Venture
Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:24 pm
Forum: SFF Station
Topic: Question about possible microATX case with high airflow
Replies: 13
Views: 4810

Question about possible microATX case with high airflow

My current gaming rig/office PC has an old i7-2600K Sandy Bridge, with an SSD for the boot drive, an HD7950 Radeon, and a bunch of multi-TB HDDs crammed into a HAF 932 case. It's served me well thus far, but I'm thinking about upgrading to a smaller mATX case, with a i7-7700K Kaby Lake (unless I wai...
by Doctor Venture
Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:27 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card
Replies: 20
Views: 4840

Question about a monitor, and a cheap video card

Since I'm planning on building a Threadripper system to use as a workstation (no games), I've got a question I'm hoping the knowledgeable folks here can answer. About 99% of the time, this machine will be running VMs in ESXi (I plan on getting the best CLC for the CPU, and adding 128GB RAM, since I ...
by Doctor Venture
Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:06 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Eclipse on August 21
Replies: 76
Views: 6356

Re: Eclipse on August 21

I'm one of the folks directly in the path of totality. What sucks, is that if the European forecasting model holds up, it'll be overcast. :( The American forecasting model says the weather will head south of us, but after all the articles about the European forecasting model being far more accurate,...