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by synthtel2
Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:26 am
Forum: Storage
Topic: 960 Evo vs 860 Evo
Replies: 5
Views: 720

Re: 960 Evo vs 860 Evo

Unless you have a specific workload that needs very fast storage, you should go with the cheaper one. For the vast majority of desktop workloads, there's basically no difference in practical speed between a mid-range SATA SSD and the fastest stuff on the market.
by synthtel2
Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:49 pm
Forum: Gaming
Topic: How do you actually run games on high-spec monitors?
Replies: 43
Views: 1013

Re: How do you actually run games on high-spec monitors?

Certainly, having a ton of graphics power beats not having a ton of graphics power. Discussions like this just inevitably contain a lot of statements like "4K is pointless without a 1080 Ti", at which point I've got to wonder what's being smoked.
by synthtel2
Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:21 pm
Forum: Gaming
Topic: How do you actually run games on high-spec monitors?
Replies: 43
Views: 1013

Re: How do you actually run games on high-spec monitors?

Pancake wrote:
If you wanna game at all, you wanna game with da fruits. The quality levels dialled up all nice and high. Otherwise why bother?

Because the eye candy isn't actually why I'm here. If it isn't still fun without the eye candy, it isn't actually a good game.
by synthtel2
Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:11 pm
Forum: Gaming
Topic: How do you actually run games on high-spec monitors?
Replies: 43
Views: 1013

Re: How do you actually run games on high-spec monitors?

1440p, 144 Hz, and RX 460 here (maybe 40% of a 1060 6G on a very good day). I don't intentionally do a 5-year lag or anything, but most of the AAA blockbusters just aren't that compelling to me, and I'm fine with turning down settings (to 1440p/low if necessary). That graphics setup is almost never ...
by synthtel2
Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:32 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Der8Auer ripped[2] Cinebench's threads out!
Replies: 20
Views: 839

Re: Der8Auer ripped[2] Cinebench's threads out!

It will be a problem to anyone who plays video games after they're done with their Blender render. For example: Me. All of my video games will be 21GB/s on a 1+1+1+1 setup (when a far cheaper Ryzen 2700 or Intel i7-8700k will be 42GB/s on a 2-channel setup), because games are typically low-latency ...
by synthtel2
Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:54 pm
Forum: Linux, Unix, and Assorted Madness
Topic: Pulseaudio or MOC issue on pause/play
Replies: 27
Views: 10378

Re: Pulseaudio or MOC issue on pause/play

4.17.2. Not only have I not been able to find any reports of my particular problems from the ALC1220, the ALC1220 has been completely disabled for a while now (at least in theory). The OSes can't ID it at all, at least.
by synthtel2
Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:55 am
Forum: Linux, Unix, and Assorted Madness
Topic: Pulseaudio or MOC issue on pause/play
Replies: 27
Views: 10378

Re: Pulseaudio or MOC issue on pause/play

Everything is still terrible. :evil: Last I knew of the mobo's built-in audio, it was getting steadily worse over time. That shouldn't be an issue, as I'm now using both a USB DAC and USB ADC (separate boxes) and have the mobo's audio disabled in UEFI, but problems are creeping back in. * Mic qualit...
by synthtel2
Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:34 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Der8Auer ripped[2] Cinebench's threads out!
Replies: 20
Views: 839

Re: Der8Auer ripped[2] Cinebench's threads out!

That still sounds like a problem that will only actually be a problem if they're marketing this to people who want 32 cores because it sounds cool instead of for a real workload (which they probably are, to be fair).
by synthtel2
Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:03 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Der8Auer ripped[2] Cinebench's threads out!
Replies: 20
Views: 839

Re: Der8Auer ripped[2] Cinebench's threads out!

1+1+1+1 would be a significant degregation in single-threaded memory bandwidth, in fact it would half your bandwidth. I almost would expect that 2+2+0+0 would be faster for most people who'd buy Threadripper. In the case of 2666 MT/s RAM (aka 21GB/s), 2+2+0+0 would have 42GB/s bandwidth, while 1+1+...
by synthtel2
Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:54 pm
Forum: Echo Vale
Topic: Headphone Help Corsair Void Pro vs HyperX Cloud Alpha
Replies: 4
Views: 309

Re: Headphone Help Corsair Void Pro vs HyperX Cloud Alpha

Exactly what tanker27 said, to the letter. I'd hazard an ill-informed guess you're right that the Cloud Alpha will sound a lot better than the Void Pro, but I'd also guess that an Audio-Technica M30x ($70 nominal) or Grado SR60e ($80 nominal) would blow them both out of the water. (I could ramble ab...
by synthtel2
Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:12 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: Which piece of hardware do you research the most? Why?
Replies: 34
Views: 839

Re: Which piece of hardware do you research the most? Why?

When speccing out a specific build, the motherboard is the troublesome one. There's altogether too much junk out there. Overall, right now it's CPUs by far. That mostly isn't about choosing the right one to buy, though, it's about understanding performance for development reasons (and before that it...
by synthtel2
Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:41 pm
Forum: Mobile Tech
Topic: University (and beyond) laptop
Replies: 16
Views: 662

Re: University (and beyond) laptop

Today's front page deals post has a relevant-looking machine in it. It's Dell, fits the RAM/storage/budget requirements, and has an 8550U (4C8T, 1.8 base, 4.0 boost).
by synthtel2
Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:13 pm
Forum: Mobile Tech
Topic: University (and beyond) laptop
Replies: 16
Views: 662

Re: University (and beyond) laptop

I don't anticipate doing anything with monstrous amounts of data until at least grad school. As ludi said earlier, if I really need anything super powerful, the school should provide me with it. If I'm able to provide some more cooling (better thermal paste, maybe?), then it can turbo up to 3.6 GHz...
by synthtel2
Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:11 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Updating issues in Linux MInt
Replies: 24
Views: 728

Re: Updating issues in Linux MInt

It won't hurt anything, it just seems unlikely the old driver has gotten serious improvements since then (not that I've been following it closely or anything). AMDGPU was already good enough for everyone to be focusing on it in July 2017.
by synthtel2
Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:44 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Updating issues in Linux MInt
Replies: 24
Views: 728

Re: Updating issues in Linux MInt

That's recent enough that the open-source driver is probably about as good as it's going to get, unfortunately. Running the Catalyst installer you downloaded should probably be the next thing to try. We can provide instructions for the graphical interface if we know what the file manager is (maybe s...
by synthtel2
Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:19 pm
Forum: Mobile Tech
Topic: University (and beyond) laptop
Replies: 16
Views: 662

Re: University (and beyond) laptop

I don't have much feel for where the cutoff between being bound by CPU and RAM would normally be on Excel, but if you do run out of RAM, it'd definitely be more of a problem than not having enough of a CPU. Taking 20 minutes to load may be a sign that it is RAM-bound in the use of it you're seeing r...
by synthtel2
Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:26 pm
Forum: Mobile Tech
Topic: University (and beyond) laptop
Replies: 16
Views: 662

Re: University (and beyond) laptop

Emulated games - may barely work depending on the games and emulator. Dolphin, for one, is liable to be pretty shoddy on that CPU. 3D printing - should be fine so long as you don't go for crazy polycounts. Light coding - depends what light means, of course, but it should be at least servicable. Exce...
by synthtel2
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:51 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: I built a memory bench
Replies: 8
Views: 951

Re: I built a memory bench

All RAM, excepting the smaller working set sizes in the first battery of tests. Its behavior in that first battery can confirm transitions (and the shape of transitions) between cache levels and looks to be probably not entirely useless for L3, but the compute side is way too slow to make L1/L2 numb...
by synthtel2
Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:18 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: I built a memory bench
Replies: 8
Views: 951

Re: I built a memory bench

Hmm, something weird is going on with that 2600X - I've never seen bandwidth drop like that with SMT use, and 39 GB/s only requires 2800 for me. That's some awesome Intel-grade latency, though, and massively better than my 1700 would manage at settings like that. Something about this isn't handling ...
by synthtel2
Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:33 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: I built a memory bench
Replies: 8
Views: 951

Re: I built a memory bench

Yeah, sorry about the weird distribution. I don't care at all about wide distribution, the usual ways to distribute code have real names all over everything (which it isn't quite time for here), and most of the people I'm sending it to would prefer the non-coder version anyway. Nice, it looks like a...
by synthtel2
Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:59 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: I built a memory bench
Replies: 8
Views: 951

I built a memory bench

... Because I was curious about some of the more obscure properties of memory performance, and this seemed both more illustrative and more fun than doing the research in a more normal way. It is quick-and-dirty in many ways, not at all production-ready (whatever that may mean in this case), and will...
by synthtel2
Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:22 pm
Forum: System Builders Anonymous
Topic: Need help with buying a new pc
Replies: 18
Views: 1265

Re: Need help with buying a new pc

Video and offline rendering can eat up RAM very quickly, but we're talking about still frames and 2D here, right? I was making a recommendation with the OP specifically in mind, not a general-purpose workstation. File caching is nice in theory, but I don't notice any practical difference at all when...
by synthtel2
Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:12 pm
Forum: Gaming
Topic: Windows 10 1803 update crashing games in steam client?
Replies: 8
Views: 472

Re: Windows 10 1803 update crashing games in steam client?

Have you stress-tested? If not, you really ought to. Throw in Unigine Heaven or Valley for some basic graphics stress-testing and if it fails it'll also rule Steam out of the picture.
by synthtel2
Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:37 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: VEGA 64 Temps, Boost Clock, and Wattage
Replies: 10
Views: 450

Re: VEGA 64 Temps, Boost Clock, and Wattage

Undervolting wouldn't be a necessary part of this if AMD's stock voltage/frequency curves were sane, but they aren't. On my RX 460 (power only through the PCIe slot so the power limit has to stay strict), stock was 1040-1090 mV and 1060-1100 MHz (I forget the exact numbers but within 10 of those), a...
by synthtel2
Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:13 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: Am I bottlenecked?
Replies: 36
Views: 1720

Re: Am I bottlenecked?

I decided to do some more searching online about bottlenecks. And the results seem confusing but pretty much finding the same information everywhere. And that being my CPU is going to cause a bottleneck. How much will vary on resolution and such. But likely about 5% up to 25% in some games. The hig...
by synthtel2
Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:28 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: Am I bottlenecked?
Replies: 36
Views: 1720

Re: Am I bottlenecked?

Memory performance is another big thing that's seen a lot of improvement in the last six years, but often gets glossed over. You can always try to optimize the balance by tweaking settings. Some settings will push the CPU, others the GPU. At low res, low textures, no AA you are certainly more likely...
by synthtel2
Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:25 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: Am I bottlenecked?
Replies: 36
Views: 1720

Re: Am I bottlenecked?

Yes, you'll probably be CPU-limited at many times (bad-case frames / rarely average ones depending on the games you play), but that's not the same as your CPU being problematically weak. You can't generate infinite frames and are always going to be bottlenecked by something. Bottlenecks aren't the e...
by synthtel2
Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:22 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Updating issues in Linux MInt
Replies: 24
Views: 728

Re: Updating issues in Linux MInt

Ah, and I was still confused because the A4-7300 is actually a chip that belongs in 6000-series APU naming. :-? They probably still had too much stock of one of the older chips. It's confirmable as Terascale because AMD's pages for the GCN-based APUs note DX12 support. In short, Veerappan's got it a...
by synthtel2
Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:43 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Updating issues in Linux MInt
Replies: 24
Views: 728

Re: Updating issues in Linux MInt

8000-series should in a sane world represent GCN parts across the board, but this one's Terascale-based. Edit: it is not. I looked at the GPU model instead of the CPU model given, and they don't match. lex-ington, is the GPU an 8470D, or a dedicated card? If it's an 8470D, the situation is a lo...
by synthtel2
Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:28 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Skylake-X Burners Club
Replies: 29
Views: 965

Re: Skylake-X Burners Club

Hmm, that's the way my 4690K died (increased power consumption). I've seen another Haswell 4+2 fail in that way lately too, that one being in a laptop (1.07V max) with a brain-dead heatsink design that doesn't make contact with one corner of the CPU die, and due to the location of the bad cooling I'...
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