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by bfg-9000
Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:19 pm
Forum: Windows
Topic: Keeping a Windows install (dual-boot) out of the way on a budget
Replies: 69
Views: 5003

Re: Keeping a Windows install (dual-boot) out of the way on a budget

Using Windows 7 nowadays is actually far more pleasant than it was when the free update to 10 was being pushed so hard. Back then, they were trying hard to annoy you into upgrading so any early single-core Pentium 4 or A64 suffered badly at 100% CPU for 6-8 hours every day just automatically running...
by bfg-9000
Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:47 am
Forum: Windows
Topic: Keeping a Windows install (dual-boot) out of the way on a budget
Replies: 69
Views: 5003

Re: Keeping a Windows install (dual-boot) out of the way on a budget

That's odd, if you just installed 10 you should've got 1703 to begin with. "Defer Updates" only stops the version upgrade for 6 months. If you want to defer it longer you have to use Microsoft's Wushowhide.diagcab tool from KB3073930 normally used to hide malfunctioning drivers. Click the ...
by bfg-9000
Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:29 am
Forum: Storage
Topic: New Sata 3 drive = blank screen
Replies: 14
Views: 3125

Re: New Sata 3 drive = blank screen

I've had some dodgy BIOS upgrades where the floppy wouldn't read or the USB ports just disappeared in the middle of it. The last chipsets I had to use a jumper or IBM Feature Tool on to set SATA-II drives as SATA-I were VIA using the VT8237 Southbridge for socket 754 and 939 for AGP. Generally their...
by bfg-9000
Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:54 am
Forum: Windows
Topic: Keeping a Windows install (dual-boot) out of the way on a budget
Replies: 69
Views: 5003

Re: Keeping a Windows install (dual-boot) out of the way on a budget

Under Power Options, pick the completely unintuitive "Choose what the power button does" on the left, then untick "Turn on fast startup."

If I had wanted to hibernate, I would also want my windows to be restored. Fast startup logs you off before hibernating.
by bfg-9000
Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:59 pm
Forum: Networking
Topic: Help Picking New Router
Replies: 30
Views: 3650

Re: Help Picking New Router

I too recommend an ASUS RT-AC66U because I've never seen any consumer grade router more reliable than a MIPs device running Tomato (which both factory and Merlin are based on). My uptime is currently 23 months and for the 3 years before that it was only ever rebooted for firmware updates. The caveat...
by bfg-9000
Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:26 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Darn it, Equifax!
Replies: 79
Views: 6436

Re: Darn it, Equifax!

Unenforceable just means you can sue for the right to sue or at least have to convince a judge you should be able to sue, so it's better and easier to opt out now if you decide to use the free credit monitoring service. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau thought arbitration clauses in general ...
by bfg-9000
Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:47 pm
Forum: The Back Porch
Topic: Darn it, Equifax!
Replies: 79
Views: 6436

Re: Darn it, Equifax!

Just a note for anyone using that site to check if they were affected by the breach--you have agreed to restrict your legal rights and not sue them in the TOS: AGREEMENT TO RESOLVE ALL DISPUTES BY BINDING INDIVIDUAL ARBITRATION. PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE SECTION CAREFULLY BECAUSE IT AFFECTS YOUR LEGAL...
by bfg-9000
Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:45 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Replacement for HD 7970GHZ
Replies: 17
Views: 3888

Re: Replacement for HD 7970GHZ

The 1060 is roughly 100% faster than the regular 7970. You're wrong, sorry. Not in DOTA2, which is famously CPU-limited and the only game named in this thread. Show me a benchmark where 1060 is 100% faster than 7970 in DOTA2 @ 1080p and I will eat my words. So you are relying on extremely tenuous c...
by bfg-9000
Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:43 am
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Replacement for HD 7970GHZ
Replies: 17
Views: 3888

Re: Replacement for HD 7970GHZ

That is not a 7970 GHz Ed. and I am sure you noticed many of those are nVidia Gameworks titles, which are artificially deoptimized for both older nVidia cards and AMD cards. That's why it takes a freaking GTX 980 or R9 Nano to match that GTX 1060. My point was both 7970 GHz Ed. and RX 470 are 2048:1...
by bfg-9000
Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:55 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Forcing max all-core turbo on i7 4790 (non-K) under load.
Replies: 12
Views: 1596

Re: Forcing max all-core turbo on i7 4790 (non-K) under load.

The BIOS you have is the one ASUS released to allow multiplier overclocking for "K" processors on non-Z87/Z97 chipset boards. Other manufacturers had unlocked that feature the year before but Intel had "fixed" it again with microcodes in week 30 of 2013 . It didn't offer anything...
by bfg-9000
Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:33 am
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Replacement for HD 7970GHZ
Replies: 17
Views: 3888

Re: Replacement for HD 7970GHZ

Those midrange cards aren't that much faster than a 7970 Ghz Ed./8970/R9 280X which are fairly comparable to a RX 470 only with double the power consumption. The jump to a Vega56 or GTX1070 would be well worth it if going up to 1440p. For 1080p though (or Dota 2, it's not demanding), the 7970 is ple...
by bfg-9000
Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:05 am
Forum: Overclocking, Tweaking, & Cooling
Topic: Case Fan
Replies: 9
Views: 3780

Re: Case Fan

I've pretty much standardized on the 1350rpm Arctic F12 PWM as it was just $4 each for a really long time on Amazon in the 5-packs. The cheap FDB probably doesn't last that long (cheap ones usually die from leakage) but it's consistent and very quiet for the airflow. The various $20 Noctuas are no q...
by bfg-9000
Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:33 am
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: Best motherboard for Netburst CPU?
Replies: 48
Views: 5227

Re: Best motherboard for Netburst CPU?

I did say Presler definitely works, but so does the single core variant Cedar Mill on 65nm. Depends on whether the board's BIOS exposes those CPU features of course, but that should be no issue on a Gigabyte board. Such a setup should be triple-boot XP-32, Win7-64 and 10-64. I suggest Gavotte RAMDis...
by bfg-9000
Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:55 pm
Forum: Motherboards, Chipsets, & RAM
Topic: Best motherboard for Netburst CPU?
Replies: 48
Views: 5227

Re: Best motherboard for Netburst CPU?

aliexpress have thousands of samples of used P45 Gigabyte boards. How does a GA-EP45-DS3L for $45.13 shipped each sound? The seller has nearly 10,000 of them. If you want RAID, GA-EP45-DS3LR is $67.30 but they have fewer than a thousand. A warning though--the programmable VRM on P45 boards may give ...
by bfg-9000
Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:48 pm
Forum: Windows
Topic: Win10 Creator's Update uninstalling software
Replies: 15
Views: 4611

Re: Win10 Creator's Update uninstalling software

Every update seems to uninstall software Microsoft doesn't like, just as the upgrade from 7 or 8.1 did. Sometimes it just disables the software such as, Microsoft admitted, 5% of all 3rd-party antivirus--to replace it with Windows Defender. The 6-month update schedule is terrible, as every time one ...
by bfg-9000
Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:13 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: About Silicon Lottery
Replies: 28
Views: 4982

Re: About Silicon Lottery

Okay, then. Since you feel strongly about sticking with a stock speed Kaby Lake, how about this? So how does this sound? If that stock, non-,modified KL dies in 8 months without myself or anyone I know touching the PC, you would owe me a new KL., Sound like plan? If a non-overclocked, non-delidded ...
by bfg-9000
Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:57 am
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: Waiting for Miners to go away? Don't hold your breath
Replies: 16
Views: 1150

Re: Waiting for Miners to go away? Don't hold your breath

southrncomfortjm wrote:
I think retailers are simply being slow to reduce prices even though demand has dropped.

This. It's like how gas prices rise immediately whenever some crisis shows up in the news, but take forever to drop again.
by bfg-9000
Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:53 am
Forum: Networking
Topic: Best 24 port managed switches
Replies: 17
Views: 4614

Re: Best 24 port managed switches

A switch is either managed or unmanaged. "Smart switches" are just a marketing term. Yes, there are varying degrees of management, and obviously an L3/L4 managed switch will have more features than an L2 managed switch. Hey it's the switch manufacturers' own term for switches that have mo...
by bfg-9000
Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:14 am
Forum: Processors
Topic: About Silicon Lottery
Replies: 28
Views: 4982

Re: About Silicon Lottery

While I'd rather have the CPU run hotter than all those other things, I can think of one reason it can be better to suck rather than blow.

It makes it really easy to dust the radiators because you could even vacuum them from outside the case, without even having to open it up.
by bfg-9000
Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:05 am
Forum: Networking
Topic: Best 24 port managed switches
Replies: 17
Views: 4614

Re: Best 24 port managed switches

Nothing wrong with enterprise quality equipment if you can get it at a good price. OP should know though that such equipment can be much more flexible and powerful than consumer equipment so may have many more settings to configure wrong, and that if it doesn't have a reset button even the procedure...
by bfg-9000
Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:20 am
Forum: Networking
Topic: Best 24 port managed switches
Replies: 17
Views: 4614

Re: Best 24 port managed switches

OP does not actually name any managed switches, only "Smart," mostly L2 ones that are in a different price range. One of OP's questions was if managed switches can improve performance and the simple answer is no--gigabit is gigabit at wire speed. The more thorough answer is that managed sw...
by bfg-9000
Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:07 pm
Forum: Networking
Topic: Best 24 port managed switches
Replies: 17
Views: 4614

Re: Best 24 port managed switches

Back in the early days of gigabit when it was expensive, I tried these network surge protectors from both APC and Tripp-Lite . I did think it was a good idea to short any surges to ground. Well both of them fried in short order (no performance difference when they were working), and all of my gigabi...
by bfg-9000
Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:53 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: About Silicon Lottery
Replies: 28
Views: 4982

Re: About Silicon Lottery

I would have no problem running a CPU at 95C continuously, and have never heard of an unoverclocked KL running that hot no matter how bad the case is, except the laptop ones. Those run that hot by design. Keep in mind that the delid does not violate the laws of thermodynamics and reduce the heat goi...
by bfg-9000
Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:23 pm
Forum: Windows
Topic: Anyone remember how to fix Windows 98?
Replies: 17
Views: 4811

Re: Anyone remember how to fix Windows 98?

Looks like a hardware failure as you've already tried a clean install. Capacitors allowing too much ripple, PSU, IDE cable, etc. BTW I've run Memtest-86 before with no errors on multiple passes, on systems that turned out to be too unstable to boot into Windows. I've only run a single pass of it for...
by bfg-9000
Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:58 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: About Silicon Lottery
Replies: 28
Views: 4982

Re: About Silicon Lottery

The problem isn't the $25, it's that you also get a guaranteed worst possible bin of a chip (those have to go somewhere after all, after they pick out all the good ones). If geniekid would tell us how much they charged for the delid service on his own unbinned, random sample chip, that's different. ...
by bfg-9000
Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:41 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Vega Meta Analysis
Replies: 130
Views: 8174

Re: Vega Meta Analysis

It's certainly a disappointment that neither Vega nor 1080 are really satisfactory for 4k. It really could have been worse though because the huge disparity in power consumption could also have been tied to noncompetitive performance like the FX-9590! There's no harm in having a low-volume halo prod...
by bfg-9000
Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:36 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: About Silicon Lottery
Replies: 28
Views: 4982

Re: About Silicon Lottery

Let me get this straight. You would pay $25 extra for a delidded chip that's only binned to run at stock speed? Anandtech had what they thought was a middling-poor sample and they could run that at 4.2GHz all-cores when undervolted to 1.100v. Just use the chip and only consider a delid if it's going...
by bfg-9000
Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:09 pm
Forum: Graphics
Topic: Vega Meta Analysis
Replies: 130
Views: 8174

Re: Vega Meta Analysis

If anything the Vega 64 should be compared with the GTX1070 because after you include the price of the monitors they are the same price, thanks to the G-Sync tax.

Only if you want to use variable refresh rate, of course.
by bfg-9000
Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:21 pm
Forum: General Hardware
Topic: Voltage / frequency curves
Replies: 24
Views: 7190

Re: Voltage / frequency curves

Does anyone else find 1.4v on 14nm disturbing? Back at 45nm we had a never-exceed voltage of 1.45v, and at 130nm (nearly 10x larger) we had Sudden Northwood Death Syndrome above 1.7v...
by bfg-9000
Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:12 pm
Forum: Processors
Topic: Coffee Lake Not Supported by Intel’s 200-Series Motherboards?
Replies: 20
Views: 6457

Re: Coffee Lake Not Supported by Intel’s 200-Series Motherboards?

Naah, every time before when Intel wanted to break backwards socket compatibility (in order to sell more chipsets) they just published a new VRM specification for the new chips. That's why only motherboards made after the new spec could use the later chips, even if they used an older chipset (explai...
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