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I disagree, I know some people who really don't listen to music at all. However, I don't know anyone who doesn't use language every day, unless they're mute, and even then they can use sign language.

However for me, I would have a hard time without music.

thegleek wrote:

ask yerself how the world would be a better place if it only had language and no music. i'm talking back in the roman days, the classical days, all times basically.

and i'll say it again: music is life

thank u

Let's turn this around. Ask yourself what the world would be like if we only had music, and no language.

Hawkwing74 wrote:

I disagree, I know some people who really don't listen to music at all. However, I don't know anyone who doesn't use language every day, unless they're mute, and even then they can use sign language.

i bet those ppl u mention that dont listen to music have listened to it or
listen to it when they go to events naturally in life. music cant be avoided
anywhere. unless you dont go to company parties, weddings, graduation
parties, retirement parties, birthday parties, and so on. you get the picture.

just brew it! wrote:

Let's turn this around. Ask yourself what the world would be like if we only had music, and no language.

you must be running out of material to use, cuz what you ask doesnt make
sense. music without language is like paper without pencil. a car without
gas, mt dew without the caffeine, sex without intercourse, and so on...

thegleek wrote:

Hawkwing74 wrote:

I disagree, I know some people who really don't listen to music at all. However, I don't know anyone who doesn't use language every day, unless they're mute, and even then they can use sign language.

i bet those ppl u mention that dont listen to music have listened to it or
listen to it when they go to events naturally in life. music cant be avoided
anywhere. unless you dont go to company parties, weddings, graduation
parties, retirement parties, birthday parties, and so on. you get the picture.

They may encounter music but they don't seek it out and certainly don't appreciate it.

thegleek wrote:

you must be running out of material to use, cuz what you ask doesnt make sense. music without language is like paper without pencil. a car without
gas, mt dew without the caffeine, sex without intercourse, and so on...

You are right. Music is dependent on language.

Hawkwing74 wrote:

They may encounter music but they don't seek it out and certainly don't appreciate it.

give me a break. i would deathly hate to have friends like that. i couldnt
even imagine it.

thegleek wrote:

AntiMagicMan wrote:

What? That is the craziest thing i've heard in a long time, and i've heard some rather crazy things.

nope. i firmly stand by my statement.

AntiMagicMan wrote:

Language is life. Our entire society and the world's cultures are based on it.

Language and writing are the means by which civilised society begun, where on earth did you get music from??

from here: http://www.geocities.com/viennaonline/ai/ai0801.html

ask yerself how the world would be a better place if it only had language
and no music. i'm talking back in the roman days, the classical days,
all times basically.

and i'll say it again: music is life

thank u

WHAT? WHAT?

Ok, I'm not going to pretend I understood that because I don't. What exactly are you trying to say, that back in the roman days there was no language? And when exactly are these classical times?

Music is not life, not on a biological or cultural level. Stop talking crap.

And why on earth should I ask myself if life would be better if there was only language, that whole question is wrong on so many levels.

AntiMagicMan wrote:

WHAT? WHAT?

Ok, I'm not going to pretend I understood that because I don't. What exactly are you trying to say, that back in the roman days there was no language? And when exactly are these classical times?

no yer misinterpreting my posts...

back then, when the romans were, they loved music and it was a big
part of their culture.

classical times is the era of beethoven, bach, mozart,
ravi shanker, chopin, and more...

AntiMagicMan wrote:

Music is not life, not on a biological or cultural level. Stop talking crap.

And why on earth should I ask myself if life would be better if there was only language, that whole question is wrong on so many levels.

again yer reading into this stuff too much. one doesnt NEED music to
live, i was just saying life IS music. that is all.

heavy HEAVY HEAVY! Rock and Metal and variating forms therein.

1)Spineshank (heavy industiral metal) "Malnutrition" or "Violent moodswings"
2)Ill Nino (spanish/american metal) "If you still hate me" or "no murder"
3)Breaking Benjamin (rock/hard rock) "shallow bay" or "polyamerous"
4)The Used "Choke me" or "Taste of ink"


The louder, heavier, and more furious it is, the more I like it Rock on!

pete_roth wrote:

2)Ill Nino (spanish/american metal) "If you still hate me" or "no murder"

The louder, heavier, and more furious it is, the more I like it Rock on!

u ever give a spanish group "Cafe Tacuba" a listen? they are like the
spanish equivelant of the red hot chili peppers.

Ok.

For the first 17 years of my life I didn't really like music at all, it is only in the past year that I have started listening to music regularly. And I don't like much new stuff.

thegleek wrote:

you must be running out of material to use, cuz what you ask doesnt make sense. music without language is like paper without pencil. a car without gas, mt dew without the caffeine, sex without intercourse, and so on...

So according to you, instrumental music is meaningless? Music without vocals is independent of language. Unless you consider music itself (irrespective of whether it has words or not) to be a form of language... then I might agree with you.

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just brew it! wrote:

So according to you, instrumental music is meaningless? Music without vocals is independent of language. Unless you consider music itself (irrespective of whether it has works or not) to be a form of language... then I might agree with you.

haha u ppl keep trying to catch me offguard with my wordings...

OF COURSE music exists without language! yipes!

i LOVE instrumentals.

thegleek wrote:

music without language is like paper without pencil. a car withoutgas, mt dew without the caffeine, sex without intercourse, and so on...

...

OF COURSE music exists without language! yipes!

i LOVE instrumentals.

Umm... I must be completely missing the point of what you're trying to say then, because the above two statements appear to be contradictory.

*whispers* If we ignore him he may go away.

No offence your gleekness but you are confusing and scary, please make your point clear, is life music or music life and what exactly does that mean in REAL english?

Maybe he just wanted to post a provocative statement to jerk our chains

Ha....provacative....yeah...RITE He hasnt had it in so long...me thinks he forgot what it was

Well, not to get involved in the philosophical discussion that's going on regarding music being life, I definitely rely on music. Though it seems we've had this topic come up before, I listen to all kindsa of stuff:

Dave Matthews Band
Fiona Apple
Zwan/Smashing Pumpkins
Jack Johnson
Ben Folds Five
Incubus
Tori Amos
Beck
Filter
Chemical Bros

others

And stuff from what TheGleek called "classical times." You know, Baroque, Classical, Romantic; heck even Comtemporary stuff, if it's not too New Age.

just brew it! wrote:

thegleek wrote:

ask yerself how the world would be a better place if it only had language and no music. i'm talking back in the roman days, the classical days, all times basically.

and i'll say it again: music is life

thank u

Let's turn this around. Ask yourself what the world would be like if we only had music, and no language.

Oh no .. everybody would start to sing

just brew it! wrote:

Let's turn this around. Ask yourself what the world would be like if we only had music, and no language.

lol then the world would be one big bollywood movie that never ends.

and isn't tower record's slogan: "no music, no life"

therefore without music, you cannot live

anyways, i listen to the same stuff andurin listens to, rock/alternative rock mainly and a couple others

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.:: synthpop ::.
Icon Of Coil - The Soul Is In The Software
DeVision - Devolution
Ivory Frequency - Plug-In
Iris - Disconnected
Seabound - No Sleep Demon
T.O.Y. - White Lights
VNV Nation - Futureperfect
Syrian - Desynchronized
Apoptygma Berzerk - The Singles Collection

.:: darkwave / ebm / all other industrial ::.
Diorama - Her Liquid Arms
Stromkern - Dammerung Im Traum
S.I.T.D. - Stronghold
Wumpscut - Bunkertor 7
Hanzel Und Gretyl - Ausgeflippt
Hanzel Und Gretyl - Transmissions From Uranis
NIN - Pretty Hate Machine
Pop Will Eat Itself - Dos Dedos Mis Amigos

.:: old school industrial ::.
Fad Gadget - Gag
Frank Tovey (aka Fad Gadget) - The Fad Gadget Singles

.:: spanish/latino ::.
Lhasa - La Llorona
DLG - Gotcha!
Lucecita Benitez - (anything, her **** is rare to find on cd anywhere)

.:: india ::.
Rhythm (tamil soundtrack)
Bally Sagoo - Anything But Silent

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bout it for now, i can continue on with **** more in different
genres (rock, top40, rap, techno/trance, alternative, etc...) but this
should be fine for now...