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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:11 am

The best rush hour has consistently been st Louis. The only problem there, if someone gets a flat tire, they'll shut down 2 or 3 Lanes out of 5 for it, no exaggeration.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:20 am

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For me there has to be an IKEA less than an hour away. :p

My closest IKEA is in another country.

Would you get hit with import fees from Canada?

I haven't so far.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:22 am

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The best rush hour has consistently been st Louis. The only problem there, if someone gets a flat tire, they'll shut down 2 or 3 Lanes out of 5 for it, no exaggeration.

And there is ALWAYS somebody on either I-255 or I-270 with a broken-down car.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:23 am

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Weve had a terminal in various parts of Indianapolis for a while. As far as cities go, it probably rates a B- on rush hour congestion compared to Dallas, ny City, Chicago all getting a F
Because it is such a transportation hub, I've heard the intentional layout of various highways and rail lines makes it travel better than most for it's size.
It's also flat with no major rivers. For example, the population numbers are similar to Seattle, but Seattle proper is sandwiched between Puget Sound and Lake Washington, and when you get too far East you run into mountains and forests. Makes for a beautiful city, but getting around is a nightmare.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:35 am

The I-465 beltway probably helps quite a bit with mitigating gridlock in Indy.

Unfortunately for Chicago, geography makes a beltway impossible so a lot of traffic ends up funneling through the city center on I-90/I-94/I-290/I-55. And then there's the "Hillside Strangler" interchange just to the west of the city, where I-290, I-294, and I-88 all intersect... the ramps were reconfigured in the early 2000s so the traffic in that area is now merely awful, as opposed to the near-24x7 raging dumpster fire it was previously.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:44 am

hey at least we all don't live in LA, right?

(traffic in LA truly is something to behold. it's so, so bad)
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:05 pm

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Unfortunately for Chicago, geography makes a beltway impossible so a lot of traffic ends up funneling through the city center on I-90/I-94/I-290/I-55. And then there's the "Hillside Strangler" interchange just to the west of the city, where I-290, I-294, and I-88 all intersect... the ramps were reconfigured in the early 2000s so the traffic in that area is now merely awful, as opposed to the near-24x7 raging dumpster fire it was previously.

Thankfully I wasn't doing much expressway driving back then. Nowadays, the worst stretch seems to be 90/94 from the circle out until 294. I generally just completely avoid it, but I'm not sure what the deal is there, or why they haven't been able to figure out a solution.
 
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:08 pm

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Thankfully I wasn't doing much expressway driving back then. Nowadays, the worst stretch seems to be 90/94 from the circle out until 294. I generally just completely avoid it, but I'm not sure what the deal is there, or why they haven't been able to figure out a solution.

2+ million people will do that.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:25 pm

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Thankfully I wasn't doing much expressway driving back then. Nowadays, the worst stretch seems to be 90/94 from the circle out until 294. I generally just completely avoid it, but I'm not sure what the deal is there, or why they haven't been able to figure out a solution.

2+ million people will do that.

It's basically hemmed in on both sides for the vast majority of that stretch. Can't really make it any wider than it is.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:41 pm

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2+ million people will do that.
It's basically hemmed in on both sides for the vast majority of that stretch. Can't really make it any wider than it is.
Even if they could, it wouldn't help. Building wider roads to fix traffic jams doesn't work.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:00 pm

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2+ million people will do that.

It's basically hemmed in on both sides for the vast majority of that stretch. Can't really make it any wider than it is.

Even if they could, it wouldn't help. Building wider roads to fix traffic jams doesn't work.

Yeah, even the fix for the "Hillside Strangler" I mentioned above suffered from that effect to some extent. While it did make the interchange in question better, it also caused an increase in congestion to the east along I-290.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:42 pm

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just brew it! wrote:
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2+ million people will do that.
It's basically hemmed in on both sides for the vast majority of that stretch. Can't really make it any wider than it is.
Even if they could, it wouldn't help. Building wider roads to fix traffic jams doesn't work.

I disagree with the logic in those studies. If adding lanes doesn't improve traffic, then the inverse should be true --- that reducing lanes doesn't make traffic worse. The reality is that lack of bandwidth on an expressway simply pushes the traffic burden onto the adjacent surface streets (or possibly other nearby expressways). If they just look at a single expressway in a vacuum and say "We increased capacity by 11 percent, and traffic subsequently increased by 11 percent, therefore it didn't help", they're missing the big picture. Traffic was relieved from other areas, and they also likely still aren't meeting demand.
 
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:56 pm

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just brew it! wrote:
It's basically hemmed in on both sides for the vast majority of that stretch. Can't really make it any wider than it is.
Even if they could, it wouldn't help. Building wider roads to fix traffic jams doesn't work.

I disagree with the logic in those studies. If adding lanes doesn't improve traffic, then the inverse should be true --- that reducing lanes doesn't make traffic worse.

The article does touch on that.

The Egg wrote:
The reality is that lack of bandwidth on an expressway simply pushes the traffic burden onto the adjacent surface streets (or possibly other nearby expressways). If they just look at a single expressway in a vacuum and say "We increased capacity by 11 percent, and traffic subsequently increased by 11 percent, therefore it didn't help", they're missing the big picture. Traffic was relieved from other areas, and they also likely still aren't meeting demand.

Part of the article's point is that demand tends to increase in step with capacity though. So you're never going to "meet" demand, since more people will pile on until the pain level again reaches a point where people find alternatives.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:16 pm

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I disagree with the logic in those studies. If adding lanes doesn't improve traffic, then the inverse should be true --- that reducing lanes doesn't make traffic worse. The reality is that lack of bandwidth on an expressway simply pushes the traffic burden onto the adjacent surface streets (or possibly other nearby expressways).
You might want to take a closer look at the article, because they do address this:

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Interestingly, the effect works in reverse, too. Whenever some city proposes taking lanes away from a road, residents scream that they’re going to create a huge traffic snarl. But the data shows that nothing truly terrible happens. The amount of traffic on the road simply readjusts and overall congestion doesn’t really increase.
For instance, Paris in recent decades has had a persistent policy to dramatically downsize and reduce roadways. “Driving in Paris was bad before,” said Duranton. “It’s just as bad, but it’s not much worse.”
And this does make sense if you've been reading the DYMT responses to traffic. We've got plenty of people talking about how they don't like traffic, so if they perceive an area to be a mess, they are much more likely to avoid it entirely, keeping the demand in line with supply.

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If they just look at a single expressway in a vacuum and say "We increased capacity by 11 percent, and traffic subsequently increased by 11 percent, therefore it didn't help", they're missing the big picture. Traffic was relieved from other areas, and they also likely still aren't meeting demand.
I think what's really being said is that is that increasing a road's capacity to serve the existing traffic need is flawed logic because it assumes that no new drivers will be added to the equation. In order to get the desired effect, you have to increase the capacity of the road while simultaneously preventing additional drivers from using it. That would reduce congestion (because the demand says constant while supply increases), but it's not been the practice.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:24 pm

IMHO, adding lanes doesn’t help with general traffic, but when there’s a wreck it is less congestive. I’d if 2 of 3 lanes is blocked that is worse than 2 of 4 lanes.
 
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:58 pm

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https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4485197/windows-10-mobile-end-of-support-faq

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How tragic, does that mean that Windows 10 will follow suit? Microsoft needs that juicy Windows division revenue.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:29 pm

That's gotta be the dumbest question you could possibly ask.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:42 pm

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That's gotta be the dumbest question you could possibly ask.

We need to work on your people skills, Daria.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:44 pm

ludi wrote:
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That's gotta be the dumbest question you could possibly ask.
We need to work on your people skills, Daria.

Daria?
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:51 pm

ludi wrote:
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That's gotta be the dumbest question you could possibly ask.

We need to work on your people skills, Daria.

My people skills are fine usually. :D

Also, somebody suggest a dumber question related to this topic and I'll withdraw the statement.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:31 pm

derFunkenstein wrote:
ludi wrote:
derFunkenstein wrote:
That's gotta be the dumbest question you could possibly ask.

We need to work on your people skills, Daria.

My people skills are fine usually. :D

Also, somebody suggest a dumber question related to this topic and I'll withdraw the statement.


I actually tried but you might be right about this.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:08 pm

Just incase you want to see two trucks high five. This was at the baltimore maryland ports. As usual, you can tell it's my video by the reflection of many drones in the windshield.

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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:16 pm

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ludi wrote:
derFunkenstein wrote:
That's gotta be the dumbest question you could possibly ask.
We need to work on your people skills, Daria.

Daria?

It was a reference I knew he was old enough to pick up.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:37 pm

I think all the regulars (Ben and myself included since we're the "young" ones) are old enough to remember Daria!
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:23 pm

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Just incase you want to see two trucks high five. This was at the baltimore maryland ports. As usual, you can tell it's my video by the reflection of many drones in th

We hate shipping out of Baltimore.
 
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:31 pm

Usacomp2k3 wrote:
Heiwashin wrote:
Just incase you want to see two trucks high five. This was at the baltimore maryland ports. As usual, you can tell it's my video by the reflection of many drones in th

We hate shipping out of Baltimore.

All of the ports are terrible for various reasons. I'm not a fan either but we send a lot of stuff overseas.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:10 pm

I'm getting into my thermostat for my thermo electric cooler, and i can't help but take pride in my organization and wire handling skills. For your consideration. :wink:

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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:16 pm

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I think all the regulars (Ben and myself included since we're the "young" ones) are old enough to remember Daria!

I KNOW Daria, but she wasn't really my thing. By the time it aired, I was out of high school and into things like underage drinking and playing four-player Goldeneye (usually whilst underage drinking). I wasn't watching much TV at the time.

My sister, OTOH, was still in high school when it debuted and loved it.
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Re: DYMT: Imi's Legacy

Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:39 pm

Heiwashin wrote:
Usacomp2k3 wrote:
Heiwashin wrote:
Just incase you want to see two trucks high five. This was at the baltimore maryland ports. As usual, you can tell it's my video by the reflection of many drones in th

We hate shipping out of Baltimore.

All of the ports are terrible for various reasons. I'm not a fan either but we send a lot of stuff overseas.

80% of what we control goes out of Savannah or Jacksonville. A little bit else to Charleston. We’re banned from Miami for whatever reason.

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