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Looking for Knowledge wrote:When drunk.....
I want to have sex, but find I am more likely to be shot down than when I am sober.
Looking for Knowledge wrote:When drunk.....
I want to have sex, but find I am more likely to be shot down than when I am sober.
just brew it! wrote:My excuse is I work with a guy who always wants to go out for burgers or pizza for lunch. I keep meaning to start packing a lunch more frequently, but that takes actual planning and effort.
derFunkenstein wrote:I love the way shipping companies work. Especially FedEx. Nobody else can ship a package from St. Louis to Peoria (roughly 3 hours by car) in four days. But Fed Ex can do it.
Everyone else can do it in 24 hours.
screenshot from their hilarious website: https://twitter.com/TVsBen/status/892762120470896640
derFunkenstein wrote:just brew it! wrote:My excuse is I work with a guy who always wants to go out for burgers or pizza for lunch. I keep meaning to start packing a lunch more frequently, but that takes actual planning and effort.
I work from home. The only guy in my office who wants to go out for lunch is this guy Ben who is too f***ing lazy to make a sandwich.
derFunkenstein wrote:I love the way shipping companies work. Especially FedEx. Nobody else can ship a package from St. Louis to Peoria (roughly 3 hours by car) in four days. But Fed Ex can do it.
Everyone else can do it in 24 hours.
screenshot from their hilarious website: https://twitter.com/TVsBen/status/892762120470896640
just brew it! wrote:When I worked at Fermilab, it took a week to overnight a package. Seriously.
just brew it! wrote:So I brought lunch today. What did I bring? Half of a really large burger. Why? Because it was leftover from dinner yesterday and all I had to do to "prepare" it was stuff it in a Ziploc bag.
Redocbew wrote:I always figured they had some schedule designed to optimize fuel efficiency or something, but the last "package" where that happened was ~80 pounds of hardwood that I bought for shop projects. I would think that would rank pretty high up on the list of things you'd want to offload quickly.
farmpuma wrote:I would expect eighty pounds of hardwood to be at the bottom of most any stack of boxes of stuff.
derFunkenstein wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YrpmZFixp0Less squishing of stuff marked fragile.
Kougar wrote:Dunno where to stick this. Just read about it http://jalopnik.com/photos-show-just-ho ... 1797505352
An Air Canada flight came within 59 feet of creating an event that would have eclipsed the Tenerife airline disaster. Not sure I want to know how many feet it came within of clipping the tail of that second jet on the taxiway....
"The NTSB said that investigators don’t have access to the plane’s cockpit voice recorder, as it had been overwritten during the next flight. Recorders only capture the last two hours of flying, according to The Associated Press."
Looking for Knowledge wrote:When drunk.....
I want to have sex, but find I am more likely to be shot down than when I am sober.
Heiwashin wrote:I'm in the target the process not the people boat. People can be expected to act normally, like trying to protect your job. Develop a process that accounts for that, especially these days with the power of tech. Exactly why is the voice recorder overwritten every two hours. Does it use a floppy disk? I keep McDonald's receipts longer than two hours, but in flight communication, 2 hours A-okay.
The Egg wrote:Totally inexcusable. The fact that 500+ deaths were barely avoided doesn't make it any less severe of an incident, because it could have just as easily gone the other way. Multiple people should be losing their jobs over the voice recorder alone, IMO.
NTSB wrote:On July 7, 2017, about 2356 Pacific daylight time (PDT), Air Canada flight 759 (ACA759), an Airbus A320, C-FKCK, was cleared to land on runway 28R at San Francisco International Airport (SFO)
NTSB wrote:The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) was notified of the incident on Sunday, July 9, and initiated an investigation
Glorious wrote:The Egg wrote:Totally inexcusable. The fact that 500+ deaths were barely avoided doesn't make it any less severe of an incident, because it could have just as easily gone the other way. Multiple people should be losing their jobs over the voice recorder alone, IMO.
Absolute nonsense. It is entirely excusable.
CVRs have 2 hours of buffer, by federal law/regulation: If they aren't deactivated, they -will- be overwritten. Thus they aren't meant to provide a complete record of conversation during a flight, they are solely intended to provide a record up/until some terminal event.
Thus, unless they landed the plane immediately, turned off the power(!!) and deactivated/removed the CVR, it's going to get overwritten.
And, if the NTSB isn't notified until 2 days later and the Plane is doing normal turn-arounds, yeah, of course it's gone. How could it be otherwise?
https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Pag ... IA148.aspxNTSB wrote:On July 7, 2017, about 2356 Pacific daylight time (PDT), Air Canada flight 759 (ACA759), an Airbus A320, C-FKCK, was cleared to land on runway 28R at San Francisco International Airport (SFO)NTSB wrote:The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) was notified of the incident on Sunday, July 9, and initiated an investigation
It's gone.
Please. Tell me who you think should be fired.
The Egg wrote:This is essentially a 500+ death incident, with the only difference being a few extra seconds and the very last maneuver. Considering the severity of the incident, everything should have been halted, the plane grounded, and the data collected immediately. Whoever allowed the plane to continue flying with the knowledge that the voice recorder would be overwritten should be fired (the pilots were certainly aware, at the very least), as well as everyone involved in taking 2 days to report the incident.
ludi wrote:What do you even think would be on the voice recorder? "Allahu Akbar! -- no, wait, McRib is back, maybe next month"?
If all reporting procedures were followed correctly, and it appears that they were, then maybe the process needs to be revised when near-miss incidents take place; but punishing people for following the process? What?
The Egg wrote:How do you know everything was followed correctly?
The Egg wrote:There's usually multiple failure points in any aviation accident. By the time they're yelling "Oh s**t" it's already too late, but listening to the 17 steps before that and determining where the miscommunication/error(s) occurred could certainly be helpful.
The Egg wrote:This is essentially a 500+ death incident, with the only difference being a few extra seconds and the very last maneuver. Considering the severity of the incident, everything should have been halted, the plane grounded, and the data collected immediately.
The Egg wrote:Whoever allowed the plane to continue flying with the knowledge that the voice recorder would be overwritten should be fired (the pilots were certainly aware, at the very least), as well as everyone involved in taking 2 days to report the incident.