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tanker27 wrote:

If Krennic ends up being Rey's releative I am gonna be one pissed off fan.

I am sure as ...... that Rey is a Kennobi.

trackerben wrote:

There's no Hollywood reason why such a self-contained vault could not have withstood a waterborne tsunami as opposed to ground shock waves, submerged or even floated like the ships that washed ashore after Japan's Fukushima disaster.

kvndoom wrote:

trackerben wrote:

There's no Hollywood reason why such a self-contained vault could not have withstood a waterborne tsunami as opposed to ground shock waves, submerged or even floated like the ships that washed ashore after Japan's Fukushima disaster.

All Indiana Jones needed was a fridge.  For the love of FSM, I hope they don't dare to go there.

NTMBK wrote:

I present to you the Mk1 Imperial Apocalypse Survival Suit. 

NTMBK wrote:

I present to you the Mk1 Imperial Apocalypse Survival Suit.

Hawkwing74 wrote:

To Tanker...who did Obi Wan get his groove on with? Or is this some other Kenobi parent?

superjawes wrote:

Would those same archives have weeks/months worth of food, water, and breathable air for Krennic to survive the excavation? And while we're at it, WHO would be doing said excavation? (It wouldn't be sympathetic rebels.)

Uncle Owen has a better chance of being Snoke...

...Also, it would be thematically out of touch for any key character to make it from Rogue One to The Force Awakens (or beyond).

trackerben wrote:

Who might be watching the DS development site, ready to exploit it after the battle? Two groups are possible. Vader/Palpatine, because they found Krennic useful and would each have the ability to sense him at a distance. The other would be Snoke and his Imperial agents, of course.

trackerben wrote:

...Also, it would be thematically out of touch for any key character to make it from Rogue One to The Force Awakens (or beyond).

Aside from a two droids, a princess, and a rebel pilot who downed a death star, you mean?

Captain Ned wrote:

superjawes wrote:

You mean Darth "I will force choke you to remind you of your place" Vader?

And the site of the final battle was the Imperial Archives, not the development site. That makes it more obscure and more removed from the "main storyline" action that runs through the SW franchise. Snoke is clearly more interested in getting a strong Force user than he is picking up the dude who could get swept aside by Tarin. And if Krennic did have Force connections, Vader(/Palpatine) would have taken interest in him, too (if only to eliminate him)...

...Also, it would be thematically out of touch for any key character to make it from Rogue One to The Force Awakens (or beyond).
*Key* characters. There were plenty of nods to characters who would end up in A New Hope, but the main players in Rogue One died violently because the story really is about the boots on the ground war. EVERY member of Rogue One died to complete the mission. The Empire nuked the site as part of the cover-up, killing their own troops in the process. The cause survives. The people do not.

trackerben wrote:

Yea, Vader, whom Krennic felt he had enough influence with to go visit.

Captain Ned wrote:

Can't remember where I first saw it online, but Rogue One is essentially a space battle version of Where Eagles Dare.

Broadsword calling Danny Boy, Broadsword calling Danny Boy, come in please.

...I've said it before but will again. Did we watch the same movie?? Krennic didn't "visit" Vader on his own initiative, he was commanded to appear.

Redocbew wrote:

There isn't much that an evil, megalomaniacal, Imperial director would care about other than their own future prospects.  Aside from being choked to death by someone even more evil, that is.

Redocbew wrote:

"I am tired of these motherfracking Siths on this motherfracking plane."

Scorpiuscat wrote:

"Its the one that says Bad-Mother-F****** on it!"

tanker27 wrote:

Another reason or clue why I think Rey is a Kennobi is that they just brought back Obi Wan in Rebels this season which, if I am right, will fill the 30 year gap in his timeline. Between Clone Wars and Rebels there's been a lot of backstory on Obi Wan. There's a reason for it.

superjawes wrote:

tanker27 wrote:

Another reason or clue why I think Rey is a Kennobi is that they just brought back Obi Wan in Rebels this season which, if I am right, will fill the 30 year gap in his timeline. Between Clone Wars and Rebels there's been a lot of backstory on Obi Wan. There's a reason for it.

You mean in addition to his general awesome-ness?

Hey, don't we have a Force Awakens thread? Might that be a better place for this discussion? We also have Episode VIII on the schedule for this year, so we could start a speculation thread for that movie...

trackerben wrote:

"The archives" was probably a cover story for the secret construction program. The true nature of the building was described when Tarkin called it out to targeting as the Citadel. Parts of Scarif were surrounded by a force field in similar fashion to the one surrounding the DS2 Endor site, which also featured a humongous dish tower. If Scarif was obscure before, it sure isn't now.

Rebel on command bridge: We're detecting a massive object emerging from hyperspace!

*scene cut to Death Star over Scarif*

DS Adjutant: Sir, shall I begin targeting their fleet? 
Tarkin: Lord Vader will handle the fleet. Target the base at Scarif, single reactor ignition.

*back to Jen and Cassian on the planet, staggering out of a doorway*

Forge wrote:

'...The archives" may be a modernization/change of the old Imperial Archives on Coruscant, which were always treated as a Empire-scale Library of Congress (everything is in there, no matter how obscure, but access isn't free/commonly given, and finding things without hiring an expert guide is very, very difficult)...

...The Citadel is a specific reference to the central spire, as opposed to the outlying landing pads and bunkers. Regardless, the word "citadel" does not occur. Pulled up my copy to verify....

...Also, "parts" of Scarif were not surrounded by a field, the whole planet was, and the DS2 Endor site was not shielded, the DS2 ITSELF was. The shield *generators* were on Endor's Forest Moon (Endor is the big gas giant).

Scarif being obscure or not means nothing, IMO.

trackerben wrote:

Forge wrote:

...Also, "parts" of Scarif were not surrounded by a field, the whole planet was, and the DS2 Endor site was not shielded, the DS2 ITSELF was. The shield *generators* were on Endor's Forest Moon (Endor is the big gas giant).

Scarif being obscure or not means nothing, IMO.

I was certain that the DS2 and its shield generator were the only parts of that development that were shielded. That generator complex certainly was. It's why the rebels walked in Solo's team to blow it instead of the usual X/Y-bomber squadron flying in to blast stuff.

Not knowing more about Sharif's shielding, I limited speculation to just "parts" of it as well. One thing's for sure, it's no longer obscure.

Forge wrote:

I'd have to review my copies of all the relevant movies to be sure, but I believe the purpose of a small scale ground strike against the shield generator in ROTJ was to avoid alerting the Empire before the shield dropped, but that all turned out to be so much nonsense anyways. The Imperial Navy was on hand to do the heavy lifting as always, and those Army twats bungled everything yet again. </in-universe.sarcasm>

Forge wrote:

...Second DS didn't have it's shielding operational yet, was basically a half-done shell, with the superlaser getting 95% of the work focus. That's why it needed to be shielded from the Forest Moon. The Forest Moon shield was much more comprehensive, if you watch closely some fighters run into it and are instantly destroyed in ROTJ. Very different setup. The diagram of the shield being projected showed a pretty big base of the funnel on the Forest Moon too, it might have gone out far enough from the emitter to make ground striking fighters unusable...