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Usacomp2k3 wrote:Or a Future where Rian Johnson didn't make a crappy movie?
Usacomp2k3 wrote:Or a Future where Rian Johnson didn't make a crappy movie?
tanker27 wrote:Rebels ended last night and it was everything I wanted and more. Oh how I want so much more. It was a masterpiece! The SW Universe should be Dave Filoni all the time. He gets it! His story telling is really top notch more than that trash that Rian Johnson tried to pass off.
Now to wait for the next SW animated series, which has been announced, but no clue as to what its going to be.
The never-ending multiplier of storm troopers on the platau battle was particularly bad (..and reminded me a lot of the battles in Dragon Age 2.)G8torbyte wrote:tanker27 wrote:But what about that Solo teaser. Looks real good to me.
Yep, we need a fun Star Wars movie after that last episode. I like how people are linking the easter eggs Ron Howard may be putting in the movie with references to his history with George Lucas in American Graffiti which also starred Harrison Ford. And how Solo's speeder in the chase scene looks like a Ford Falcon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Graffiti
paulWTAMU wrote:Hell I agree with Luke that the Jedi, as they were, need to end. Given his character in the original trilogy, I actually think his retreating to hermithood made sense.
The one really bleh part for me was the casino planet. I kind of get what they were going for; funky plans of desperation don't always work out. But it just dragged
cphite wrote:paulWTAMU wrote:Hell I agree with Luke that the Jedi, as they were, need to end. Given his character in the original trilogy, I actually think his retreating to hermithood made sense.
I agree... and honestly, I don't see why so many people (including the actor) saw it as being out of character. He watched his own student - his nephew, no less - murder a bunch of people and become a frikkin' monster. It makes sense that he'd want no further part of that...
cphite wrote:The one really bleh part for me was the casino planet. I kind of get what they were going for; funky plans of desperation don't always work out. But it just dragged
That entire subplot could have been left out and and it'd have made no difference.
Usacomp2k3 wrote:cphite wrote:paulWTAMU wrote:Hell I agree with Luke that the Jedi, as they were, need to end. Given his character in the original trilogy, I actually think his retreating to hermithood made sense.
I agree... and honestly, I don't see why so many people (including the actor) saw it as being out of character. He watched his own student - his nephew, no less - murder a bunch of people and become a frikkin' monster. It makes sense that he'd want no further part of that...
But by running away, he guaranteed that no one was preventing future monster's. That's pretty out of character for Ep6 Luke.
The one really bleh part for me was the casino planet. I kind of get what they were going for; funky plans of desperation don't always work out. But it just dragged
That entire subplot could have been left out and and it'd have made no difference.
It would have made a difference...it would have been an improvement.
cphite wrote:One would have to ask Mark Hamill about it, but if he felt that Luke was "out of character", my guess is that he (Hamill) would have preferred a Luke who acted more like Yoda in his old age--the goofball Jedi Master. That's just my feeling looking at how Mark acts on Twitter (he has loads of fun), but he may still get that chance if he sticks around Star Wars.paulWTAMU wrote:I agree... and honestly, I don't see why so many people (including the actor) saw it as being out of character. He watched his own student - his nephew, no less - murder a bunch of people and become a frikkin' monster. It makes sense that he'd want no further part of that...Hell I agree with Luke that the Jedi, as they were, need to end. Given his character in the original trilogy, I actually think his retreating to hermithood made sense.
cphite wrote:Usacomp2k3 wrote:cphite wrote:I agree... and honestly, I don't see why so many people (including the actor) saw it as being out of character. He watched his own student - his nephew, no less - murder a bunch of people and become a frikkin' monster. It makes sense that he'd want no further part of that...
But by running away, he guaranteed that no one was preventing future monster's. That's pretty out of character for Ep6 Luke.
Both Obi Wan and Yoda went into hiding instead of confronting what Vader became.
paulWTAMU wrote:I'm basing my statement about the Jedi needing to die on the portrayal of the council in the prequels than anything else; ineffectual, hypocritical, bloated. Yeah, it needed to go.
I think the prequels are still canon, but I could be wrong. But the Jedi Council from that was pretty crappy.
Judicator wrote:Obi Wan and Yoda didn't go to hide.
Obi Wan was watching over Luke from distance because Owen and Beru didn't want him around Luke.
Yoda went to Dagobah to preserve the jedi knowledge while telepathically keeping contact with the jedi who survived the order 66.
In this regard we actually don't know if Luke was the last jedi for sure: many were able to escape and hide in the coming years of the empire. After the Rian Johnson's masterpiece anyway, which retroactively alters the established canon in so different bad ways, everything is possible, sadly.
The movie is such a mess that trying to accurately and rationally explain every flaw, nonsense, error, bad writing, plot hole, poor writing choices, and contradiction would take too long. It is a poorly made movie firstly and A Star Wars one that has continuity flaws among the others.
cphite wrote:The movie is such a mess that trying to accurately and rationally explain every flaw, nonsense, error, bad writing, plot hole, poor writing choices, and contradiction would take too long. It is a poorly made movie firstly and A Star Wars one that has continuity flaws among the others.
Dude... the entire series is full of flaws, bad writing, and plot holes large enough to fly a Star Destroyer through. Including the original trilogy. You've gotta be willing to accept that if you're going to discuss them :b
Judicator wrote:
Who is really interested in an in depth analysis can take a look at Mauler's "Critique of Star Wars: The Last Jedi" videos, he goes scene by scene and points out most of the flaws in that stinking pile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw7pcCj0ORk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRC4L6lNoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFnMMzqjYGw
Hawkwing74 wrote:Judicator wrote:
Who is really interested in an in depth analysis can take a look at Mauler's "Critique of Star Wars: The Last Jedi" videos, he goes scene by scene and points out most of the flaws in that stinking pile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw7pcCj0ORk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRC4L6lNoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFnMMzqjYGw
I watched some of the first one (wow it's long). My wife and I thoroughly enjoyed his 30 minute rant on "The Last Jedi". I never thought there would be a Star Wars movie I wouldn't watch but that time has come.
I hope this guy makes money off Youtube because...really? You created 5+ hours of content detailing why a movie is terrible?
I agree with him on every point that I saw but wow, that's dedication.
tanker27 wrote:Time travel, yes I know its a over used plot device but SW EU rarely used it and only used it for very specific reasons. In the way Rebels served it up we hear voices, past, present, AND future! We hear Yoda, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Qui-Gon Jinn, Kanan Jarrus, Anakin Skywalker. But then we hear Obi-Wan Kenobi talking to Luke Skywalker, and then Princess Leia—voices from the future. (future from the Rebels timeline)
Then Rey! Yes, Rey! And Kylo Ren. Characters who won’t exist in this universe for decades!
Anyways for the time travel part, Ezra watches Ahsoka fight Darth Vader from Rebels two seasons ago, reaches back in time, and saves her from the falling debris that killed her (Now we know what her fate was when she faced her old master she didn't live until now!)
Officially my mind is blown as this sets up all kinds possibilities. I did however think they might be retconing something and if they are I do not know what it is.
