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steelcity_ballin wrote:There's no way that little amount killed him without a preexisting condition of some sort. The LD50 is like 80-100 cups of coffee. There's no way that as large diet soda, 1 energy drink, and 1 latte is even close to that.
steelcity_ballin wrote:There's no way that little amount killed him without a preexisting condition of some sort.
Looking for Knowledge wrote:When drunk.....
I want to have sex, but find I am more likely to be shot down than when I am sober.
Waco wrote:steelcity_ballin wrote:I was about to say the same thing - there was something else wrong for 500 mg to have caused death.There's no way that little amount killed him without a preexisting condition of some sort. The LD50 is like 80-100 cups of coffee. There's no way that as large diet soda, 1 energy drink, and 1 latte is even close to that.
Looking for Knowledge wrote:When drunk.....
I want to have sex, but find I am more likely to be shot down than when I am sober.
ludi wrote:"a large Mountain Dew, a McDonalds latte, and an energy drink"
The article isn't very clear on what a short period of time would be, but it sounds like he shotgunned the whole lot. I wonder if the coroner's findings accounted for the B-vitamin overdose in the energy drink?
Chrispy_ wrote:That was an existing heart condition that was over-stressed by an unusually large dose of caffeine, almost certain of that. You read about it all the time where someone who was young had an unexpected heart attack - school exams, sports, sex, even being scared to death in the movies.
Kid's diet was mountain dew, McDonalds and Energy drinks; Pretty sure diabetes & heart disease come with that territory.
I guess caffeine in higher doses is not completely risk free, but simply leaving your house every morning is more statistically dangerous.
Heiwashin wrote:It's simple really. It's very hot to take something that people deal with on a daily basis and link it to causing death. It draws viewers hard. And I've met a lot of people that feel they owe something to a radio show, tv show, site, etc., that offered crackpot advice about health because they feel it helped their life.
SoM wrote:i drink around 20 cups, should i slow down ? it's the only thing i drink
Captain Ned wrote:Waco wrote:steelcity_ballin wrote:I was about to say the same thing - there was something else wrong for 500 mg to have caused death.There's no way that little amount killed him without a preexisting condition of some sort. The LD50 is like 80-100 cups of coffee. There's no way that as large diet soda, 1 energy drink, and 1 latte is even close to that.
Read the article more closely. It wasn't the total dose, it was the rapidity with which it was consumed.
paulWTAMU wrote:There's *got* to be something else going on right?
Captain Ned wrote:paulWTAMU wrote:There's *got* to be something else going on right?
Short of a published autopsy report (not bloody likely) we'll never really know.
Waco wrote:Yep. But considering the amount isn't all that crazy, there has to be something.
Captain Ned wrote:Waco wrote:Yep. But considering the amount isn't all that crazy, there has to be something.
Whereas I focus not on the absolute blood level as the trigger, but the rate of rise of that blood level. Having a friend or two who work in the field, pharmacodynamics is far from a well-settled science. Since I doubt a 16YO has ever been on the EKG treadmill while drinking Dew and Energy shots, we're all just pissing in the wind, as will be the ME short of gross physical heart irregularities
whm1974 wrote:Just how much Vitamin B is there in energy drinks?
whm1974 wrote:Looks like I should have given this more thought before I created this thread.
ludi wrote:whm1974 wrote:Just how much Vitamin B is there in energy drinks?
You'll have to look up a particular brand if you want numbers, but B-vitamins are co-factors in cellular metabolism. Most energy drinks like to combine stimulants, sugar, and a large dose of B-vitamins to try and maximize the short term boost. B-vitamins are water soluble and can be excreted, but the short-term effects could be odd if a person was sensitive or already overdosed from consuming, say, energy drinks.
Chrispy_ wrote:Kid's diet was mountain dew, McDonalds and Energy drinks; Pretty sure diabetes & heart disease come with that territory.
whm1974 wrote:I know sugar alone will kill you if consume enough of it in one setting, in fact I have heard the LD50 of sugar is way lower then caffeine. Even for a healthy person.
JBI wrote:There's more than 15 grams of sugar in a single Snickers bar.
Glorious wrote:JBI wrote:There's more than 15 grams of sugar in a single Snickers bar.
There's more than that in a single can of Mountain Dew too. Like, a lot more than even a Snickers bar.
The amount of sugar in soda, particularly Mountain Dew, is staggering.
JBI wrote:just imagine that there are two entire Snickers bars' worth of sugar dissolved in every serving of Mountain Dew.