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TR System Guide

Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:48 pm

Now that Threadripper is out are we going to see a new System Guide. Have not seen one published since May 2017. Looking for current sweet spot advice from my favorite Computer Tech site. http://techreport.com/
 
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Re: TR System Guide

Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:17 pm

I'm all for an update but TR isn't going to go into a 'sweet spot' build, like, ever. The cheapest one, at $550 MSRP, is nearly twice the price of the current system guide's entry level enthusiast chip. About the only time I've seen them put HEDT hardware in the system guide is when they do that final purely-for-the-lulz option at the very end. And that one would go to Skylake-X since it's more ridiculous.

As for the hardware that does go into the guide, Ryzen is out now (and prominently represented), storage has been stagnant for years, and nobody's expecting anything big from Intel, AMD or Nvidia for a while so nothing major is gonna change.
 
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Re: TR System Guide

Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:24 pm

I'm sure The Tech Report staff can find a place somewhere in the next System Guide for a Threadripper build.
 
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Re: TR System Guide

Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:59 pm

Im still waiting on AMD's Zen level APUs.

Considering you need a $70 GTX 1030 for new-ish ports, to me that's actually $150-ish for RX 560 or GTX 1050 ti because paying $70 for just a port is a real nut kicker.
 
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Re: TR System Guide

Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:07 am

I think we'll have to wait for the $549 Threadripper to see it in an HEDT recommendation, and even then, maybe. Personally I'm in love with both PCIe and single-threaded performance with at least 4 cores, so HEDT is really not quite for me as a PC. Now as a VM host, I'm keeping an eager eye out for the 1900.
 
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Re: TR System Guide

Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:09 am

I wasn't expecting a Threadripper in the System Guide, unless they bring back the GOD box but I haven't seen that label in the System guide in quite a while. I was just contemplating a new build to replace my current I5-4590 and hoping they produce a new system guide soon.
 
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Re: TR System Guide

Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:01 am

scellio wrote:
I wasn't expecting a Threadripper in the System Guide, unless they bring back the GOD box but I haven't seen that label in the System guide in quite a while. I was just contemplating a new build to replace my current I5-4590 and hoping they produce a new system guide soon.

"God Box" is an Ars Technica system guide (just a random Ars guide, not the latest) name. Even in 2006 (which this one is the earliest I can find quickly) it was the "Double Stuff Workstation".
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Re: TR System Guide

Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:02 am

derFunkenstein wrote:
scellio wrote:
I wasn't expecting a Threadripper in the System Guide, unless they bring back the GOD box but I haven't seen that label in the System guide in quite a while. I was just contemplating a new build to replace my current I5-4590 and hoping they produce a new system guide soon.

"God Box" is an Ars Technica system guide (just a random Ars guide, not the latest) name. Even in 2006 (which this one is the earliest I can find quickly) it was the "Double Stuff Workstation".

And that just shows you how old I'm getting. As they say, the memory is the 1st thing to go.
 
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Re: TR System Guide

Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:01 am

MOSFET wrote:
I think we'll have to wait for the $549 Threadripper to see it in an HEDT recommendation, and even then, maybe. Personally I'm in love with both PCIe and single-threaded performance with at least 4 cores, so HEDT is really not quite for me as a PC. Now as a VM host, I'm keeping an eager eye out for the 1900.

Well I do think the TR 1920X does have a place in the System Guide, and I'm quite sure that some folks here can find a use for it. But yeah the 1900X does have a place as will even with only 8c/16t.
 
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Re: TR System Guide

Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:19 am

I expect that there are a small and shrinking set of niche applications for which the low-end 8-core CPUs of the SHED have an advantage over top processors from more maintream platforms. You've probably got a very specific set of requirements if Ryzen ThreadRipper 1900X meets your needs better than Ryzen 7 1800X or Ryzen ThreadRipper 1920X or even an EPYC 7000 series CPU does.
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Re: TR System Guide

Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:30 am

JustAnEngineer wrote:
I expect that there are a small and shrinking set of niche applications for which the low-end 8-core CPUs of the SHED have an advantage over top processors from more maintream platforms. You've probably got a very specific set of requirements if Ryzen ThreadRipper 1900X meets your needs better than Ryzen 7 1800X or Ryzen ThreadRipper 1920X or even an EPYC 7000 series CPU does.

Well the 60 PCIe lanes and quad channel memory features does come to mind.
 
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Re: TR System Guide

Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:30 pm

So when is the next System Guide? Not that I'm in a hurry to build a new rig, but I do enjoy read it.
 
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Re: TR System Guide

Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:36 pm

whm1974 wrote:
JustAnEngineer wrote:
You've probably got a very specific set of requirements if Ryzen ThreadRipper 1900X meets your needs better than Ryzen 7 1800X or Ryzen ThreadRipper 1920X or even an EPYC 7000 series CPU does.

Well the 60 PCIe lanes and quad channel memory features does come to mind.


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Re: TR System Guide

Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:13 pm

MileageMayVary wrote:
whm1974 wrote:
JustAnEngineer wrote:
You've probably got a very specific set of requirements if Ryzen ThreadRipper 1900X meets your needs better than Ryzen 7 1800X or Ryzen ThreadRipper 1920X or even an EPYC 7000 series CPU does.

Well the 60 PCIe lanes and quad channel memory features does come to mind.


Threadripper 1900: when you need more IO than cores!

I'm sure 8c/16t is plenty for most folks who do need lots of PCIe lanes for multiple GPUs, other add in cards, and many NVMe SSDs.

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