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SuperSpy wrote:I always chuckle when I go into a mechanic's shop or a small business and see a text-only screen (or even better yet, one wrapped by a VirtualBox window) and a tractor-feed invoice printer.
End User wrote:just brew it! wrote:Corporate users typically do not upgrade until official support ends. (And sometimes not even then.)
Does not change a thing. Windows 7 is ancient and as obsolete as the headphone jack or a manual transmission (and I ******* love manual transmissions).
jihadjoe wrote:All that old stuff running on DOS with no network stack is probably more secure now than many newer systems. Will likely outlast any current OS too.
just brew it! wrote:Tape still has many years of relevancy ahead of it, IMO... speaking of tech that has been proclaimed obsolete many times, and yet has managed to survive.
End User wrote:just brew it! wrote:Corporate users typically do not upgrade until official support ends. (And sometimes not even then.)
Does not change a thing. Windows 7 is ancient and as obsolete as the headphone jack or a manual transmission (and I ******* love manual transmissions).
K-L-Waster wrote:'cus... shiny!!
Usacomp2k3 wrote:just brew it! wrote:Tape still has many years of relevancy ahead of it, IMO... speaking of tech that has been proclaimed obsolete many times, and yet has managed to survive.
I attribute much of that to the some-what surprising lack of shelf-life of flash media.
Kougar wrote:jihadjoe wrote:All that old stuff running on DOS with no network stack is probably more secure now than many newer systems. Will likely outlast any current OS too.
Yeah. Floppies mentioned in the original post may be horribly obsolete, but nobody on the internet is going to be able to steal the data off those with them sitting on the shelf.
Aranarth wrote:I was in a manufacturing plant and there was a huge IBM tower in the middle of a room with 200+ cables running to it.
I asked if it was a minicomputer cause it looked OLD.
Was told it was not a computer but a PLC! (programmable logic controller)
It had 48kb of "ram" in the form of programmable registers and this in turn controlled conveyor belts etc on the manufacturing floor.
I think the machine was built in the late 1950's.
Arvald wrote:Aranarth wrote:I was in a manufacturing plant and there was a huge IBM tower in the middle of a room with 200+ cables running to it.
I asked if it was a minicomputer cause it looked OLD.
Was told it was not a computer but a PLC! (programmable logic controller)
It had 48kb of "ram" in the form of programmable registers and this in turn controlled conveyor belts etc on the manufacturing floor.
I think the machine was built in the late 1950's.
PLCs are much smaller now but still tend to have low ram compared to a PC.
just brew it! wrote:Arvald wrote:Aranarth wrote:I was in a manufacturing plant and there was a huge IBM tower in the middle of a room with 200+ cables running to it.
I asked if it was a minicomputer cause it looked OLD.
Was told it was not a computer but a PLC! (programmable logic controller)
It had 48kb of "ram" in the form of programmable registers and this in turn controlled conveyor belts etc on the manufacturing floor.
I think the machine was built in the late 1950's.
PLCs are much smaller now but still tend to have low ram compared to a PC.
Still gotta be big enough to connect the 200+ cables to it though!
Chrispy_ wrote:So many lecture theatres, auditoriums, conference suites and other meeting spaces still provide a D-SUB VGA cable to an 800x600 or 1024x768 projector.
Krogoth wrote:Microsoft's bread and butter has always been SMB and Enterprise markets. They lost the mainstream market to Apple years ago.
End User wrote:Say goodbye to the Enterprise
"GE will standardize on iPhone and iPad for mobile devices and also promote Mac as a choice for its global workforce of more than 330,000 employees."
End User wrote:USB 3.1 Gen 1 in the new Surface Book 2
Concupiscence wrote:I always beat this drum because it's always true: lab environments are a source of endless retro tech. A decade ago a firm I worked for had an emission spectrometer that ran all its software from a 5.25" floppy disk. Lots of electron microscopes in the real world rely on controller boards never updated to work past 32-bit Windows XP; while virtualization's probably becoming feasible at this point, in the old days your best bet was to grab up as much XP-compatible hardware as you could lay hands on and swap in parts when old hardware gave out. That doesn't even touch on the fun and magic of *really* old kit, like the ground-penetrating radar setup that ran in MS-DOS at my university, or the endless parade of RS-232 devices operating for the past 30+ years with no end in sight...
End User wrote:USB 3.1 Gen 1 in the new Surface Book 2
K-L-Waster wrote:End User wrote:USB 3.1 Gen 1 in the new Surface Book 2
Now you're definitely trolling.
Vhalidictes wrote:End User wrote:USB 3.1 Gen 1 in the new Surface Book 2
I really don't understand this terminology. Wouldn't it be simpler and more accurate to refer to these ports as "USB 3.0"?
Glorious wrote:End User wrote:Say goodbye to the Enterprise
"GE will standardize on iPhone and iPad for mobile devices and also promote Mac as a choice for its global workforce of more than 330,000 employees."
Yeah, OK. See, I don't deal with Predix, but I do routinely deal with its direct competitors and you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
"promote Mac as choice" = You need MacOS to develop for iOS.
This isn't remotely about replacing the Microsoft Corporate laptop/desktop, it's about developers working in Industrial Automation making apps with red/green lights relating to instrument readings on industrial devices so managers can look at them at home or on the floor. It's about how a minor division at GE are now being issued Macs because that's the only way they can build SDK to offer to those developers.
You're completely off-base with this.
End User wrote:K-L-Waster wrote:End User wrote:USB 3.1 Gen 1 in the new Surface Book 2
Now you're definitely trolling.
Er, no. USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports have no business being on new hardware in 2017 (and beyond). USB 3.1 Gen 2 was released 4 years ago! The fact that the Surface Book 2 is limited to USB 3.1 Gen 1 is just appalling.
End User wrote:K-L-Waster wrote:End User wrote:USB 3.1 Gen 1 in the new Surface Book 2
Now you're definitely trolling.
Er, no. USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports have no business being on new hardware in 2017 (and beyond). USB 3.1 Gen 2 was released 4 years ago! The fact that the Surface Book 2 is limited to USB 3.1 Gen 1 is just appalling.
K-L-Waster wrote:End User wrote:just brew it! wrote:Corporate users typically do not upgrade until official support ends. (And sometimes not even then.)
Does not change a thing. Windows 7 is ancient and as obsolete as the headphone jack or a manual transmission (and I ******* love manual transmissions).
Yes, yes, every device needs to be completely swapped out for something newer on a 5 months cycle, 'cus... shiny!!