superjawes wrote:wierdo wrote:Ok, buddy, let's just pretend Tesla's can't explode. Just don't type "Tesla Explosions" into Youtube lol:
By your own logic, this must be an epidemic.It's science. Lots of things can "explode" without generating fire. Many of your "proofs" against ICE vehicles weren't fuel caused or related, but caused by something else (like an air tank). Air tank explosions are not exclusive to ICE vehicles. On top of that, adding external fire where it shouldn't be is a bad thing for gasoline and Lithium batteries. You can't ignore external risks for one and not the other.Feel free to apologize for and agonize over every little snippet, to find an excuse about the nature of these many explosions...OOOOOhhhh really? So does that mean that only a fraction of EV fires are captured by government statistics? Does that mean that all EVs are rolling deathtraps, and we're not to take their safety statistics at face value?a fraction of the real world captured in government statistics.wierdo wrote:Holy moving goalposts, Batman! We were talking about fires one second, and now we're talking about crash rating? Those are two different issues. Sure, it's great that Tesla are apparently making vehicles with good crash ratings, but that is a completely separate issue from fire and explosions!Anyway, any creative rebuttals to the explanation for the safety features listed in the video here as well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkayYiwrjyQWait, I'm confused...now we have to trust government statistics? PICK A LANE!Obviously the governments are wrong and their tests and statistics are bs, so the above safety features don't work, and last century's technology is timelessly perfect. I'm excited to learn about the reasons why.
Look what you made me do...I created a Glorious-style response to one of your posts. Happy? The crazy thing is, I do support EV development. And I'm an electrical engineer, so EVs are even better for my profession. But it's not magic. The technology is niche right now. It has flaws, risks, and dangers, and it is imperative that these problems are solved. Even if we can't solve all of them, we need to do the best we can to deliver the best version possible. That isn't accomplished by living in the clouds sniffing unicorn farts. It's accomplished by hard working engineers tackling real problems with real solutions. I'm glad you're excited for EVs. The market needs people excited for EVs to beta test them. Just please, stop pretending that EVs are issue-free. Stop making up problems for conventional vehicles to justify a "radical change" attitude. THOSE things do NOT help the market.
Absolutely not helping the market. I only watch some of the videos to compare them to the actual lab tests I see... there is some correlation, but not a whole lot. The videos lean more toward marketing than reality, unfortunately.
Crash-wise, the "star rating" for passenger safety of Tesla vehicles is mostly a nice side effect of them needing to design a battery pack/container that doesn't combust easily should a crash occur (or you run over some road debris). If battery technology became magically "damage safe" overnight, Tesla would have to start actually making vehicles much lighter to compete, and expend much more engineering resources on the crash-worthiness of a lighter vehicle.