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Redocbew wrote:Has there been any talk about generating revenue through means other than advertising? Obviously bugs are bad for business, but trying to double down on what didn't work before I think would be much more concerning than any of the temporary problems that have come about through this migration. Personally I see no problem in prioritizing projects which will actively bring the site into the black over other projects which don't.
derFunkenstein wrote:I think they recognize it's in their best interests to foster community and get more people to regularly participate.
That's why the contributors have stressed the need to integrate the forums into the front page like the old design. These things don't happen overnight, though.
If you care about TR I'm still trying to encourage patience. How much each person chooses to extend is up to them, obviously.
FireGryphon wrote:If you care about TR I'm still trying to encourage patience. How much each person chooses to extend is up to them, obviously.
The people who aren’t willing to give any more of chance have already gone. The rest of us are still here. I like to think that we complain because we care. If we didn’t care enough, we’d be gone, too. We just need some evidence of positive change, which so far hasn’t happened.
FireGryphon wrote:What is the evidence of this?
FireGryphon wrote:Yes, they most literally do. We woke up and found a redesigned homepage that removed the focus from the community: it makes comments difficult and removes the focus on hot threads and comments (among other things).
FireGryphon wrote:The people who aren’t willing to give any more of chance have already gone. The rest of us are still here. I like to think that we complain because we care. If we didn’t care enough, we’d be gone, too. We just need some evidence of positive change, which so far hasn’t happened.
FireGryphon wrote:There are some who condemn the new design and just leave. On the other extreme there are people who say it’s OK, the new owners care, they’re making changes, so let’s stay. Both opinions have merit. One doesn’t want to throw out the baby with the bath water, but at the same time, I don’t consider that learning how to pin an article counts as responding to the community.
cphite wrote:Literally within the first couple of hours since the changeover, they've made fixes to issues that people have brought to their attention.
FireGryphon wrote:Gosh, the tone of these responses is getting a bit heated. There’s some pretty hurtful things I read up there.
FireGryphon wrote:Sorry if I offended anyone personally with my question. I genuinely thought it was a logical next question to ask in this process.
FireGryphon wrote:Gosh, the tone of these responses is getting a bit heated. There’s some pretty hurtful things I read up there. Sorry if I offended anyone personally with my question. I genuinely thought it was a logical next question to ask in this process.
derFunkenstein wrote:I think they recognize it's in their best interests to foster community and get more people to regularly participate.
Srsly_Bro wrote:5 stages of grieving.
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance.
At the new "TR"
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Anger
4. Anger
5. Depression
I'm still in the 2nd anger phase.
tanker27 wrote:If that's the case then why in the H-E-DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS have they not addressed the community they inherited!? If they believe us a an 'important' commodity then why not address us directly!? We are not children. Lay out your vision in a post and move forward. I'm not even expecting them to field any questions. Just put it out there and GO. This is my whole problem with it all.
Glorious wrote:I'm not sure who you are demanding it from, exactly, but you're talking to what are essentially volunteers who are stuck in the very uncomfortable middle of this. All they can do is relay what their take is, and since they're still here volunteering, yeah, they take a more positive view.
drfish wrote:Srsly_Bro wrote:5 stages of grieving.
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance.
At the new "TR"
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Anger
4. Anger
5. Depression
I'm still in the 2nd anger phase.
Hey, stop stealing my future headlines!
derFunkenstein wrote:tanker27 wrote:If that's the case then why in the H-E-DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS have they not addressed the community they inherited!? If they believe us a an 'important' commodity then why not address us directly!? We are not children. Lay out your vision in a post and move forward. I'm not even expecting them to field any questions. Just put it out there and GO. This is my whole problem with it all.
They've promised to do that. I'd like to have seen it by now, but hopefully you've read further in this thread and understand that we do not know.
At this point, repeatedly asking the same question we don't have an answer for feels to me like you're trying to run us off. I'm trying to remind myself that this isn't your motive, but if y'all could have a little sympathy for the messengers, it'd be nice.
tanker27 wrote:For me personally; Maybe on the off (a very very slim) chance, the two new overlords are actually reading any of this. And since its been put out there that SEO is paramount that the new SEO will direct them to this thread that have the new overlords name's in it.
But then again, this thread/forum may go poof too and be rebooted from day one. We don't know, but it's possible.
tanker27 wrote:For me personally; Maybe on the off (a very very slim) chance, the two new overlords are actually reading any of this. And since its been put out there that SEO is paramount that the new SEO will direct them to this thread that have the new overlords name's in it.
derFunkenstein wrote:sympathy for the messengers
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