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Re: Something's different...

Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:00 am

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http://nolfrevival.tk/ :D

Uh, is that legal?

As the story goes, what that site is hosting are the standalone conversions of NOLF, NOLF2, and Contract Jack that were supposed to end up on GOG.com. Once the attempt to secure licensing rights fell through due to none of the three nominal owners (Fox, WB, Activision) being willing to commit to which parts they owned, the game files escaped into the wild. And apparently none of the three possible owners cares enough to try and do a takedown of that site, because it's been up for a couple years at least.

In any case, I still have my original NOLF and NOLF2 CDs, but given the issues with trying to run them on a modern system, starting with "This system doesn't have an optical drive"...


The version of SafeDisc on the original NOLF and NOLF2 discs aren't compatible with NT 6.x. You have to circumvent them or run a VM (9x/NT 4.0/5.x environment) in order to get NOLF/NOLF2 working again.

It seems that NOLF/NOLF2 are falling into the grey pitfall of "abandonware". It is kinda ironic, Monolith originally took measures to make sure that NOLF/NOLF2 wouldn't fall into a legal quagmire (The original prototype had a male protagonist but was scrapped for being too much like 007).
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Re: Something's different...

Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:14 am

just brew it! wrote:
Vhalidictes wrote:
(I even have a Piledriver system, that was a mistake, if somewhat interesting)

An FX-8350 is still my "daily driver" at home. :lol:


Ditto. Heck, at the moment I've got three of them (home linux server and two linux boxes). They all run an instance of the icecream distributed compiler, which means I've got 24 cores at my disposal when compiling (make -j20 to account for the scheduling overhead etc). But the cluster still makes short work of llvm, clang and firefox compiles for instance.

Does the NOLF stuff run under Wine? My HD 7970 GHz Ed. wants to know.

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Re: Something's different...

Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:07 am

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An FX-8350 is still my "daily driver" at home. :lol:

Ditto. Heck, at the moment I've got three of them (home linux server and two linux boxes).

In my case, the home server is a Phenom II 1090T. :D
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Re: Something's different...

Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:23 am

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An FX-8350 is still my "daily driver" at home. :lol:

Ditto. Heck, at the moment I've got three of them (home linux server and two linux boxes).

In my case, the home server is a Phenom II 1090T. :D


You've *got* to be kidding me.

I used a PhII 1090T in an ASUS M4A78E SE w/8GB ECC DDR2-800 as home server until recently. It's now the backup home server where I test changes and wipe old spinning rust drives.
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Re: Something's different...

Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:46 am

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ermo wrote:
Ditto. Heck, at the moment I've got three of them (home linux server and two linux boxes).

In my case, the home server is a Phenom II 1090T. :D

You've *got* to be kidding me.

I used a PhII 1090T in an ASUS M4A78E SE w/8GB ECC DDR2-800 as home server until recently. It's now the backup home server where I test changes and wipe old spinning rust drives.

The 1090T has lasted through 2 server builds (and a desktop build before that). The current server is based on an Asus M5A97 motherboard with 8GB ECC DDR3. The previous server was based on an Asus M3A78-CM with 4GB of ECC DDR2 (this was basically the original 1090T desktop build with half of the RAM removed).

Two things impressed me: A) AMD providing backward compatibility with Socket AM2+ and DDR2 RAM in their first-gen AM3 processors; and B) Asus providing a BIOS update to add 1090T support to a motherboard which was ~2 years old when the CPU was released. Being able to make the transition from AM2+ to AM3 piecemeal was pretty cool.
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Re: Something's different...

Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:56 am

just brew it! wrote:
ermo wrote:
just brew it! wrote:
An FX-8350 is still my "daily driver" at home. :lol:

Ditto. Heck, at the moment I've got three of them (home linux server and two linux boxes).

In my case, the home server is a Phenom II 1090T. :D


To be fair, the 1090T probably outperforms most Bulldozer-derived CPUs.

So, a little background. When I first moved to Vegas and was therefore very new-job poor, I "upgraded" my Sandy Bridge Celeron (dual core 2.6Ghz) to one of those perennial $100 Newegg specials, 2-module/4-core Piledriver-with-no-IGP CPUs. (Pretty sure it was actually Richland 760K processor). I proceeded to OC it to 4.1Ghz no problem.

Windows 7 ran fantastically. It was a clear upgrade.

All my game FPS... halved.

Same OS, RAM, same video card, same HDD, half framerate in most titles from a CPU upgrade.

After about 6 months of playing with Windows/Game/Hardware settings, I gave up and switched back to the slowest Intel Sandy Bridge processor ever made. (It was originally purchased at Microcenter for $22 to jump-upgrade a motherboard BIOS for a build. It became my main CPU for ~2 years)
 
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Re: Something's different...

Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:09 pm

I had a similar experience - moved from a Phenom II X3 (with four cores unlocked) at 3.7 GHz to a 5 GHz Bulldozer. Game performance was dramatically worse...and thankfully I was able to return the BD chip for a full refund.
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Re: Something's different...

Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:58 am

Vhalidictes wrote:
just brew it! wrote:
ermo wrote:
Ditto. Heck, at the moment I've got three of them (home linux server and two linux boxes).

In my case, the home server is a Phenom II 1090T. :D


To be fair, the 1090T probably outperforms most Bulldozer-derived CPUs.


From the Linux kernel compiles I've done when switching between the 1090T and the FX-8350 in the same motherboard with the same RAM and HT/L3 cache settings (so essentially slightly OCing the 1090T because its cache ran at 2400MHz instead of 2000MHz) and otherwise stock speeds and voltages, my findings were that in as close as an apples to apples comparison you can get in terms of fully utilising the hardware, the FX-8350 finished the kernel compile + compression faster (make -j8 for the 1090T vs. make -j10 for the FX-8350).

For what I do with it (linux distro maintenance and therefore compiling and packaging FLOSS software), the FX-8350 is demonstrably quicker. Granted, this is a best case scenario, but given that I use my FX-8350s for this specific purpose, you could say that I went into this one with open eyes.

EDIT: I suppose I ought to try to run a set of representative Phoronix compile+compression benchmarks on Solus to see if I can replicate my anecdotal evidence for posterity.
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Re: Something's different...

Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:14 am

It almost certainly comes down to the specific workload being benchmarked. A kernel compile is good at leveraging all available cores, and likely isn't affected at all by the shared FPUs in Bulldozer/Piledriver. Games tend to be more sensitive to single-thread performance, and game logic tends to be pretty "branchy" which is going to interact poorly with the deep pipeline, reducing IPC.
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Re: Something's different...

Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:53 pm

Games sure seem to be optimized for an intel architecture. Guess we will not have any more deep hardware dives. But my best guess is that Intel has got better branch prediction and lower latency in the cache closest to the cores. That seems to be what games really want.
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Re: Something's different...

Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:05 pm

If this site is to be believed, TR has lost around 30% of its traffic from July to September:

https://www.similarweb.com/website/tech ... m#overview

SEO evaluator "woorank" gives the SEO effort a 74/100, and cites obvious things like an XML sitemap missing from robots.txt as problems.
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Re: Something's different...

Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:30 am

OOh more data points. I love analytics!
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Re: Something's different...

Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:16 pm

Just got my first full screen interstitial on my phone. Can't imagine that's good for SEO.
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Re: Something's different...

Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:46 pm

Me too. Followed the link by accident. So they're definitely optimizing something... :roll:
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Re: Something's different...

Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:52 pm

And just this very day, I'm talking about how full screen modals are "not great for UX". This is when I feel like there's something very deeply wrong with my profession.
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Re: Something's different...

Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:59 pm

Redocbew wrote:
And just this very day, I'm talking about how full screen modals are "not great for UX". This is when I feel like there's something very deeply wrong with my profession.

Heck, I've been convinced that there's something fundamentally wrong with much of the tech industry for a while now. But it still fascinates me at a technical/engineering level, and I'll probably continue to work in it in some capacity until I retire or kick the bucket (whichever comes first). Hopefully my participation makes it suck a little less; I do seem to have a knack for finding and fixing other people's screw-ups.

Re full-screen modal UIs... yeah, we've known they were bad for a long time. It's one of the most common criticisms aimed at the venerable "vi" text editor which has been present on pretty much every *NIX system from the late 1970s to the present day. People were already complaining about it in the 1980s. :lol:
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Re: Something's different...

Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:58 am

Ed is the standard text editor.

Related:

INTEL ANNOUNCES NEW PROCESSOR FOR TRULY PERSONAL COMPUTING
1 April 1993

Intel Corp. today announced a new line of low-power high performance
microprocessors for a entirely new concept in "personal" computing. The
new processors, codenamed "Rectium", are designed to actually fit the
appropriate body cavity for "Computing Anywhere, Anytime", according to
Fred Burfl, Vice President for New Product Locations at Intel. "We
figured that with our 'Intel Inside' advertising campaign, which has
high consumer awareness, we couldn't lose!".

Within six months, a high-performance co-processor will also be made
available.  Implemented in Gallium Arsenide technology, the co-processor
is tentatively code-named "Rectium GaAs".  A new high-speed communications
bus based on a proprietary "Fast Aerodynamic Regional Transport" protocol
will take performance to new heights.

Intel officials suggest that the chips will be ideally suited for
back-end processing applications.


Reaction on Wall Street was mixed.  PepsiCo (owner of the Taco Bell
restaurant chain) gained an eighth, to close at 82 7/8, after announcing
a strong commitment to the new GaAs technology.  Ralston-Purina (maker
of Bean-o) fell an eighth, to 50 5/8.
INTEL ANNOUNCES NEW PROCESSOR FOR TRULY PERSONAL COMPUTING
1 April 1993

Intel Corp. today announced a new line of low-power high performance
microprocessors for a entirely new concept in "personal" computing. The
new processors, codenamed "Rectium", are designed to actually fit the
appropriate body cavity for "Computing Anywhere, Anytime", according to
Fred Burfl, Vice President for New Product Locations at Intel. "We
figured that with our 'Intel Inside' advertising campaign, which has
high consumer awareness, we couldn't lose!".

Within six months, a high-performance co-processor will also be made
available.  Implemented in Gallium Arsenide technology, the co-processor
is tentatively code-named "Rectium GaAs".  A new high-speed communications
bus based on a proprietary "Fast Aerodynamic Regional Transport" protocol
will take performance to new heights.

Intel officials suggest that the chips will be ideally suited for
back-end processing applications.


Reaction on Wall Street was mixed.  PepsiCo (owner of the Taco Bell
restaurant chain) gained an eighth, to close at 82 7/8, after announcing
a strong commitment to the new GaAs technology.  Ralston-Purina (maker
of Bean-o) fell an eighth, to 50 5/8.

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Re: Something's different...

Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:05 pm

bthylafh wrote:
Ed is the standard text editor.

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Re: Something's different...

Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:44 pm

Sad, lost non-emacs users!
 
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Re: Something's different...

Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:44 am

Did someone say Nano?
 
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Re: Something's different...

Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:05 am

Can't we just agree that every editor is a good editor? (as long as its learning curve looks and feels like Mexico border wall)
 
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Re: Something's different...

Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:59 am

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Did someone say Nano?

This is all I use for plain config file editing on my Mac and whatever nonsense SSH I do (not much these days), and I wrote tons of 1990s static HTML pages in its sibling pico, but these days I prefer full-GUI text editing utilities like Notepad++.
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Re: Something's different...

Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:31 am

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I've decided to put Shortbread on hiatus.
After a month, you must be jonesing to post some cat pics.
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Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:15 am

True story, after I stopped re-posting pictures of random cats on the internet, my cat decided to love me again.
 
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Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:35 pm

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True story, after I stopped re-posting pictures of random cats on the internet, my cat decided to love me again.

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Re: Something's different...

Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:33 am

derFunkenstein wrote:
If this site is to be believed, TR has lost around 30% of its traffic from July to September:

https://www.similarweb.com/website/tech ... m#overview

SEO evaluator "woorank" gives the SEO effort a 74/100, and cites obvious things like an XML sitemap missing from robots.txt as problems.


That seems to imply that the decline was relatively small and had mostly stabilized up until August after which total visits fell off a cliff, it'll be interesting to see how that looks when it's updated again for October.
 
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Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:07 am

Rand wrote:
That seems to imply that the decline was relatively small and had mostly stabilized up until August after which total visits fell off a cliff, it'll be interesting to see how that looks when it's updated again for October.

If not for Zen 2, Navi, and the Turing Super GPUs, I think that line would have trended straight downward, and September less dramatic as a result. The traffic bump in July and early August is likely due to two epic reviews from Zak, and that's exactly the kind of content that the new regime does NOT value.

October will definitely be interesting.
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Re: Something's different...

Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:22 am

Just wanted to pop in and say that I appreciate the work Eric and Aaron are putting in to make TR more active. *Hat tip*

I now find myself visiting daily again. Even the comments section is seeing a little more action these days.

I stil miss Zak, Ben and the rest of the old crew. But at least it seems that the primarily bot-targeted blog posts with little value to human readers have slowed to a crawl? Is it a bad sign that I can't quite judge whether that's a good thing or not?
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Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:57 pm

I've pretty much lost hope. It has no real reviews, giant ugly adds, and a special kind of design. At this point the only reason I visit is because of the forums and muscle memory.
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Re: Something's different...

Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:37 pm

thecoldanddarkone wrote:
I've pretty much lost hope. It has no real reviews, giant ugly adds, and a special kind of design. At this point the only reason I visit is because of the forums and muscle memory.


I wish they would include the persons forum handle as well as real name, I can't tell who anyone is and I don't want to figure it out.

It also seems that the main forum activities are Igor_Kavinski weird threads...

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