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meerkt wrote:Congrats!
Is self-uniting rare over there?
steelcity_ballin wrote:technically PA only does so because some guy tried in like 2007 and was denied.
steelcity_ballin wrote:Rare-er, yes. Only a handful of states recognize it and technically PA only does so because some guy tried in like 2007 and was denied. The ACLU then sued the state on his behalf for religious discrimination since Quakers could do so, and won. Since then it's available to most counties in PA from what I know.
meerkt wrote:But do many non-Quaker/Amish in PA do it?
Glorious wrote:steelcity_ballin wrote:Rare-er, yes. Only a handful of states recognize it and technically PA only does so because some guy tried in like 2007 and was denied. The ACLU then sued the state on his behalf for religious discrimination since Quakers could do so, and won. Since then it's available to most counties in PA from what I know.
That can't be *completely* right. I went to one before then. ~2000? To my recollection neither were actually Quakers. This was in Philadelphia.
It's indeed because of the quakers (who, confessionally, do not believe in "ministers"), but for that very same reason it's centuries old.
You just need two witnesses, no officiant.
It might be because of the "license", but I've seen marriage licenses from Allegheny county and they're laughable. It's just one of those weird things where the clerks have to notarize it, and if they won't for invalid reasons, well, you're sort of stuck for a moment.
Basically, if you do something unusual sometimes they just say no because if their internal procedures don't expressly allow for it (even if contrary to actual law) they bureaucratically don't do anything.
Glorious wrote:Wikipedia says also the Amish are into that, though the linked reference only mentions Quakers and Bahai.The Amish, as is directly relevant to this case, absolutely have ministers (and very prestigious ones within the community at that).
Non-religious people in general might find some appeal (if there are are no bureaucratic downsides). Like steelcity_ballin, I assume.As to people in general, no, I mean come on. Obviously most people don't do it.
derFunkenstein wrote:What a weird direction this thread has taken.
meerkt wrote:derFunkenstein wrote:What a weird direction this thread has taken.
It's a tech forum, and steelcity_ballin mentioned it in the OP. Benchmarking different marriage techniques is to be expected.
BerserkBen wrote:Congrats! You finally have someone else to fondle the Grapes of Roth!
steelcity_ballin wrote:I wish more people would forego the stress and cost of a 'traditional' approach unless they both really want it. So many societal pressures to have it all.
steelcity_ballin wrote:BerserkBen wrote:Congrats! You finally have someone else to fondle the Grapes of Roth!
Bwahahah. Thanks again everyone, and we definitely are in the far top-left of the price/performance scatter plot for what we spent and how happy we are with it. I wish more people would forego the stress and cost of a 'traditional' approach unless they both really want it. So many societal pressures to have it all.