Personal computing discussed
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derFunkenstein wrote:I'm not sure that right now is a great time to build, anyway. Lots of retailers are running short on stock these days.
JustAnEngineer wrote:Custom designs will have THREE 150-watt 8-pin PCIe connectors. The PCIe x16 slot can provide up to 75 watts from the motherboard, so that puts the new Ampere’s power consumption in the range of 376 to 525 watts.
The new micro 12-pin connector is rated for up to 600 watts. It’s significantly more compact than existing PCIe connectors.
Krogoth wrote:It has more pins, but they're smaller. One 600-watt micro 12-pin connector is about the same length and only 2/3 as wide as a single 150-watt 8-pin PCIe connector.JustAnEngineer wrote:I wouldn't call 12-pin connector "micro". It is just a scale-up PCIe connector with extra wiring for power.The new micro 12-pin connector is rated for up to 600 watts. It’s significantly more compact than existing PCIe connectors.
Krogoth wrote:I wouldn't call 12-pin connector "micro".
JustAnEngineer wrote:Custom designs will have THREE 150-watt 8-pin PCIe connectors. The PCIe x16 slot can provide up to 75 watts from the motherboard, so that puts the new Ampere’s power consumption in the range of 376 to 525 watts.
The new micro 12-pin connector is rated for up to 600 watts. It’s significantly more compact than existing PCIe connectors.
JustAnEngineer wrote:They're recommending an 850-watt power supply.
JustAnEngineer wrote:Remember that Intel's current 14 nm Comet Lake CPUs are also extremely power-hungry, pulling more than double their "TDP" rating, so the 850-watt PSU isn't all for the Ampere GPU.
tfp wrote:If you can afford what will be a graphics card that costs $1K you can shell out a little more for a PSU.
Captain Ned wrote:Next up as qualified PSUs? Industrial arc welders.
Captain Ned wrote:They output 800W at 1 ohm impedance, if you're talking about a pair of Mark Levinson stereo amps used as a welder. This was the beastie one used to drive Apogee Full Range or Scintilla true ribbon speakers.
https://www.stereo.net.au/forums/topic/ ... nt=1727042
whm1974 wrote:I really haven't been keeping with the latest and Greatest, but Intel is still at 14nm? AMD is already using 7nm for both it's CPUs and dGPU. Doesn't Apple has samples of it's ARM SoC made with 7nm tech? Meanwhile I'm not sure about Nvidia.
just brew it! wrote:whm1974 wrote:I really haven't been keeping with the latest and Greatest, but Intel is still at 14nm? AMD is already using 7nm for both it's CPUs and dGPU. Doesn't Apple has samples of it's ARM SoC made with 7nm tech? Meanwhile I'm not sure about Nvidia.
It's a bit of an apples/oranges comparison since Intel and TSMC define their process nodes slightly differently, but yeah. Intel has fallen behind in the process race. All the experience making smartphone SOCs has catapulted TSMC to the bleeding edge, and AMD is leveraging TSMC's process to the hilt. GloFo has thrown in the towel on bleeding edge CPU manufacturing, and is relegated to making the Ryzen I/O die.
tfp wrote:The question is, does Intel have enough cash flow to do both the stock by back and buy enough lithography system? They also pay a quarterly dividend. They are a big enough company, have enough cash, and cash flow to do more than 1 thing.