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on-line language

Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:17 pm

If I were to make a post full of swearing it would, quite rightly for this site, be locked, deleted and jetisoned into the sun (possibly the last one may be an exageration).

However, why is it that posts that say things like:

OMFG
WTF
F**k


...and so on are OK. Everyone knows what the abreviations, substitutions and acronyms we use on line actually mean, so why are they not as offensive? This post is in no way a critiism aimed at anyone at all, just thought it was a little funny how arbitrary profanity can be. Is it possible that in 20 years time 'WTF' will be an unacceptable thing to post?
 
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Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:48 pm

stop f***ing swearing mate, this is a f***ing family site...


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

personally I'd be happy dropping all that rubbish but I suppose you have to cater to the youngest common denominator and all that.

maybe TR could bring out some kind of rude filter that could replace all my instancies of Anglo Saxon with pictures of cute fluffy bunnies if you're under 18 but leaves it in if the rest of us :D
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Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:53 pm

Umm... yeah... I'm 18... right... I'll just click THAT checkbox instead... I was born in 1987 instead of 1988... that's wrong...

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

(How 'bout this? Turn on the filter by default, and a user can turn it off. I'll turn mine OFF, even though I'm under 18.)
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Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:56 pm

:lol: :lol: I don't know what to say...
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Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:02 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:


...I just saw a pattern with the smilies...
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Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:09 pm

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OMFG! WTF is going on with this f**king pattern of smilies?
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Re: on-line language

Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:27 pm

stephenb wrote:
Everyone knows what the abreviations, substitutions and acronyms we use on line actually mean, so why are they not as offensive?


For the same reason you can say Biatch during children’s TV but not bitch. Basically the censors haven’t caught up to the latest language trends.

It strange but people actually think that if you use different words to describe something then some are ok. e.g. vagina = good, ****, pussy = bad. Its all the same thing but people have been raised to take offence to some words without questioning the logic.

What’s strange for my not being from the USA is that you can have a discussion about firearms in the back porch but if you mention sex at all its straight to R&P.

Note: MS Word's spell check doesn’t even recognise **** as a word.

Stealth edit: **** is C*nt
 
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:13 am

I figure that the abbreviations might be a bit more tame because they arent fully spelled out so the average to a little slow youngster wouldnt know what they meant.. not sure if that is a good thing. If they continue to be allowed, it gives some freedom to the older readers and allows families to accidentally click a TR forum bookmark without too much worry.
 
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Re: on-line language

Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:31 am

dragmor wrote:
Stealth edit: **** is C*nt


Cant?
:lol:
 
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:50 am

What’s strange for my not being from the USA is that you can have a discussion about firearms in the back porch but if you mention sex at all its straight to R&P.
Cultural hipocrisy. ;) Most countries have it in one form or another. US, UK, Sweden, etc, etc.

Like some shows ive seen where they actually black out a nipple, but a guy shooting someone in the head is perfectly alright. I mean, that is totally turned around. Most living people have sucked on a nipple at one time or another in their lives, so whats so bad about em? :roll:
 
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:24 am

Aphasia wrote:
Like some shows ive seen where they actually black out a nipple, but a guy shooting someone in the head is perfectly alright. I mean, that is totally turned around. Most living people have sucked on a nipple at one time or another in their lives, so whats so bad about em? :roll:


I saw a TV show while in the USA which was about breast surgery, they showed the whole breast but blured the nipple. Then when she put on the shirt at the end it was all nipples (with no blur).
 
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Re: on-line language

Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:30 am

totoro wrote:
dragmor wrote:
Stealth edit: **** is C*nt


Cant?
:lol:

nah. cent. :P
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:31 am

anyway... why DO we swear by sex, "god", and excrement? *shrug*
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:32 am

excession wrote:
anyway... why DO we swear by sex, "god", and excrement? *shrug*


All taboo topics I guess or at least have been so in the past. Nothing like mentioning bodily functions to get your point across in an intelligent and enlightened way.
 
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:08 am

Dirge wrote:
Nothing like mentioning bodily functions to get your point across in an intelligent and enlightened way.


Nice :lol::lol::lol: 8)
 
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:15 am

Dirge wrote:
All taboo topics I guess or at least have been so in the past. Nothing like mentioning bodily functions to get your point across in an intelligent and enlightened way.


"Oh SNEEZE!!!"
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Re: on-line language

Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:51 am

totoro wrote:
dragmor wrote:
Stealth edit: **** is C*nt


Cant?
:lol:


Q:"Hey whats a 4 letter word for snatch?"
A:"Grab?"
 
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:57 am

I think the phrase which would sum most of this up is

"I'll **** shoot you, you c*nt."
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Re: on-line language

Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:49 am

dragmor wrote:
What’s strange for my not being from the USA is that you can have a discussion about firearms in the back porch but if you mention sex at all its straight to R&P.

I think you are confused on the reasons why threads get moved to the R&P forum. Just talking about guns or sex doesn't cause a thread to get moved. It's when the threads discuss them in a political, religious, or sociological setting (such as abortion, gun control, etc). However, most threads on sex in this forum have been posed in those contexts, whereas there are a few gun threads that just talk about the guns themselves.

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Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:32 am

If you guys want to have the home-defense debate, please do so in R&P, where it rightfully belongs.
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:32 pm

Darkmage wrote:
I once saw an interesting comparison of the cover of a CD that was censored differently for the UK and for the USA. I think it was a U2 album, but I'm not sure. The cover pictured a topless woman holding an assault rifle above her head. In the USA, her breasts were covered by a black box, and you could see the gun clear as day. In the UK, her top was bare, but the gun was covered by a black box. Go figure. :-?


wow. i never seen that. i would LOVE to see examples of both covers you
mentioned...can someone link me here or via PM plz. ty.
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:37 pm

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OMFG! WTF is going on with this f**king pattern of smilies?


i dunno, but for some reason, this didnt get filtered or deleted so i guess
it's ok and approved by the site?

url: viewtopic.php?p=429131#429131

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it's all yer fault bhtooefr, i blame you for what i just posted! :P
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:07 pm

Gun politics posts have been split off and sent to R&P. Keep the political side of that eternal debate there, please.
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:34 pm

Aphasia wrote:
Like some shows ive seen where they actually black out a nipple, but a guy shooting someone in the head is perfectly alright. I mean, that is totally turned around. Most living people have sucked on a nipple at one time or another in their lives, so whats so bad about em? :roll:


This really bothers me too.
Then again, the USA has a pretty unique culture when it comes to guns and gun violence.

"Are Americans gun crazy, or just crazy?" is a good question.

More nudity, less violence on TV would bring us in line with most of the rest of the world. And they have way less violent and sex crimes per capita, among other things. Doesn't this data make you wonder?

Yes, I think our country is wacked.

Edit: Oops..sorry about the above...

Um on F*cking topic then.
Godda*m bastar*s stopped putting apple pies in the snack machine.
I'm pissed. I had to settle for f*cking cheese its!!!!

Um yea...sorry...Ah...I say being allowed to fake-swear is better then no swearing at all. Come on, we all do it - don't we?
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Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:59 pm

Alright you ******* ***********, I'm going to ******* **** the next one of you who says ****, ****, ****, ****, ***, or even ****!! You'd better bet your ************ great aunt Millie that I won't hesitate to ********* your ****-******* ********* with a ******* ten inch black rubber ***** if you say one word about it, too!


Now get your ******* ***** back on topic or this is going to turn into MAD LIBS FROM HELL.


:P :P :P


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Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:43 am

i got one to top it all off:

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^ yup. thats the best one on the internet ^
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Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:57 pm

Gleek: As ever, you worry me, mang.
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Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:14 pm

It's because in the distant past, our ancestors believed that "curses" worked, and blasphemy worked as a sort of "self-curse". That is, that the person hearing them (or uttering them, in the case of blasphemies) actually was being placed under an adverse magical spell. Somewhere along the way a series of taboo words dealing with sex seem to have been swept up into prohibition, which is why they are collectively called "curses."

Like any magic spell, you must utter or inscribe the whole word for the magic to work. Similarity is just not good enough to make a curse or blasphemy stick. Hence variants of "F*&k" turned into euphemisms like "frigging" and "Jesus" turned into "Geez" without anyone batting an eye.

Also, the supposedly mind warping power of these magic words on children similarly doesn't work unless the spells are spoken properly. A kid who hears the word "f*&k" is damaged for life, but a kid who hears, "Frak you! Frak you, you fraking piece of feldercarb!" is watching Battlestar Galactica.
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Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:29 pm

**REMOVED**

That's accessible with the ::****:: emoticon on that board, FWIW...

372 bytes to Gleek's 3057... Nice and efficient, and still gets the facking across :P

Edit: BTW, while it says ****, that's post nazi-language-filter processing.

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Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:20 pm

LOL, pretty interesting that curse words in URLs do not get censored for display. I smell a new hole past the censors... Did I really just say "I smell a new hole" in a thread dedicated to vulgarity? Dsmn!

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