just brew it! wrote:Captain Ned wrote:JBI I tried, but failed. Where is it written that modern prog rock MUST come with Metallica-style crunchy guitars (IOW, does 21st Century prog really mean prog-metal)?
Not a written rule, but definitely seems to be a trend; prog metal is probably the most popular prog offshoot these days, and there don't seem to be a lot of bands still making "retro" prog.
In an odd sort of reversal, Opeth (who were a prog death metal band in their earlier years) have pretty much gone full-on retro for their past 3 albums. Though some of it is more retro-hard-rock (think Deep Purple) than prog.
Captain Ned wrote:Lifeson's solo was the sole bit of actual guitar sound in the entire piece.
The comments were hilarious in praising the drummer. A pre-arthritis Phil Collins could have banged out those rhythms in his sleep.
Spoken like a true '70s prog rock die-hard!
Anesthetize is a great song; but I never truly began to love it until I saw it on bluray. My personal favorite from PT will probably always be
Arriving Somewhere but Not Here. For Captain Ned's sake I would recommend this one above Anesthetize as it is probably the truest example of 70's Prog that PT has ever written. As for other bands that follow a more traditional 70s prog song, I know I have come across several in the past but I personally lean to the more grungy sounds and don't recall most of them I came across. I want to say Baroness has a few classic prog songs; but I never listened to them much and couldn't give you any tracks to look up. They also change their sound intentionally with every album so it could take some combing to find what you are looking for.
I would also argue that 21st century prog rock doesn't mean prog metal, rather 21st century rock is most commonly metal. A big proponent of this is how main stream genres has recently shifted. Country has moved from country western sound to more southern rock/rock. That has left most of the remaining rock bands to either shift to a heavier sound and fall into one of the thousands of metal sub genres but loose radio time, or to soften their sound and become pop/alt-rock/indie. There aren't a lot of bands that are "pure" rock anymore and very popular in mainstream. Shinedown and Chevelle come to mind. Most bands that advertise as rock are one foot in rock and one foot in a different genre. It is just the inevitable result of musical evolution. I also partially blame American radio for neutering American metal bands. Most metal in the US ends of loosing its edge because radio and producers think a softer sound is more radio friendly and sells better. This has caused a lot American metal bands to loose their edge and become more of a mainstream rock sound while still carrying themselves as metal. 5FDP, A7F, Seether, Disturbed, Godsmack, Pop Evil, Hollywood Undead are all bands that have been corn-holed by American Radio standards. That isn't to say those bands don't/couldn't write good music, just that the songs you hear from them on the radio fall far from their true potential and lack the unique sounds that made them popular in the first place. I created my own metal sub-genre name just to use for bands such as these that I affectionately call "Hello-Kitty Metal." Most radio stations that play "Good" modern rock, tend to also lump the good rock in with Hello-Kitty Metal which causes people who like rock but don't want to listen to Hello Kitty Metal to listen to Pop-Rock stations instead, such as Theory of a Deadman. Thankfully, Radio is almost dead, and the pandora/spotify generation of the music industry is more aptly built to allow bands to be themselves and help lead listeners to a band, rather than the radio era which forced bands into a genre and slapped them with a stick when they tried to play outside of the predefined norms.
-Rant over