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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Tue May 30, 2017 11:33 am

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Heh, I suppose. I guess I'm not enough of a Beatles fan to know that they hard-panned lead vocals at some point. That is to say, I only have more than a passing familiarity with a handful of their songs, and I never really "got" them (nor did I really want to).

It isn't like that on all the songs, but some of the tracks have the drums/bass in the center, vocals panned hard to one side, and most of the other instruments panned hard to the other side. Having the vocals in the center but drums and bass hard-panned ("Fixing A Hole" is like this) is pretty weird too, especially through headphones.

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For a short time my car was "mono", because the both the front and rear right-side speakers died. It's weird listening to stereo music with one channel removed.

Yeah, the speaker in the driver-side door on our van is currently dead. There's a speaker on the left side of the dash too, but that one seems to be a tweeter so if you're driving you only get bass from behind and to the right of you.
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Tue May 30, 2017 6:55 pm

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It isn't like that on all the songs, but some of the tracks have the drums/bass in the center, vocals panned hard to one side, and most of the other instruments panned hard to the other side. Having the vocals in the center but drums and bass hard-panned ("Fixing A Hole" is like this) is pretty weird too, especially through headphones.

Outside of Help! and Rubber Soul, the stereo mixes were pure afterthoughts put out to keep snobby Americans buying the product. They were never the end goal of George Martin's recording process. Many stereo songs use different takes from the mono mixes and thus sound odd to seasoned mono listeners.

If you really want to hear the pan-potting, just fire up the stereo version of "Taxman" from Revolver.

The only albums mixed to stereo at creation are Yellow Submarine, Abbey Road, and Let It Be. Even Help! and Rubber Soul were mixed to mono originally and then remixed to stereo back in 1965.
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Tue May 30, 2017 7:01 pm

Listening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOwRW8ee4S8

The Latin Rite Agnus Dei set to Barber's Adagio For Strings. I was a fair-to-middlin' chorister back in HS (3 All-State, 2 All-New England, second bass), and the breath control needed in this piece is simply beyond belief. DerFunk knows this (well, once he listens), as expecting sopranos to hold a note that high for 30 seconds usually ends up like Long-Haired Hare.

The piece is but 69 measures long. The link above is 9:27 long. It had best be your closing piece as no one will be able to sing worth a crap for several hours after this lung-buster.
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Tue May 30, 2017 10:29 pm

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Outside of Help! and Rubber Soul, the stereo mixes were pure afterthoughts

Heh. My copy of Rubber Soul seems to have some pretty egregious pan-potting on it. Almost everything panned hard left/right on many tracks. Heck, I don't hear *anything* in the center on "Norwegian Wood". Nada.

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put out to keep snobby Americans buying the product.

As opposed to the modern-day equivalent, snobby purists shelling out again for mono reissues? :wink:

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If you really want to hear the pan-potting, just fire up the stereo version of "Taxman" from Revolver.

At least the vocals are panned to center!
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Tue May 30, 2017 10:37 pm

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As opposed to the modern-day equivalent, snobby purists shelling out again for mono reissues? :wink:

A/K/A hearing them as originally intentioned? 8)

Before I bought the mono set I had the US stereo versions of Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Pepper, and the White Album. Haven't listened to any of those stereo versions once I got the mono box set. George Martin really did know what he was doing.
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Tue May 30, 2017 11:30 pm

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As opposed to the modern-day equivalent, snobby purists shelling out again for mono reissues? :wink:

A/K/A hearing them as originally intentioned? 8)

I did put the wink emoji in there... I'm just giving you a hard time. :D

I really do grok where you're coming from, and if I was more of a fan of early Beatles I'd be shelling out the cash for that box set too. While they were an integral part of the soundtrack of my childhood, I've never felt a pressing need to meticulously replicate that listening experience. What I've got currently is generally good enough for me.
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:29 pm

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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:06 pm

The recent flock of CD arrivals:

Dire Straits - Live: Alchemy (why I didn't have this already is beyond me; next week I'll find the copy I forgot I had). Had it on cassette back in college. Still have the deck, but SWMBO took it upon herself to ditch the tapes at least 20 years ago. Doubt that new rubber parts to replace the 30-YO dried-up bits of the tape path even exist anymore (Denon DR-M44HX). Private Investigations has always been my go-to on this album. Mark Knopfler is criminally underrated.

Grateful Dead - Their official release of the 5/8/77 ur-concert at Cornell. Based on the same tapes (Betty Boards) as all of the ROIO versions out there, but they seem to have fixed the dbX reference voltage issue so the bass doesn't sound like me after a pepperoni/anchovy calzone (Dolby used a fixed reference bias voltage, dbX a variable sliding one, and the Betty Boards are in dbX). HDCD-encoded, so dbPoweramp spits out a 24-bit WAV file. Thankfully, my listening chain can handle that.

Jethro Tull - Songs From The Wood 40th Remaster. Where I did not like Steven Wilson's work on Yes, I love it here (Ian was already a perfectionist). 3CD (original album + even more unreleased; then a 2-disc composite "In Concert 1977") and 2 DVD, including a concert vid, a 5.1 of the album, and some 24/96 of various bits. In reading the booklet, I find that the '70's-era keyboard "assistant" David Palmer is now Dee Palmer. Well, for a lead signer who made his bones wearing a giant codpiece, it fits. Ian & Martin, I beseech thee. Fix whatever happened.

My only problem is that I'm the first to use dbPoweramp to move copies of Dead/Tull to my portable music drive (for those who forget, they're WAVs), so it processes each song 3-4 times to assure internal consistency. I'll upload to AccurateRip as soon as I can so no one else has to deal with this.
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:50 am

I rip using K3B these days, and have the "paranoia mode" cranked all the way up. Rips take forever, but I only need to do them once.

I was not aware of AccurateRip... looks like a really good idea. If there isn't a decent Linux-compatible AccurateRip tool it gives me another reason to do that Windows gaming build I've been talking about doing since last winter. (I used EAC back in the day, and it looks like it has AccurateRip support now.)

As an aside for those who've never tried to rip a large CD collection: It's amazing how bad most PC optical drives are at returning accurate data for audio CD rips. Historically, "bit-accurate" rippers like EAC (Windows) and the "paranoia" modes (Linux) have used a combination of heuristics, multiple re-reads, and other techniques in an attempt to recover all of the data accurately. It sounds like AccurateRip has created a database (of hashes? haven't looked into the details...) to assist CD ripping tools in detecting when they've got an accurate rip.
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:20 am

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It sounds like AccurateRip has created a database (of hashes? haven't looked into the details...) to assist CD ripping tools in detecting when they've got an accurate rip.

I'm assuming it's hash-based, as dbPoweramp shows a "CRC" field of 8 hexadecimal characters. No idea what the underlying algorithm is, though
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:40 am

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It sounds like AccurateRip has created a database (of hashes? haven't looked into the details...) to assist CD ripping tools in detecting when they've got an accurate rip.

I'm assuming it's hash-based, as dbPoweramp shows a "CRC" field of 8 hexadecimal characters. No idea what the underlying algorithm is, though

Yeah, if all they're trying to do is verify bit-accurate results, then a simple CRC should suffice. It's not like they're trying to secure sensitive data against malicious tampering.
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Sat Jun 03, 2017 4:41 am

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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:07 am

Boney M - Brown Girl In The Ring
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:37 am

Sigue Sigue Sputnik - Love Missile F1-11
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:08 am

Tesla - Changes

On the same subject, here's Yes.
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:44 pm

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Sam Phillips - Omnipop (It's Only a Flesh Wound Lambchop) (1996)

Quirky pop-rock. IMO not as consistent or interesting as her album that preceded it (Martinis and Bikinis).

This is just too weird to absorb properly at work. I'll have to sit down and listen to it, although my initial impression is "experimental sounding, yet hopelessly pretentious". 
Initial impressions are often wrong, though!

But not always. "Weird" and "pretentious" aren't too far off the mark IMO, though on the "experimental" scale it's pretty tame. If you really want experimental I'll recommend you some "out there" stuff. :wink:

Necroing a sort-of-tangent I started back in February here...

Just grabbed another Sam Phillips - Fan Dance (2001)

Less pretentious than Omnipop..., with sparser, stripped-down production. On first listen, I really like this. But her 1994 album Martinis And Bikinis is still better.
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:19 am

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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:28 am

Synthwave, as ever. New Retro Wave's Magnatron 2.0 comes out July 7, lead single released 3 days ago: Wice - Star Fighter. Driving! Mmph!

More NRW fare I listened to recently: The Encounter - Behemoth IV (stereo's a must), Ron Cannon - Dreamaniac (fabulously grungy & gloomy), Division - The New Wave (for languorous evenings, mmm).

The Heavy - Short Change Hero - can't remember where I first heard it, but their stuff's in all kinds of media (games, films, ads). Catchy rock.

Ray Barretto - Summertime - Latin Jazz from a prolific musician, more stuff for languid evenings or, I suppose, stifling afternoons.

Byrne carrying over from my last post, and Latin flavor from the above, Thievery Corporation - The Heart's a Lonely Hunter (feat. Byrne). "WELCOME TO MY SPACESHIP!" Trippy stuff.

Bohren & der Club of Gore - Prowler - because I had to double down on the listless, leaden moods of a few songs I listed above. I love these guys; all their stuff's like this. Super-downtempo dark ambient jazz (see also "doom jazz", "noir jazz").

Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand - because I've got this ad hoc dark theme going, and because it's Nick Cave, ffs. Lyrics, voice, creepy moodiness, theatricality.

Wax Audio - Stayin' Alive In The Wall - because it works, dammit.

Pomplamoose, Ben Folds, & Nick Hornby - Things You Think - can't be too downbeat. I love when this comes up. Great narrative bits by Hornby. "Our universe consists of between 30 to 50 billion trillion stars arranged in 80 to 140 billion galaxies; our nearest neighboring star is called Proxima Centauri, and it's four light years away. We need some bread, but it's really hot outside and I can't be bothered to walk 'round the corner." Ben Folds is another fascinating musician.
 
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:15 am

The Paul Butterfield Blues Band - Shake Your Money-Maker
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Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:55 am

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Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:06 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFiyZB5ucgo

Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing. Here's the catch, though. It's on a Korean instrument called a Gayageum and it would be impossible except for the sliding bridges for each string that allow Western tuning. Look closely in the vid and you'll see that she took at least three passes to lay down the entire track.
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:50 am

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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:12 am

I am a big fan of the so-called slow music with evergreen messages. I am listening to one track by Don McClurkin, "I Need You".

This is moving, perhaps it is until a couple of days later until I switch to something totally different.
 
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:12 am

Intronaut - Void (2006)

Still digesting this. Pretty heavy stuff, somewhat in the vein of Mastodon. Looks like I'll need to pick up their back catalog...
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:15 pm

Armchair self-psychoanalysis time... :lol:

I've come to the realization that I've increasingly been listening to darker, more aggressive/dissonant music over the past few years. I find things like Meshuggah, Atheist, early Opeth and Mastodon, Intronaut, etc. piquing my interest more frequently of late. Chatotic experimental instrumental stuff too, like Freak Zoid. These are bands to which I would probably not have given a second listen before.

I'm left wondering whether there's a subtle connection to the darkening social/political mood lately, or if it is some sort of weird mid-life crisis (I'm in my mid-50s now, for those of you who are new here or haven't been following along). Just seems I've got an increasing preference for music that tends to have a darker or more chaotic mood.

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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:11 pm

I hear you jbi. We are a product of our environment, more often than not.

My environment has been 1990s-fueled lately. Chris Cornell's death has caused me to pull out some Audioslave and Soundgarden. Also listening to Soul Asylum, Nirvana, older Foo Fighters, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, and so on. These are the mythical musical heroes of my adolescent and early adult years.
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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:24 pm

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Armchair self-psychoanalysis time... :lol:

I've come to the realization that I've increasingly been listening to darker, more aggressive/dissonant music over the past few years. I find things like Meshuggah, Atheist, early Opeth and Mastodon, Intronaut, etc. piquing my interest more frequently of late. Chatotic experimental instrumental stuff too, like Freak Zoid. These are bands to which I would probably not have given a second listen before.

I'm left wondering whether there's a subtle connection to the darkening social/political mood lately, or if it is some sort of weird mid-life crisis (I'm in my mid-50s now, for those of you who are new here or haven't been following along). Just seems I've got an increasing preference for music that tends to have a darker or more chaotic mood.

(Hope we can keep this here in the BP, will split to R&P if needed.)


Just saw this and hear you friend, but I think its more rooted in mid life over thinking, I don't like the term crisis as it applies here lol and in no small part to what you are seeing and hearing around you.

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Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?

Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:09 pm

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Armchair self-psychoanalysis time... :lol:

Whereas I've been retreating from the '80s hair stuff and the '90s alt-country/Americana/"The Jayhawks are deities" tropes and have fallen back on original prog rock to take my mind off of external distractions. I can easily lose myself in The Lamb, TFTO, Thick as a Brick, Quadrophenia, or many others from that era. I've also heavily emotionally invested in The Tragically Hip and really hope that Gord's treatments are working.
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