thegleek wrote:We just purchased a used 55 gallon tank because some of those little fishies will grow up to be real big fishies.
idchafee wrote:I thought fish grow in porportion to how much room they have. Big tank = big fish, small tank = small fish? Or no.
thegleek wrote:idchafee wrote:I thought fish grow in porportion to how much room they have. Big tank = big fish, small tank = small fish? Or no.
Heh! Highly not true. Put an oscar into a 12 gallon tank and see what happens to him after a year...
FroBozz_Inc wrote:I have heard this stated from multiple people as well. I think it depends on the fish type. I think some still get big no matter what, but that most grow to what their environment supports, within reason.
FroBozz_Inc wrote:One day, I want a big tank with Discus. Those are so awesome. Among the hardest to keep healthy though.
I've seen some amazing, memorable tanks with them though - usually in pet stores or zoos.
FroBozz_Inc wrote:Some Discus are freshwater, and some are brackish. Most of the ones I've seen are brackish, FWIW.
FroBozz_Inc wrote:Gleek, I'm not making anything up here.
Google "brackish discus" and see for yourself.
FroBozz_Inc wrote:Maybe most aren't brackish. The tanks I've seen in person that had only Discus in them, were more often brackish then freshwater, acording to the people that cared for them. Maybe that's uncommon. Maybe it's just a coincedence that I've seen more less common Discus then more common ones. I dunno.
"All Discus" are NOT "All freshwater".
edit: After further review, I have read that some Discus are 100% freshwater, some are somewhere in between freshwater and brackish, and some are brackish.
This is a dumb thing to argue about.
thegleek wrote:Haha true. But overall, NO discus are BRACKISH. I still love j00.
Edit: the stuff I'm reading more supports your point then mine. All I can say is that of the 6-7 Discus tanks I've seen and asked questions about - the answer came back "brackish" more then not. So I don't know. Maybe 4-5 pet store owners were wrong? I don't know. I know they come from the Amazon, and some come from near the delta where it empties into the ocean, where the water is brackish.
Let's let the good doctor settle this question.
drfish wrote:Yeah, unless you want to pick up some all-in-one, uniquely-shaped aquarium with high-power lighting and whatnot, a standard $10 10 gal aquarium along with what's in the old tank should do fine. Yes, there are more expensive tanks, but they're expensive for reasons that don't necessarily have any benefit unless you're looking for some sort of elegant display tank that's on center stage somewhere.A new 10 gallon should be less than $10...?
paulWTAMU wrote:Go with a bigger tank. Pricier, but easier to keep clean and stable. A 30 gallon with a small Fluval external filter=relatively easy to keep clean.
drfish wrote:Re Discus:
While Discus might be able to handle a little salt in their water (as many fish can) they aren't considered brackish water fish. In fact, the only brackish cichlids that I know of are some of the Chromides from various parts of Asia.
drfish wrote:Saltwater tanks/fish may be generically "prettier" in most people's opinions but if you want more than something that's just nice to watch you should be looking into some of the more specialized freshwater options. For me that's Tanganyikan cichilds, I've also got a Malawi tank and some puffers in an Asia style setup.
drfish wrote:The monster tank I'm building will be for Oscars and other Amazon big boys and my next tank after that will probably be a large brackish setup with mangroves growing out of the top...
We're going to have to talk at the BBQ. You've got a funky mix of fish going on there... Is your fancy yellow fish "electric yellow" by chance?
jss21382 wrote:hey drfish....where would be a good place to go in our area if one were to want to get back into having an aquarium again, I haven't looked terribly hard but all I've really seen around here is chain stores
thegleek wrote:TANGANYIKAN FTW!!! I just purchased a book for my fiance on that region alone. Those fish are incredible! I just wish our t. moori (firecracker) was more outgoing rather than being shy and hiding behind the slate rock so much.
thegleek wrote:Oh gawd. Please don't get involved with Oscar fish. They're the endall for the entire hobby of fish. They grow very large, they are the ultimate dirtiest fish ever. And they'll eat ANYTHING known to man.
thegleek wrote:Haha heck yeah man! I'm bringing Beth with me too. I've already informed her of you and your hobby. She actually asked me if you are selling any of your older unused tanks? 55 gallon or large only.
As for the yellow fish, I'm pretty sure it's an electric yellow. But not 100% sure on that. I'll get back to ya.