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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:17 pm

I've been watching the King of DIY and decided I would do a variation of this aquarium stand build sized for my tank with 2"x6" redwood construction grade lumber. I sold off the filtration system which was sized for a 2-3000 gallon system (and very loud) and donated the proceeds to SITOK. I'm going to wrap with 3/4" plywood but instead of doors on the front; I will use velcroed panels. On the fence about putting plywood on the top because this tank supports only on the sides and is drilled for salt water. If I do put plywood on the top, I would add cut outs at the back corners for free access to the fittings and put a good polycoat over it. I've got my drains (2" pipe with 3" shower drain at top) and returns (1.5" with 3/4" outlet for loc-line dual nozzle) and 2" bulkheads with 1" threads below and 1" slip above. My pump is a Pan World 100PX that is reasonably quiet and has been running my old system for many years. I've got my own hand rolled in-line 3' x 4" transparent PVC fluidized bed for aerobic filtration. I'm going to put a second column of pumice after the fluidized bed to get anarobic nitrate reduction then finish off with my present in-line Aqua 15W UV sterilizer.I'm going to put in 1" ball valves at the drains and returns so I can swap things out without serious leaks. I'm going to put plywood above the bottom bracing and then polycoat the inside of the stand so that leaks don't get through to the hardwood floor beneath. I'll also polycoat the outside of the stand so that leaks don't weaken the frame. My civil engineering GF says I should not put plywood on the very bottom (1) because spilled water might leave me with water beneath the stand with no way for it to dry out and (2) it won't significantly improve weight distribution on the floor. My last stand (55gal) used 4"x4" and 3/4" plywood wrap. It was heavy but open at the bottom so water spills were never a problem for the flooring beneath because the contact are could dry out easily. Maybe the plywood wrap should stop 2" above the floor to facilitate drying out. What do you guys think?
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:18 pm

Yeah I wouldn't do plywood. I'd leave the inside open. That's how my sump is under the 120g.
 
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:32 am

When my wife and I get a house, I've had a crazy idea to get/make multiple takes with large tubes connecting them. Is that remotely feasible? How hard would/necessary would that be to clean? Hmm, I suppose with the proper valve setup, one could close off parts for draining. Hmm, I wonder if I could make a fish/motion detector so that if I wanted to empty a tank, valves would stay open unless a fish tried going back in. Guess that depends on the speed of the valves verses the speed of the fish -- would need to have it significantly faster to prevent fish injury. Maybe it would just be easier to have robot fish.

I've never really had fish before, so if I seem (too?) crazy, let me know.

We have cats, so they'd enjoy seeing the fish and slapping at them -- though, how bad is this for the fish? Do they get used to it or will it do psychological damage to them? I know they might just be fish, but I don't want them tortured.
 
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:34 am

Most fish won't care about other animals. As long as they aren't physically threatened, they should be fine.
For tubes, it's not hard to do, you just have to create a vaccuum in the tubes so that water sucks up there. It would be the same pressure as in the tanks, so the fish would swim through it fine. I had that setup with PVC a few years ago, but with opaque PVC. I had the pump in 2nd tank that pumped water to the 1st, then it would flow back through the pipes. I also fed the fish in the first, so they learned to swim back through pretty quick. I ended up having to put a valve in the top and the a very small pump that would turn on each night to suck all the air out to keep the pressure. I took that down when I upgraded from 2x55g to 1x120g.
 
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:44 pm

My aquarium stand is finished. I used Eleven 10' x 2" x 6" boards. Its a thing of beauty. I'll try to get some pictures up tonight. :D
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:30 pm

Wow, Necro thread! Since this thread went dead, I broke down and got a 110 tall, and re-finished a stand to go with it. A few weeks ago I introduced something nasty into my aquarium and lost 3/4 of all fish. Nothing visible, but I think it was some microbiome in my canister filter had a major battle and lost so my water quality went to hell. I tried everything to recover, and all I could do is wait for it to settle out.

The kiddo got bored with the hobby and dropped it for a few years, but then won a goldfish at the fair a few weeks ago. He set up a 10 gallon and off we go again!

Oh, then I got a real aquarium:

https://goo.gl/photos/79GpFEpTBjA8enqi7

Best, most fun thing I have ever done! This album was a few years ago, and we are still enjoying it. It is fun to swim with the fishes! It however has taken a lot of time away from the computing hobby.
 
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:31 pm

That's cheating.
 
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:11 pm

liquidsquid wrote:
Wow, Necro thread! Since this thread went dead, I broke down and got a 110 tall, and re-finished a stand to go with it. A few weeks ago I introduced something nasty into my aquarium and lost 3/4 of all fish. Nothing visible, but I think it was some microbiome in my canister filter had a major battle and lost so my water quality went to hell. I tried everything to recover, and all I could do is wait for it to settle out.

The kiddo got bored with the hobby and dropped it for a few years, but then won a goldfish at the fair a few weeks ago. He set up a 10 gallon and off we go again!

Oh, then I got a real aquarium: https://goo.gl/photos/79GpFEpTBjA8enqi7

Best, most fun thing I have ever done! This album was a few years ago, and we are still enjoying it. It is fun to swim with the fishes! It however has taken a lot of time away from the computing hobby.


wow.. necrothread comes alive indeed! it's been over 6+ years since we last spoke. and we've owned your 135# tank for all those years and got so much pleasure out of it. but liquidsquid, we finally ended up
selling it (for super cheap - like $50 for everything, including filters, extra smaller tanks, pumps, etc) to a friend who had more of a spark in this hobby then we did. he turned it into a salt water tank and
it looks real nice. fun to know how things end up, eh?

and new owner even sent me photos of his progress:

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.. and the finished product!

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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:52 am

I'll admit I've lost most interest in my aquarium, but I'm committed to taking proper care of the fish. Damned if I can find a picture of him at the moment, but I have a 15 year old sailfin Pleco named Hernan. A few generations of fish have come and gone in my 35 gallon tank since Hernan has been keeping things clean. Since I'm not too invested anymore, the only other tank inhabitants are another Pleco that I can't remember why I got about 10 years ago of some other plec. species, (they seem to get along fine), some bleeding hearts and six scissortails at the moment.
 
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:17 am

I miss that old aquarium, but my wife doesn't. It took up too much space in the living room. Looks like it is in great use!

Now I get to swim with Koi that are likely in the 10lb range, just huge. And perch that the original stockers are averaging around 12 inches long.
 
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:37 pm

I have my nice happy 30 gallon with a betta and a bristlenose pleco and tons of plants. Easy care sicne it's lightly stocked and heavily planted and decently filtered. That's how I like doing fish


Though I would still like a nice 500 gallon community tank...that someone else had to clean and maintain :lol:
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:56 pm

So sad to see Joey's recent plight with his arowana. Breaks my heart. (Of YouTube fame)
 
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:32 pm

This weekend we had a neighbor go under the house and sister 4 joists and add two sets of posts and beams (at each end below where my aquarium is located) across the 4 joists for further support for the floor under my 200 gallon aquarium. I've been running with only 10 inches of water for a month. I filled it full and its fabulous. I'll post pictures soon.
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:47 pm

Wow, Mr Bill, another former 2CPUer. :o I've been into planted tanks since 2004, but a couple of cross-country moves a few years back did that in.
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:12 pm

Around July my wife and kids saw Betta fish at a big box pet store. I broke down and agreed to get a 2.5 gallon tank with a small filter, 2 plants, and a single fish. I diligently did water changes every week. The fish did great until the last 2-3 weeks. This morning we had a dead fish. I suspect it was water temperature, our house is 69-70F. I did a bit of research and it turns out Betta's do better in water that is 78-80F, 72F minimum. It upsets me the stores sell these kits(some as small as 1 Gallon) and really the fish probably need some type of water heater too. Now I need to decide do I get a water heater and another fish.

PS I would probably like to get a 5-10 Gallon tank over the 2.5 Gallon if we do this again.
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:00 pm

10 gallon aquariums were the standard size when I was a kid. My favorite tank was a 20 gallon long. The little electric heaters are easy to install and operate, but they weren't totally reliable decades ago.
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:08 pm

yeah, I woudln't keep a betta in less than 5 gallon; and at that point 10's are usually actually cheaper to buy for some weird assed reason.
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:34 pm

I must confess that a 20-long is also my favorite. Easy to manage, stable enough that a loss in power wont wipe out your fish quickly in the winter or have too fast of changes in PH.

Make sure to spend a reasonable amount of money on a well-rated water heater. The cheap ones fail, and not in a safe way. My son's aquarium turned into a tropical fish stew from a mid-range heater sticking on. Water was about 180 degrees when we found it.
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