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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:56 am

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I'm torn, I really wanted to do a tank with a big school of corydoras habrosus as the primary attraction, but the allure of cichlids is calling me...

Do it! I love, love Cory's. I think I had upwards of 20 in 120g at one point. Right now I'm down to ~6 albino's.
Also, resist the Cichlid siren song. They're pretty, but not worth it. They'll kill and plants any don't play well with others.
 
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:41 am

I still have my 110gal tall running strong, it is a great addition to the living room in the middle of winter.
I have it balanced very nicely, so I am not doing ANYTHING to it but changing water and scraping off algae on occasion. Fish are thriving. I bought 10 neons about 8 months ago. I still have 10 neons. That is nothing short of a miracle for me. Right now it is a mix of rainbows, tetras, a lone horny guppy, a pleco, and some ancient loaches (9 years now?).

The big "aquarium" is coming back to life, though I lost a lot of big fish this winter because I didn't get to plow off the snow. Frankly after a few close calls trying to open up the pond for skating, I just didn't feel like it. Now I have an algae bloom that I am hoping the tadpoles will fix for me when the time comes.
 
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:55 am

Oh man, the hits keep coming. :evil: :lol: Relaxing on the couch last night watching 'Saving Mr Banks' when the leak alarm goes off. We rush around wondering if its one of our three UPS systems protecting equipment and then I notice the aquarium has lost 4-6 inches of water.

It was dribbling out from beneath one of the bottom strain straps beneath the tank. The tank only being supported on its outer edges. We quickly parted one of the return lines for the pump and started it running into a couple of successive tubs on the front porch (to catch any fish that managed to venture down the drain. I pulled the drain and return on the corner of the tank nearest the door and laid a net over the gaping holes. The darned clown loaches were fascinated by the drain and I had to chase them away from it with another net and caught most of them with one go. One of the disadvantages of tight schooling. :D When there was only about 6 inches of water remaining, the leaking had slowed down considerably. We used up all our clean towls but that was the extent of actual water on the floor once we got a small tub positioned under the leak. Most of it fell into the sump area containing pumps and pipes.

We then netted out all the fish into a big tub and fitted it out with life support. Looks like they all made it except one clown loach. I picture him wandering down in the plumbing somewhere.... "guys, anybody here?" and then the oxygen runs out. Actually, he should not have been able to get into the UV or anarobic system since the flow lines would not favor that. But he never came out in the tubs.

I'll take out the gravel tonight and try to figure out if this is a seal leak or an actual crack. Man, I have never had a bottom failure in all the years I've kept fish (since 1968).
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:12 pm

Might as well go ahead and re-silicone the entire tank. Just to be on the safe side
 
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:05 pm

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Might as well go ahead and re-silicone the entire tank. Just to be on the safe side
Yeah, I just watched a King of DIY video on how to do it. I've got a 55 out in the garage. Think I will clean it up and reseal it first and set it up as a temporary home while I work on the 200.
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:06 pm

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Usacomp2k3 wrote:
Might as well go ahead and re-silicone the entire tank. Just to be on the safe side
Yeah, I just watched a King of DIY video on how to do it. I've got a 55 out in the garage. Think I will clean it up and reseal it first and set it up as a temporary home while I work on the 200.

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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:20 pm

He's grown on me, but I was not a fan of his style when I first came across him. Lots of great info on his channel though, and he's very genuine. I built my one and only plywood aquarium back in 2012 or so 2006, long before I'd ever heard of him. I was copying a guy over on cichlid-forum.com that made an 800 1122.08 gallon plywood tank in his basement (actually stopped by to visit him in Ohio on my way to Pittsburgh once).

Edit: Holy crap, it was 2006 that I built that tank... My original thread is lost to time, but here are some images from way back then...
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:14 am

Well, that did take long... My 33 long is just starting to come together. I'm going completely the opposite direction of my beloved rift lake buddies and have a cheap RO/DI unit arriving tomorrow. I also have a bundle of botanicals coming in from tanninaquatics.com. My plan is to house checkerboard cichlids within a month or so. Probably some ottos and/or cories too. Maybe even some cardinals, but I'm not sure I want that much bling. This video is close to what I'm going for.

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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:42 pm

That link took me eventually to checkerboard cichlids. Those are pretty cool. Are you going to use a second tank as a refugium?
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:55 pm

I'm not planning on it. However, I'm digging the idea of lucky bamboo or mangroves sticking out of one, so who knows? I really expect to stick with a simple setup for awhile, though. So far, it's scratching an old itch and also serving as an early science project for my toddler to observe. Good enough for now.
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:39 am

Ah, I just saw the tank with java moss next to your big tank and thought: hmmm, why not hook those together somehow. Get the top surfaces level and passive flow from one and pump back from the other. I've seen those acrylic tanks in stores where one over flows into the other and then water is pumped back. They make a nice sound. Although, my wife says to her it sounds like flooding and it would wake her up.
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:55 am

One of the things that I was surprised to find out was the my wife cannot stand aquarium water noise. I had no idea because in our last house all my tanks were in the basement and it never came up. In the new house, the tanks are in the living area and noise is a strict no-no. This is why you always run small-scale testing first! :) The result is that I ended up with a canister filter instead of a HOB.

The tiny shrimp tank gets treated tap water but the 33 long will get the full RO/DI treatment and lots of tannins, so I wouldn't mix them anyway. I'm stoked to start making RO/DI water tonight and get pissed about how long it's taking to fill a bucket. ;)
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:55 pm

We are going to reroute our irrigation ditch through the yard with maybe a shallow pond. One of the ideas I am toying with is to somehow put in a bamboo rocking fountain like those so common in Japanese Anime and gardens. That splash and hollow boom would be so neat. Hoping I could use the flow to pump a fraction of the water up to fill the bamboo. Might drive the neighbors crazy. :D
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:56 am

Great, now I need to go watch Kill Bill again. ;)

Also, I should have a bunch of neat stuff to share about my new tank soon. I'll probably order these plants by the end of the week and toss some otocinclus into the tank after the plants arrive to get it cycling.
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:49 pm

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Great, now I need to go watch Kill Bill again. ;)

Also, I should have a bunch of neat stuff to share about my new tank soon. I'll probably order these plants by the end of the week and toss some otocinclus into the tank after the plants arrive to get it cycling.
Argggg! That is the plant that I bought at a local nursery that coincidentally brought in both snails and the filament algae that killed off my cichlid tank.... Possibly its safe if bought from an "aquarium" supplier. Do you go through some sort of decontamination routine?
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:56 pm

OMG, that was the plant? Oof. I'll be adding the plants before I put any fish in the tank, and the fish I'll put in next are, well, disposable if it comes to it. I was going to rise them well, with tap water, and then go ahead and toss them in. I wasn't planning on setting up any sort of quarantine tank until the system is established enough to not be experimental anymore. By then, I may not want to add anymore fish anyway, it'll be "done."
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:18 pm

I think the king od DIY has some sort of video on pretreating plants to keep them from bringing in bad stuff. But I just tossed mine in and the pond water they came from must have had the bad stuff that got out of control in my tank.
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:42 pm

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I think the king od DIY has some sort of video on pretreating plants to keep them from bringing in bad stuff. But I just tossed mine in and the pond water they came from must have had the bad stuff that got out of control in my tank.


EDIT: Found this on line... How to Bleach Dip Aquarium Plants at 0:31 she waves a list of instructions. Basically make a 1:19 dilution of household bleach, dip entire plant in it for 2 minutes. Put equal amount of water, and some dechlorinator in a bucket (she uses same container) and put plants in it for 3 minutes; do the dechlorination step a second time. Plants are now ready for planting.

That active ingredient in dechlorinator is sodium thiosulfate pentahydrate. I use ACS reagent grade but I'm sure food grade would be fine. You can get it cheap as the granular form. I put ~90 grams in 250 mL of water. Each drop will dechlorinate one gallon of tap water.

Edit: I hate it when I quote instead of just adding a bit. DOH :D
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:06 pm

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One of the ideas I am toying with is to somehow put in a bamboo rocking fountain like those so common in Japanese anime and gardens. That splash and hollow boom would be so neat.

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Great, now I need to go watch Kill Bill again. ;)

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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Fri May 03, 2019 9:08 am

It's still a work in progress, but it's coming along... Really impressed by how fast the Phyllanthus Fluitans are growing...

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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Fri May 03, 2019 11:47 am

Possibly because I have crushed coral for gravel... But I don't dare put wood in my tank because it immediately grows heavy algae. Must be a pH thing. But now having found out I can dip plants in chlorox. I may try some plantings also.

We have built a new stand built for the old oceanic 55gal and we are going to put it at the end of and perpendicular to the 200gal, right at the corner turn so you walk past it coming into the house. Tonight I am resealing the 55gal. I hope to have the fish moved into it by Sunday night. Then I will start working on clearing out the 200gal for resealing.
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Fri May 03, 2019 2:54 pm

I never had plants in the big tank because the #*%#^* cichlids would destroy them. Now that I’ve sold them, the guppies are much more plant friendly. I need to pick up some more plants to go in there.
 
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Fri May 03, 2019 10:27 pm

Just finished resealing the 55gal tonight. I followed this King of DIY How to reseal your aquarium. My glass is 1/2" thick. So with 1/2 inch open on either side of the join; It took two full gun tubes of sealant. :o I used a 45 degree 1.5 inch PVC joint to pull along the join to make a smooth seal. :D However, I must say the blue paint tape sticks so well to the glass that it tore several time taking it off. :-? This necessitated using the razor to restart the tape pealing with some swearing because restarted tape had slippery sealant on the tape while trying to grip it.

Acetone on paper towel takes any drips right off, and good for cleanup of hands and tools. Leaning into tank while trying to grab tape was like breathing under water in vinegar, thus the swearing. The big 200 is going to be a challenge.
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Mon May 13, 2019 4:53 pm

Tank is up and running. I put about 5 pounds of sand in a 20 gallon plastic tub with the fish a couple weeks ago. I rinsed out enough sand to do the 55 gal and then dumped it into the tank to an inch deep. Next I filled the tank with water and dechlorinated it. I moved the heater over to the tank and ran enough hot water into the tank to bring it up to temp. At this point tank only 60% full. Moved about half the water in the tub into the tank. Netted out fish and transferred to new tank. Finally, put that old gravel from the tub into the tank over the undergravel filter and then the remainder of the water from the tub. The fish are doing fine and I expect the combination of gravel and water from the tub has taken care of ammonia cycle. They seem happy. I'll post a couple pictures tonight.
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Tue May 14, 2019 6:58 pm

OK here we go...

close up of 55gal

Empty 200 next to resealed 55

wrapped around desk

Whew :D What a pain to make these photos public :lol:
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Wed May 15, 2019 6:23 am

Are you doing 2-sided viewing? I personally never liked that and always paint the back of the tank for better contrast. But if you need to see both sides, you don't really have a choice.
Looks good though!
 
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Re: Fish hobbyist thread (aquariums and tanks - not the sport)

Wed May 15, 2019 7:37 am

I like two-sided viewing, I've just never had the space for it, layout-wise, not space-wise. I dig the idea of wrapping the tanks around your desk.
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Wed May 15, 2019 12:21 pm

You can see the front door from the desk through the 200 gal. Its a pretty small house. I inherited the bankers desk and its huge. There is nowhere else in the house to put it. We like being able to see the living room and kitchen through (and over) the tank as we come indoors and conversely being able to look over at the tank from the living room and kitchen areas. The lights have programmable illumination curves. So it gets bluish and then purple as it goes down to 1%. The orange and yellow fish seem to glow in the dark.

The cat feels that the desk is his personal viewing area for chasing the fish. He also likes to chase the surface feeders up on top of the 200.
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