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Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:45 pm

I don't like this new bond, he just doesn't seem to fit as a bond.
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I lament the passing of Pierce Brosnan. He was an awesome Bond. We'll have to see... I'll probably go within the next couple weeks because my girlfriend gets all hot and bothered by James Bond. Well, she gets all hot and bothered by lots of things, but why not take advantage of a good thing. :-)


Don't lament.

I'm tired, I won't paste my review a third time, but I thought Brosnan (and more specifically, Brosnan's bond) was one of the best things that had happened to the franchise. He took what we had come to know as bond and worked it like nobody else.

I think they picked Brosnan for Bond, and did a good job. With Craig, I don't see Craig. I see someone I can believe MI6 picked to do a down deep, wetworks job.

This bond, Craig's bond, just kicks tail. It's a gritty, business, no nonsense bond. Argueably (and thankfully), it's helped by the writing...of both the movie and the role. Actually adapting from the first bond novel brought it to a realer, dirtier, more visceral level, and honestly I would not have bought Brosnan in this role, certainly not after the way the bond roles were written in the last three movies.

Craig doesn't step into Brosnan's shoes (he's closest to an updated Connery, if anything), and he doesn't take anything away from his predecessor. This is a new bond, for what I hope will be a new porrayal of Bond. I thought the film was good, very good. I dare say it may even be best, and I only hesitate because it's hard to judge across differing values, and admittedly, it's got the "new car smell" to it.
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Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:56 pm

Oh heck. As long as I'm babeling, I'll copy and paste what I wrote elsewhere. I'm interested in seeing what other people thought.

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Go. See. Casino. Royale.

That's my short review.

To not ruin it for you: This is one of the better, if not the best bond film I've seen*. They've stripped out the excessive action, the special effects, the saving the world. Bond has a job to do, he gets it done.

I thought Brosnan was one of the better things to come along for the Bond franchise. He took the all the things the bond series had become, and wore it with such style he made it his own, and he made it work. That bond, and its story is the one that would belong in a five star restaurant.

This is the bond I would take into a pub. This isn't a world where it's great to be a double-0, it's one where it's ****, and Craig delivers. It's gritty. It has consequences.

Go watch it.

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* granted, it's hard to do a straight comparison because Bond has become the recurring figure whose storytelling reflects the time it was told in.
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Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:15 am

Just got back and thought it was awesome. I like the direction this movie took.
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:11 am

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If he's back to be more Connery like, then this is definitely going back to old school. I see that as a good thing really, as Brosnan's are nicely done, but getting a bit formularic and excessive (action, explosions and FX). It may be that refreshing experience that the "franchise" needs.

Now I need to decide whether I should watch Borat first or this. Decisions, decisions... :roll:
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Now I need to decide whether I should watch Borat first or this. Decisions, decisions... :roll:
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Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:14 pm

I liked Goldeneye and the bond movie with the stealth boat. Those were the only two decent ones out of brosnan's library, IMHO.

goldeneye is still my favorite bond movie of all times. It is also up there on my list of favorite console games of all time.
 
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Just got back from seeing it. I loved it. It's damn good film. Well worth watching it in the cinema (or movie theatre, if you're that way inclined :wink: )

Love the foot chases...very exciting! And of course, the ground shaking purr of an aston martin. Goddamn they are sexy cars!
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:04 pm

Having only seen the Pierce Brosnan Bond movies, it was definitely very different. My initial reaction was that it didn't feel like James Bond(as I have known it), but I suspect if I were actually to read the books I might agree that this movie was closer to the style of the books rather than the previous four movies.

It was very well done. But I had a hard time getting over how much Craig looked like Vladimir Putin. :o
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:36 pm

I'm in the same boat, only I have to factor in taking my kids with me.


uhm...unless you're kids are adults stay the hell away from borat with them, there's a scene in that movie that will scar them for life if they're still impressionable.
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Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:04 pm

Now you've left me curious... what scene would that be?
 
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uhm...unless you're kids are adults stay the hell away from borat with them, there's a scene in that movie that will scar them for life if they're still impressionable.
They're teens...have seen all of the Ali G shows, , Saw I & II, Hostel, Full Metal Jacket, and Clockwork Orange. The damage has been done.
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Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:38 am

Saw it last night, thought it was really good. It's certainly a lot harder, almost no gadgets and stuff, although he still does the shoot-something-that-falls-on-the-bad-guys ****. And Eva Green as Vesper is great; gorgeous and funny, clever, a real character not just a throwaway bond girl. I was really sad at the end when the [non-spoiler] happens.
 
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Having only seen the Pierce Brosnan Bond movies, it was definitely very different. My initial reaction was that it didn't feel like James Bond(as I have known it), but I suspect if I were actually to read the books I might agree that this movie was closer to the style of the books rather than the previous four movies.
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Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:24 pm

They're teens...have seen all of the Ali G shows, , Saw I & II, Hostel, Full Metal Jacket, and Clockwork Orange. The damage has been done.


well...it'll just expand on their damage then, the scene is definately in a different category than the movies you've mentioned
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Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:28 pm

echo_seven wrote:
Having only seen the Pierce Brosnan Bond movies, it was definitely very different. My initial reaction was that it didn't feel like James Bond(as I have known it), but I suspect if I were actually to read the books I might agree that this movie was closer to the style of the books rather than the previous four movies.
Maybe, maybe not. I've read a few of the novels and they are, for the most part, very different from the movies. The movies are fun, but the books... well, Roger Moore's Bond was probably the closest match between screen & print. That's not a compliment, BTW.
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Now you've left me curious... what scene would that be?


I think it would most likely be the hotel scene.
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Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:30 pm

I want to do naughty things with Eva Green. Anybody else with me? :drool
 
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Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:06 pm

house wrote:
I want to do naughty things with Eva Green. Anybody else with me? :drool


I think the other chick is even hotter then Eva Green. But I will take 'em both on in a three-some :D
 
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:30 pm

I saw this last night, and have to say, I love it. It's much grittier and rough around the edges than the other Bond movies. You get the feel Craig's Bond is not some super sexy 00 agent yet (which he's not). The acting and writing for Craig is like an updated Sean Connery...Craig is in the running for best Bond...we'll have to see how #22 does.

The plot line reeked of the original novel, which was good, but I also felt like it was kind of played out too much. Why are you playing cards with a man financing terrorism...just shoot him in the head and be done with it. It did make for a cool movie though.

I would recommend it to anyone...Craig just rocks as bond IMO.

Oh also, the torture scene was absolutely horrific. I couldn't hardly watch...that looked so painful.
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:56 pm

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Oh also, the torture scene was absolutely horrific. I couldn't hardly watch...that looked so painful.


Now the whole world is going to know ...mfffrrflfff *gets sacked by the spoiler filter*

That part was both painful and awesome :D
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gibson wrote:
I saw this last night, and have to say, I love it. It's much grittier and rough around the edges than the other Bond movies. You get the feel Craig's Bond is not some super sexy 00 agent yet (which he's not). The acting and writing for Craig is like an updated Sean Connery...Craig is in the running for best Bond...we'll have to see how #22 does.

The plot line reeked of the original novel, which was good, but I also felt like it was kind of played out too much. Why are you playing cards with a man financing terrorism...just shoot him in the head and be done with it. It did make for a cool movie though.

I would recommend it to anyone...Craig just rocks as bond IMO.

Oh also, the torture scene was absolutely horrific. I couldn't hardly watch...that looked so painful.


If you don't know why he was playing poker with him, you obviously paid little attention to the plot. Bond specifically states why he is going to play in the game at one point :roll:
 
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gibson wrote:
The plot line reeked of the original novel, which was good, but I also felt like it was kind of played out too much. Why are you playing cards with a man financing terrorism...just shoot him in the head and be done with it. It did make for a cool movie though.
There are a couple ways to answer this question.

Seriously:
Terrorism financing needs more than one person to happen successfully. If you suspect someone is funneling money to terrrorists, there are at least two other people doing the same: the one giving him money and the the one receiving money from him. If you just shoot him in the head, the other two people will find someone else to fill the role he played. What you want is to get information out of him and find out how big the financing network is, so you can roll it all up.

Stylistically:
That would have made for a really short movie, don't you think?
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:54 pm

The Best James Bond ever. Better than than Connery! My favorite episode so far, and I've been to the theater to see every one of them since the late 60's. (yea, I'm old! :) )

This is the way a hired killer does his job. Bam! You're dead, bad guy! No campy tongue-in-cheek crap either! Just damn good action and even a good plot!
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Looking for Knowledge wrote:
Flying Fox wrote:
Now I need to decide whether I should watch Borat first or this. Decisions, decisions... :roll:
I'm in the same boat, only I have to factor in taking my kids with me.


Your kids might cry at the end of the movie over Bond's loss and you don't want them to see Borat, trust me...

By the way, I wasn't prepared for heart breaking romance in a Bond movie. Totally took me offguard. I feel so sad. Even now :( I think I'm gonna cry! :cry: I'm such a pansy :oops:
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house wrote:
I want to do naughty things with Eva Green. Anybody else with me? :drool

You need to see a movie called The Pretenders.

I really enjoyed the new Bond. I went in fully prepared to make the best of another silly techy smugfest of a movie and got a great action film instead. I don't know how they follow this up without repeating and falling into the formula trap, but I hope they try and succeed. I think Craig makes a great Bond - I can't imagine anyone better for this new style.

Great opening title, too, if you're into that sort of thing.
 
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Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:54 am

Sean's still the man, but he is damn fine ;o
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I was really impressed with CR. they seemed to do what they always should have done with bond - make him a one-man pain-train, rather than a man in a tux/suit with a gun and a car. Makes the whole elite '00' agent thing a lot more believable.
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It was ok, I give it a solid C, maybe a C+. The new Bond actor is excellent, but the movie itself was kind of blah. I found it to be 1) too long, mostly because of the unnecessary love story arc between Bond and what's her name, and 2) it had too much action for a Bond movie. Fifteen minutes into the film my eyes were starting to glaze over from the extended sequence in Africa. Sorry, but Bond's supposed to be a little more subtle than that. OK, a lot more subtle.

Chop about 30 minutes off, lose the OHMSS "Bond's in love" schtick (which added nothing but convolution to the story), and make Bond a spy instead of an action hero, and it would've been much better. I was seriously checking my watch in the theater on this one.
 
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The new Bond guy was on Parky (talkshow thing) and he said the love story was needed as character development cause it makes Bond into who he is in the future therefore he had to fall in love and get his heart broken yadda yadda.

pish to me.
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