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Beat seperation

Mon Jun 09, 2003 3:51 am

Hi

Does anybody know of any program that can seperate the singer's voice from the beat/music.


Thanks :)
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Mon Jun 09, 2003 4:51 am

(Since this is a .edu site the bandwidth is cheap and aplenty I'll direct link it)

THIS is how you separate the voices from the music.

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Lets not go to drastic measures. :D
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Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:24 am

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Mon Jun 09, 2003 2:11 pm

Hey that works.
 
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Tue Jun 10, 2003 12:22 am

Do you mean you want to have just the voice, or just the backing track?

Most pop/rock music has the lead vocal (and usually bass) mixed as the center channel, with everything else mixed off center. You can remove the center channel by doing a "left minus right" calculation... this will leave you with the backing track, possibly minus the bass.

At some point, I wrote a command line program that will do this to a 16-bit stereo .wav file... if you're interested, I can see if I can dig it up and post it.
 
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Tue Jun 10, 2003 3:24 am

Oh thanks just brew it!, so there is a way. :)

I just wanted to create a funny tune about a friend. My voice is too bad though, I think my cousin sounds a bit better. Wait a second after a trial it was not true, we both sound really really bad.

Anyway if you can find that command line it would make things easier. I want to use Jessie's girl by Rick Springfield as the background tune.

It would be soo funny. :lol: With a bit of word changing. :D

But I have the MP3 format of the song, will that cause some difficulities. I can send you guys the finished song. It would sound soo bad; I can imagine, but probably will be worth a laugh. We already made the beta :lol: :D :wink: Though I think its toooooo bad to share. :D
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Tue Jun 10, 2003 3:26 am

I just want the backing track. :)
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Tue Jun 10, 2003 11:26 am

OK, try downloading this command line tool:
http://justbrewit.net/download/zapcenter.exe

You will need to convert the MP3 file to 16-bit stereo .wav format first. If you don't have a tool to do this, download a copy of Musicmatch, or get an eval copy of Nero Wave Editor (comes with the Nero package).

Then run:

zapcenter filename

in a command prompt window. This should cancel the center (L+R) channel out of the specified .wav file, leaving you with what is essentially a mono .wav file containing only the side channel (L-R) information. As I mentioned previously, you may also lose most of the bass, depending on how the track was mixed.

This tool was essentially a half-hour hack I did about a year ago, in response to a similar request on another forum... I just re-tested it before posting it to the server, but I make no guarantees. :wink:
 
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Wed Jun 11, 2003 3:40 am

Thanks :) but I can't seem to get it to work. I open the file all I get is a command prompt window that intantly disapears.

Am I missing something. :)
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Wed Jun 11, 2003 4:26 am

If it is a command prompt program I think you need to run it from a command prompt. It's in Accessories folder. It parses a variable (the wave file), so you type the command and the song file variable.
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Wed Jun 11, 2003 4:36 am

Tried the program. It works, but really depends on how the MP3 was encoded. Wow, justbrewit, fabulous program. :wink:
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Wed Jun 11, 2003 7:30 am

Glad to hear it worked out. Yes, quality of MP3 encoding will affect how well it works; MP3s encoded at high bitrate and/or with "Joint Stereo" encoding will probably give better results. Best case is probably using a .wav ripped directly from the original CD. Also in some cases the vocals may be mixed slightly "off center", in which case the program won't be able to remove them.
 
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Wed Jun 11, 2003 8:00 am

I think I am just pathetic. :lol: Just can't get it to work.

I'll tell my friend about it, hope he can find out how. Apparently it should work.
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Wed Jun 11, 2003 8:06 am

1. Download the zapcenter.exe file, and save it in a new folder.

2. Convert your MP3 file to .wav format by whatever means you have at your disposal (or rip a fresh copy directly to .wav format). Save the converted file (let's call it myfile.wav) it in the same folder where you saved zapcenter.exe.

3. Open a command (DOS prompt) window, and navigate to the folder where you saved the two files from step 1 and 2.

4. In the command prompt window, type: zapcenter myfile.wav

5. Play myfile.wav with whatever audio player app you prefer (e.g. Winamp).

(Sometimes I forget that there's a whole generation of computer users out there who have never used the DOS command prompt! :D)
 
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Wed Jun 11, 2003 3:36 pm

YBK wrote:
I think I am just pathetic. :lol: Just can't get it to work.

I'll tell my friend about it, hope he can find out how. Apparently it should work.

Someone from the point and click generation :-)
No offense YBK.

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JBI stated the same above, didn't read the entire thread :-)
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Wed Jun 11, 2003 5:31 pm

JustBrewIt wrote:
1. Download the zapcenter.exe file, and save it in a new folder.

2. Convert your MP3 file to .wav format by whatever means you have at your disposal (or rip a fresh copy directly to .wav format). Save the converted file (let's call it myfile.wav) it in the same folder where you saved zapcenter.exe.

3. Open a command (DOS prompt) window, and navigate to the folder where you saved the two files from step 1 and 2.

4. In the command prompt window, type: zapcenter myfile.wav

5. Play myfile.wav with whatever audio player app you prefer (e.g. Winamp).

(Sometimes I forget that there's a whole generation of computer users out there who have never used the DOS command prompt! )


Thanks I will try it when i return from school. :)

I was trying clicking and draging the file into DOS, then clicking and dragging the wav. :-?
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Fri Jun 13, 2003 6:44 am

Hi

Yey it works thanks to my cousin. The voice of the artist is a bit in the background though. (Mp3 compression I guess)

Anyway thanks :)
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