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AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:44 am

I think the back porch is right place for this if not please move.

So I recently bought my first Ar. I got a Stag model 2. I did not realize how hard it would be to get ammo. I live in PA where there are not many laws stopping me from getting it but it just seems to sell out everywhere. I wanna buy in bulk of at least 400rds. I know there are people here who have gun obsessions so I was curious if any of you guys were having the same issues or if you know any online sites that have cheap .223 or 5.56 ammo actually in stock. Also no steel casing only brass please.
Also curious if anyone else has AR's and maybe we can get some pics going.
 
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:59 am

You want the "Gun pr0n!" thread that's been going for several years.

Can't help you with the ammo; my usual supplier doesn't have large quantities of that caliber in brass and none of mine shoot it anyway.
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:04 am

This is why I love TR. You can ask a question about anything, and in just a few minutes someone either has a quality answer for you, a rant about how you're doing it wrong, or both.

Props to pfntn for what looks like a great link, too.

Ninja edit: I posted before I saw bthylafh's reply. I was not talking about his reply.
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:28 am

try ammuntiontogo.

Lots of the people I know that shoot a lot get thiers there (I don't shoot enough to warrant it).
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:15 am

In my personal order of preference:

1) http://www.ammoman.com - Eric the AmmoMan is fantastic. He ships insanely fast, has great prices, fair selection and fantastic customer service. He doesn't have the depth of selection as some places, but when he has it in stock, you're golden.

2) http://www.sportsmansguide.com - Lots of shooting stuff and good deals on ammunition. They sell quality stuff, cheap stuff & crap stuff. They also get some of the weirder, obscure stuff. It's well worth it to sign up for their membership club. It's also a decent place to get emergency preparedness stuff.

3) http://www.cheaperthandirt.com - Not technically true, but still great prices. They give bulk discounts, but they seem to be allergic to ordering by the case. You end up ordering 10 boxes to get the same amount, but with comparable prices.
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:19 am

Thanks for the information guys. I have used sportsmansguide and cheaperthan dirt. But all of their bulk stuff is sold out. I will check ammo man as soon as I leave work. As my goverment comp blocks sites categorized as weapons.... Meh
 
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:34 pm

Word on the street is that there's another ammo shortage a-coming. You may be seeing it.

Try http://www.natchezss.com and http://www.grafs.com.

brownells.com may have some as well.

http://www.aimsurplus.com

http://www.jgsales.com

http://www.classicarms.us
 
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:00 pm

May I assume that the reason for the coming ammo shortage is R&P material?
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:44 pm

bthylafh wrote:
May I assume that the reason for the coming ammo shortage is R&P material?



yup. :wink:

OP, try http://www.freedommunitions.com too.
 
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:54 pm

Hey Vrock. Enough with that no computer specs in your sig crap. Live and let live. This is a computer tech site after all. As was pointed out in another thread (by you?) you can turn off sigs in your user control panel if you don't want to partake in the tech enthusiasm.
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:04 pm

End User wrote:
Hey Vrock. Enough with that no computer specs in your sig crap. Live and let live. This is a computer tech site after all. As was pointed out in another thread (by you?) you can turn off sigs in your user control panel if you don't want to partake in the tech enthusiasm.

gee wiz, I wonder what action one could undertake if one takes offence to certain signatures on this forum
 
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:15 pm

Cry more, I suppose.
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:33 pm

End User wrote:
Live and let live.
I wasn't aware I was executing nerds for posting their specs. I'll make sure to stop that immediately!

So, OT: I reload, and I would encourage anyone who wants to shoot lots of .223 to invest in a few things:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/785993 ... deluxe-kit

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/434975 ... -remington

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/107333 ... S014434975

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/476992 ... -lock-stud

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/a ... x?a=486628

Also, H4895 powder, Varget, and/or BLC-2. And small rifle primers, and bullets. Do it now while components are still relatively cheap.
 
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:48 pm

Vrock wrote:
End User wrote:
Live and let live.
I wasn't aware I was executing nerds for posting their specs. I'll make sure to stop that immediately!

Do you actually own a computer or are you just using the one at work?
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:57 pm

End User wrote:
Vrock wrote:
End User wrote:
Live and let live.
I wasn't aware I was executing nerds for posting their specs. I'll make sure to stop that immediately!

Do you actually own a computer or are you just using the one at work?


Well folks, *Puts on Sunglasses,* the ammunition is really starting to fly.
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:59 pm

etrigan420 wrote:
bthylafh wrote:
May I assume that the reason for the coming ammo shortage is R&P material?



yup. :wink:


/facepalm

People can be so stupid.
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:49 pm

Vrock wrote:
End User wrote:
Live and let live.
I wasn't aware I was executing nerds for posting their specs. I'll make sure to stop that immediately!

So, OT: I reload, and I would encourage anyone who wants to shoot lots of .223 to invest in a few things:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/785993 ... deluxe-kit

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/434975 ... -remington

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/107333 ... S014434975

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/476992 ... -lock-stud

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/a ... x?a=486628

Also, H4895 powder, Varget, and/or BLC-2. And small rifle primers, and bullets. Do it now while components are still relatively cheap.


that is exactly what i was going to suggest. or look to see if there's a shop in your area who reloads ammo. there's a gunsmith shop here in town who specializes in reloading AR and AK/SKS ammunition because the demand is so high here.
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:45 pm

End User wrote:
Vrock wrote:
End User wrote:
Live and let live.
I wasn't aware I was executing nerds for posting their specs. I'll make sure to stop that immediately!

Do you actually own a computer or are you just using the one at work?
I own a three computers, and several other appliances.
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:47 pm

bthylafh wrote:
etrigan420 wrote:
bthylafh wrote:
May I assume that the reason for the coming ammo shortage is R&P material?



yup. :wink:


/facepalm

People can be so stupid.

Yeah. It's a shame too, because if it's anything like last time, when prices do stabilize they won't be as low as before.

The only winners here are the ammo companies. :evil:
 
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

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Vrock wrote:
I own a computer

So what's with the negative waves?
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:49 pm

Vrock wrote:
The only winners here are the ammo companies. :evil:

Does an uptick in military demand for 5.56mm absorb supply that would be available for the civvy market, or are the markets completely separate? Not a trick question; just askin'.
And then of course I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left hand side.
 
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:49 pm

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I own a computer

So what's with the negative waves?

You never said anything about no Tigers.
And then of course I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left hand side.
 
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:51 pm

http://www.reliantammo.com

http://www.gun-deals.com

http://www.ammoseek.com

It's also generally considered safe to use .223 Remington in a 5.56-designated upper (the reverse, using 5.56 in a .223 weapon, is not recommended).
 
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

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You never said anything about no Tigers.

Hah. That did not take long. :)
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:55 pm

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Vrock wrote:
The only winners here are the ammo companies. :evil:

Does an uptick in military demand for 5.56mm absorb supply that would be available for the civvy market, or are the markets completely separate? Not a trick question; just askin'.

I don't know. But it doesn't seem like there would be increased military demand, given the current situation. If anything, there was a surplus, as Lake City and Federal ammo was everywhere not too long ago. I think that this "shortage", just like the last one, is mostly self-imposed.
 
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:56 pm

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Vrock wrote:
I own a computer

So what's with the negative waves?
No negative waves, I'm just not as passionate about my appliances as you are.

Or maybe I am! Check out my new, improved sig!
 
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:57 pm

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No negative waves, I'm just not as passionate about my appliances as you are.

Or maybe I am! Check out my new, improved sig!

Much better!
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Re: AR15 Ammo is hard to find

Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:01 pm

A great economical plinking load for 5.56mm/.223 is 25.0 grains of H4895 over a 55 gr FMJBT, in case anyone was wondering. Not as fast as the military fodder, but I'm punching paper, not bad guys. :)

The best thing about H4895 is that it is versatile. Works in everything from .223 to .30-06.

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