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superjawes wrote:Paul Rudd is a national treasure.
drfish wrote:I liked the soundtrack. It definitely gives Captain Marvel her own feel, much like Iron Man got from AC/DC and Guardians from 70s-ish pop, which is all it really needed to do.It says a lot that my biggest criticism is about the soundtrack, it was good, but not great. After Guardians and Thor 3, I expected more from what they had to work with.
tanker27 wrote:Even if they didn't address those things, they could be answered in Endgame. These kinds of nitpicks are just people trying to find faults in a movie (whose motives may or may not be in good faith).I can't get over the nitpicking of naysayers, well why hasn't Fury called her before like when New York was getting attacked, Where has she been?, Why haven't we seen her, plot holes this and plot holes that. If you watched the dang movie and paid attention all of that was answered!
TurtlePerson2 wrote:Part way through the movie, she leans over and apologizes for choosing the movie. Personally, I wasn't really that disappointed, as I expected mediocrity to begin with. I would consider this to be one of the weakest MCU movies to come out, not as bad as Thor 2, but maybe something a bit worse than an Iron Man sequel. I think that there were some great parts there, but ultimately it was a lot of plot shoved into a fairly short movie.
Origin movies should be the easiest to make. For those who enjoyed Captain Marvel, which MCU origin movie (e.g. Iron-Man, Captain America) would you consider this to be better than?
TurtlePerson2 wrote:Origin movies should be the easiest to make. For those who enjoyed Captain Marvel, which MCU origin movie (e.g. Iron-Man, Captain America) would you consider this to be better than?
tanker27 wrote:TurtlePerson2 wrote:Origin movies should be the easiest to make. For those who enjoyed Captain Marvel, which MCU origin movie (e.g. Iron-Man, Captain America) would you consider this to be better than?
All of them are equal, except for whatever Hulk one there was (I forget which one is a MCU one is was it Ang Lees?). And it wasnt as meh as you say it was. You sound like one of those naysayers on Rotten Tomatoes that reviewed it before even release. Most of which had an agenda. >.>
Since this movie was Female-centered I am wondering how its going to do overseas. We all know some countries just dont like that sort of thing.
tanker27 wrote:TurtlePerson2 wrote:Origin movies should be the easiest to make. For those who enjoyed Captain Marvel, which MCU origin movie (e.g. Iron-Man, Captain America) would you consider this to be better than?
All of them are equal, except for whatever Hulk one there was (I forget which one is a MCU one is was it Ang Lees?). And it wasnt as meh as you say it was. You sound like one of those naysayers on Rotten Tomatoes that reviewed it before even release. Most of which had an agenda. >.>
Since this movie was Female-centered I am wondering how its going to do overseas. We all know some countries just dont like that sort of thing.
cphite wrote:+1To be honest, I've never gotten this notion that in order to enjoy one movie in the series it has to "bump off" some other movie in the series. Each of them has good points and bad points; and every fan will have their own list of where each stands in relation to the others.
Bold statement to say ALL the DCEU movies. That franchise as a whole is a complete mess, but Patty Jenkins and crew freaking nailed it with Wonder Woman.It's still better than all of the DC movies ;D
tanker27 wrote:Ang Lee was pre-MCU. The Incredible Hulk (aka "The MCU Blind Spot") was written by Zak Penn, directed by Louis Leterrier, starring Ed Norton and Liv Tyler.All of them are equal, except for whatever Hulk one there was (I forget which one is a MCU one is was it Ang Lees?).
kvndoom wrote:You and I might have very different definitions of "the neckbeards". Captain Marvel is doing well because Marvel have grown the fandom. Marvel movies are still for "the fans", but "the fans" include much of the general movie-going public. Getting a good Black Panther film last year and Captain Marvel this year is part of their bigger strategy to include their growing audience. Wonder Woman struggled because everything leading up to it was BAD. WB/DC never captured that general audience, so they couldn't (and still can't) compete with Marvel's numbers (the studio, not the character, but also technically the character).It's very strange why the neckbeards went all-in on this movie but stayed away from wonder Woman? Maybe it's because DCEU movies have tended to get bad professional reviews compared to Marvel flicks but WW was universally loved? Never know what's going through a fanboy's mind.
TurtlePerson2 wrote:It's a mediocre movie and I think that once some time has passed everyone will realize that, just as they have with Avengers: Age of Ultron (large domestic gross, similar critic review scores to Captain Marvel). The idea of review bombing it because you don't like female superheroes is stupid, but the idea that we can't criticize direction decisions in the movie because it's about a female superhero is just as stupid.
tanker27 wrote:And the Review bombing because of misogynistic views was very, very real why are people ignoring it?
TurtlePerson2 wrote:The idea of review bombing it because you don't like female superheroes is stupid, but the idea that we can't criticize direction decisions in the movie because it's about a female superhero is just as stupid.
tanker27 wrote:TurtlePerson2 wrote:It's a mediocre movie and I think that once some time has passed everyone will realize that, just as they have with Avengers: Age of Ultron (large domestic gross, similar critic review scores to Captain Marvel). The idea of review bombing it because you don't like female superheroes is stupid, but the idea that we can't criticize direction decisions in the movie because it's about a female superhero is just as stupid.
To which you still havent explained why you think it's mediocre. And the Review bombing because of misogynistic views was very, very real why are people ignoring it?
superjawes wrote:cphite wrote:+1To be honest, I've never gotten this notion that in order to enjoy one movie in the series it has to "bump off" some other movie in the series. Each of them has good points and bad points; and every fan will have their own list of where each stands in relation to the others.Bold statement to say ALL the DCEU movies. That franchise as a whole is a complete mess, but Patty Jenkins and crew freaking nailed it with Wonder Woman.It's still better than all of the DC movies ;Dtanker27 wrote:Ang Lee was pre-MCU. The Incredible Hulk (aka "The MCU Blind Spot") was written by Zak Penn, directed by Louis Leterrier, starring Ed Norton and Liv Tyler.All of them are equal, except for whatever Hulk one there was (I forget which one is a MCU one is was it Ang Lees?).kvndoom wrote:You and I might have very different definitions of "the neckbeards". Captain Marvel is doing well because Marvel have grown the fandom. Marvel movies are still for "the fans", but "the fans" include much of the general movie-going public. Getting a good Black Panther film last year and Captain Marvel this year is part of their bigger strategy to include their growing audience. Wonder Woman struggled because everything leading up to it was BAD. WB/DC never captured that general audience, so they couldn't (and still can't) compete with Marvel's numbers (the studio, not the character, but also technically the character).It's very strange why the neckbeards went all-in on this movie but stayed away from wonder Woman? Maybe it's because DCEU movies have tended to get bad professional reviews compared to Marvel flicks but WW was universally loved? Never know what's going through a fanboy's mind.
Although, Wonder Woman 1984 could be an interesting test. The first one did well, they managed to retool Aquaman into an okay-performing film, and Shazam looks very good. We still have to wait until 2020, but by then I would not be surprised if WB finally have something that compares to a successful MCU box office.
kvndoom wrote:lot of people tried their damnedest to sabotage Captain Marvel before it even opened.
Hollywood Reporter wrote:As of 8 a.m., the film had a 33 percent audience score from more than 58,000 reviews. That is more than the total of audience score reviews for Avengers: Infinity War for its entire theatrical run.
However, around 1 p.m., the number of reviews dropped to 7,000 with a score of 35 percent. Rotten Tomatoes explained in a statement to The Hollywood Reporter that a glitch was responsible for thousands of reviews showing up on the site when they shouldn't have. According to Rotten Tomatoes, it had included audience reviews given before the film was released, something which is no longer allowed.
kvndoom wrote:Yup. I had your position backwards. My bad.I think we were talking the same points but you misunderstood my tone. The "neckbeard campaign" I was joking about was the review trolling, tanking CM pre-release audience scores to the point that Rotten Tomatoes changed their policy. Such a massive campaign did not take place for WW, and its audience score still sits at 88% A lot of people tried their damnedest to sabotage Captain Marvel before it even opened.
kvndoom wrote:tanking CM pre-release audience scores to the point that Rotten Tomatoes changed their policy. Such a massive campaign did not take place for WW, and its audience score still sits at 88%
Rotten Tomatoes wrote:As of February 25, we will no longer show the ‘Want to See’ percentage score for a movie during its pre-release period. Why you might ask? We’ve found that the ‘Want to See’ percentage score is often times confused with the ‘Audience Score’ percentage number.
superjawes wrote:The score sabotage is something that has been going on for a while-
Glorious wrote:Statement: Captain Marvel is being targeted by bad faith actors to negatively affect review scores.Is it going on now?
The narrative as given is completely undermined by the factual reporting behind it.
That's... uh... kind of a problem... maybe?
RT Staff wrote:(Emphasis mine)What else are we doing? We are disabling the comment function prior to a movie’s release date. Unfortunately, we have seen an uptick in non-constructive input, sometimes bordering on trolling, which we believe is a disservice to our general readership. We have decided that turning off this feature for now is the best course of action.
@Matchity wrote:As of Sunday morning, the “audience” score is only at 55%, but #CaptainMarvel is on track to top $155M at the box office. There’s simply no way that number reflects reactions of people that ACTUALLY bought tickets.
Even Transformers movies had higher scores on opening weekends, with lower box office totals. Opening weekend audiences are a self-selecting pool, and almost always more satisfied. The later, casual watchers knock the scores down.
It’s easy to see the trolling still at work here, because no one is checking audience reviews against ticket purchases. Every major movie site with a user rating is guilty of this.
superjawes wrote:Statement: Captain Marvel is being targeted by bad faith actors to negatively affect review scores.
This is fact. Rotten Tomatoes acknowledged the trolling problem on February 25.
superjawes wrote:Like...anyone who follows this kind of news is acknowledging this.
Rotten Tomatoes wrote:we have seen an uptick in non-constructive input, sometimes bordering on trolling
superjawes wrote:Like...anyone who follows this kind of news is acknowledging this.