Personal computing discussed

Moderators: renee, Hoser

 
just brew it!
Gold subscriber
Administrator
Posts: 53333
Joined: Tue Aug 20, 2002 10:51 pm
Location: Somewhere, having a beer

Re: PlayStation 5

Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:24 am

Glorious wrote:
Yeah, that weird vented V-notch on the top is probably because Sony has tapped out: Yes, people are -STILL- going to shove these things in containments in which both sides are blocked. FINE, YOU WIN HUMANS, the darned thing will intake at the front, and you'll have to actually get inventive in order to block it. :P

People are going to treat the notch as storage space and pile stuff in it. At least with the V shape complete blockage is less likely.
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
 
Glorious
Gold subscriber
Gerbilus Supremus
Posts: 11893
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2002 6:35 pm

Re: PlayStation 5

Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:32 am

Yeah I should have said "completely block it". It's U-shaped (ish) and the vents are sloped. In order to really close it off you'd have to custom build something...

...whereas, with a ps4, there are plenty of compartments in home entertainment centers that are -JUST- big enough to snugly slide the thing in. Then, maybe even close the front door so you can't even fully hear the thing screaming itself to death. :wink:
 
Krogoth
Gerbil Elder
Posts: 5812
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2003 3:20 pm
Location: somewhere on Core Prime
Contact:

Re: PlayStation 5

Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:41 am

just brew it! wrote:
Krogoth wrote:
I don't understand the resistance in using SSD for gaming consoles. It is more like "about gouda-dang time". The units are cheap enough and are leagues ahead of spinners. I'm more surprised that HDDs still persist in budget-minded laptops of all things.

The budget segment is (and always has been) a race to the bottom. Consumers tend to look at capacity before speed, so using HDDs is a good marketing strategy if your #1 goal is to move a lot of cheap systems to people who don't know any better.

TBH we're already at the point where 2.5" HDDs only make sense for portable external storage, and 3.5" HDDs only make sense if you have multiple TBs of data where keeping cost of storage down is the primary concern. </slight-overgeneralization>


Margins aren't there anymore. Actually, SSDs are cheaper per unit and would incentivize people in the budget market to get external HDDs (higher margins) if they need more capacity.
Gigabyte Z390 AORUS-PRO Coffee Lake R 9700K, 2x8GiB of G.Skill DDR4-3600, Sapphire RX Vega 64, Corsair CX-750M V2 and Fractal Define R4 (W)
Ivy Bridge 3570K, 2x4GiB of G.Skill RIPSAW DDR3-1600, Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H, Corsair CX-750M V2, and PC-7B
 
just brew it!
Gold subscriber
Administrator
Posts: 53333
Joined: Tue Aug 20, 2002 10:51 pm
Location: Somewhere, having a beer

Re: PlayStation 5

Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:47 am

Like I said, most people look only at capacity. They see "500GB" and immediately think it is better than the "250GB" one, even though one is HDD and the other is SSD.
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
 
Krogoth
Gerbil Elder
Posts: 5812
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2003 3:20 pm
Location: somewhere on Core Prime
Contact:

Re: PlayStation 5

Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:51 am

just brew it! wrote:
Like I said, most people look only at capacity. They see "500GB" and immediately think it is better than the "250GB" one, even though one is HDD and the other is SSD.


I was thinking more along the lines of marketing types using the removal of HDDs as an upsell tactic and to make laptops cheaper/simpler to make. Similar to how the removal of 3.5mm jack on some smartphones was done entirely to upsell smartphone peripherals.
Gigabyte Z390 AORUS-PRO Coffee Lake R 9700K, 2x8GiB of G.Skill DDR4-3600, Sapphire RX Vega 64, Corsair CX-750M V2 and Fractal Define R4 (W)
Ivy Bridge 3570K, 2x4GiB of G.Skill RIPSAW DDR3-1600, Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H, Corsair CX-750M V2, and PC-7B
 
Igor_Kavinski
Gerbil Elite
Posts: 658
Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:34 am

Re: PlayStation 5

Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:46 am

Glorious wrote:
Yeah I should have said "completely block it". It's U-shaped (ish) and the vents are sloped. In order to really close it off you'd have to custom build something...

...whereas, with a ps4, there are plenty of compartments in home entertainment centers that are -JUST- big enough to snugly slide the thing in. Then, maybe even close the front door so you can't even fully hear the thing screaming itself to death. :wink:


Oh mannnnnnnnnnn!!!!!! Glorious is on a roll. Can't stop chuckling to myself! You deserve your own podcast, dude!
 
just brew it!
Gold subscriber
Administrator
Posts: 53333
Joined: Tue Aug 20, 2002 10:51 pm
Location: Somewhere, having a beer

Re: PlayStation 5

Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:58 am

Glorious wrote:
Yeah I should have said "completely block it". It's U-shaped (ish) and the vents are sloped. In order to really close it off you'd have to custom build something...

Toddler: Oooh, nice little bed for my beanie baby!
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
 
dragontamer5788
Gerbil Elite
Posts: 507
Joined: Mon May 06, 2013 8:39 am

Re: PlayStation 5

Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:01 am

just brew it! wrote:
Like I said, most people look only at capacity. They see "500GB" and immediately think it is better than the "250GB" one, even though one is HDD and the other is SSD.


Yeah, I have to keep reminding my friends / family that SSDs are on the order of 100x to 1000x faster in IOPS. So you're paying for speed, not for capacity.
 
Glorious
Gold subscriber
Gerbilus Supremus
Posts: 11893
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2002 6:35 pm

Re: PlayStation 5

Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:03 am

JBI wrote:
Toddler: Oooh, nice little bed for my beanie baby!


That there's the thing about humans of all stripes and sizes: don't under or OVER estimate their powers of ingenuity. :lol:
 
Topinio
Gerbil Jedi
Posts: 1756
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:28 am
Location: London

Re: PlayStation 5

Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:27 pm

just brew it! wrote:
Toddler: Oooh, nice little bed for my beanie baby!

Teen / SO: "I'll just put my full coffee here."

Kitty: "Oooh, nice little bed for me." (nestles in to the nice warm V, feeling the air intakes on both sides gently sucking at its fur as it dozes off for the afternoon...) :evil:
Desktop: E3-1270 v5, X11SAT-F, 32GB, RX 580, 500GB Crucial P1, 250GB Crucial MX500, 4TB 7E8, Xonar DGX, XL2730Z + L22e-20
HTPC: i5-2500K, DH67GD, 6GB, GT 1030, 250GB MX500, 1.5TB Barracuda, Xonar DX, G2420HDB
Laptop: MacBook6,1
 
Captain Ned
Gold subscriber
Global Moderator
Posts: 27932
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2002 7:00 pm
Location: Vermont, USA

Re: PlayStation 5

Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:51 pm

Image
What we have today is way too much pluribus and not enough unum.
 
just brew it!
Gold subscriber
Administrator
Posts: 53333
Joined: Tue Aug 20, 2002 10:51 pm
Location: Somewhere, having a beer

Re: PlayStation 5

Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:20 am

Topinio wrote:
just brew it! wrote:
Toddler: Oooh, nice little bed for my beanie baby!

Teen / SO: "I'll just put my full coffee here."

Kitty: "Oooh, nice little bed for me." (nestles in to the nice warm V, feeling the air intakes on both sides gently sucking at its fur as it dozes off for the afternoon...) :evil:

Bonus: Internal air pathways clogged with cat fur, ensuring ongoing thermal issues even after kitty removal!
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
 
Krogoth
Gerbil Elder
Posts: 5812
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2003 3:20 pm
Location: somewhere on Core Prime
Contact:

Re: PlayStation 5

Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:03 am

just brew it! wrote:
Topinio wrote:
just brew it! wrote:
Toddler: Oooh, nice little bed for my beanie baby!

Teen / SO: "I'll just put my full coffee here."

Kitty: "Oooh, nice little bed for me." (nestles in to the nice warm V, feeling the air intakes on both sides gently sucking at its fur as it dozes off for the afternoon...) :evil:

Bonus: Internal air pathways clogged with cat fur, ensuring ongoing thermal issues even after kitty removal!


Purfect......
Gigabyte Z390 AORUS-PRO Coffee Lake R 9700K, 2x8GiB of G.Skill DDR4-3600, Sapphire RX Vega 64, Corsair CX-750M V2 and Fractal Define R4 (W)
Ivy Bridge 3570K, 2x4GiB of G.Skill RIPSAW DDR3-1600, Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H, Corsair CX-750M V2, and PC-7B
 
Topinio
Gerbil Jedi
Posts: 1756
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:28 am
Location: London

Re: PlayStation 5

Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:44 am

Krogoth wrote:
just brew it! wrote:
Bonus: Internal air pathways clogged with cat fur, ensuring ongoing thermal issues even after kitty removal!


Purfect......

Purrrrrrrrrrrrfect for the retailers and Sony if it normally takes more than the warranty period for the fur to kill the machine.
Desktop: E3-1270 v5, X11SAT-F, 32GB, RX 580, 500GB Crucial P1, 250GB Crucial MX500, 4TB 7E8, Xonar DGX, XL2730Z + L22e-20
HTPC: i5-2500K, DH67GD, 6GB, GT 1030, 250GB MX500, 1.5TB Barracuda, Xonar DX, G2420HDB
Laptop: MacBook6,1
 
Igor_Kavinski
Gerbil Elite
Posts: 658
Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:34 am

Re: PlayStation 5

Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:21 am

First real photo of PS5 Devkit: https://nl.letsgodigital.org/uploads/20 ... 5-foto.jpg

So yeah, let the jokes begin in earnest! :P

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests
GZIP: On