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What kind of CPU do you have paired with it?

I figured out on accident that you can use the Arrow keys to enter a conversation response (WTH is the manual for this game?! It needs one!)

Also, I've discovered that butchering the .ini files allows FO4 to run at roughly 25 FPS on a Intel HD5500 graphics, although it crashes randomly.

The weirdest thing I've found so far is that the in-game settings menu doesn't let you turn off features completely, only set them to "low".

As for scrapping your starting village.. fun fact, "E" counts as hitting "enter". So you can scrap items by typing "re".

It's not so much that the interface is a mess (it is), but more that nothing is documented anywhere.

Savyg wrote:

There isn't a shred of info on the net suggesting this isn't still a dx9 game.

There's plenty of evidence proving that it's based on an engine that was entirely DX9 until recently.

Bethesda aren't hiding that - it's using the DX9 Creation/Gamebryo engine that was developed for Fallout3 and then modified for Skyrim. Fallout 4 makes some limited use of DX10 features apparently but I can't find anything concrete on that, it's possibly just someone inferring from the DX10-compliant minimum spec.

How good a game looks is more often than not down to the art teams involved, but you shouldn't be worrying about graphics. Fallout was never about the graphics (which were poor even at the time of Fallout 3's launch).

Glorious wrote:

What kind of CPU do you have paired with it?

Specs are in signature below.

I meant for arvald.

Chrispy_ wrote:

Bethesda aren't hiding that - it's using the DX9 Creation/Gamebryo engine that was developed for Fallout3 and then modified for Skyrim. Fallout 4 makes some limited use of DX10 features apparently but I can't find anything concrete on that, it's possibly just someone inferring from the DX10-compliant minimum spec.

The min spec cards are DX11, though (GTX 550 Ti and HD 7870) and a quick google doesn't find me any reports of anyone having tested it on a DX10 or earlier card.

Seems to be running on HD2000 and HD3000 with an ini tweak of "Feature level limit" to "9_1".

Game runs fine (albeit slowly) like that but I'm guessing higher detail settings would crash without the feature support for them.

Running great for me using a Radeon 280 with a mild voltage bump with the GPU overclocked to 1100 MHz, and VRAM at 1667 MHz. The game launcher set the Ultra Settings on detecting the 280 which I thought was odd considering Bethesda Softworks recommends a Radeon 290X.

Chrispy_ : Interesting, those are feature level 10_1 IGPs (aren't they??) so why down to 9_1 ?

biffzinker : what res, and how well does it perform at the launcher-set Ultra ?

Screen resolution is 1080P at 60 Hz with vsync. Frame rate is smooth without stuttering expected the worse but nothing to complain about.
I'm guessing the 7950/GHz edition shouldn't run into slow frame rate being re-branded to 280.

Chrispy_ wrote:

Bethesda aren't hiding that - it's using the DX9 Creation/Gamebryo engine that was developed for Fallout3 and then modified for Skyrim. Fallout 4 makes some limited use of DX10 features apparently but I can't find anything concrete on that, it's possibly just someone inferring from the DX10-compliant minimum spec.

Engines can be upgraded, so what engine it uses doesn't really concern me.

Topinio wrote:

The min spec cards are DX11, though (GTX 550 Ti and HD 7870) and a quick google doesn't find me any reports of anyone having tested it on a DX10 or earlier card.

Yeah, which is why it's surprising the game still appears to be dx9 from what I can tell.

I'll still buy the game eventually, but the only thing I can get before Christmastime is Just Cause 3.

@Arvald
just my two cents about that 290 card, even though it appears you're not going to need it. those reference blowers leave A LOT to be desired. that card is priced that way for a reason. headphones should be bundled with cards that have blowers like these. and if you purchased fallout thru steam, they have built in frame counter that you could use. no need for fraps, if you just wanna get a rough idea of what your gpu is pushing.

I don't have Fallout 4 (busy playing through Legacy of the Void first) but HD3000's DX10 support was dubious at best, better described as dire.

The fact people have it running in DX9 mode just backs up the claims that it's largely a DX9 game. DX11 isn't used for anything fundamental - I suspect it uses DX11 for HBAO and not much else.

Glorious wrote:

What kind of CPU do you have paired with it?

Core i7 2600K

makinbaconpancakes wrote:

@Arvald
just my two cents about that 290 card, even though it appears you're not going to need it. those reference blowers leave A LOT to be desired. that card is priced that way for a reason. headphones should be bundled with cards that have blowers like these. and if you purchased fallout thru steam, they have built in frame counter that you could use. no need for fraps, if you just wanna get a rough idea of what your gpu is pushing.

Ya, I'm looking at an Asus Strix R9 380 or Asus Strix 960.
I'll Google and check out noise levels before I buy since I am a stickler for noise.
I have an XFX 6950 right now and it rarely spins up the blowers to high and they are not noisy.

I have a buddy who has an Asus 6950 and the thing sounds like an airplane taking off.

Arvald wrote:

Core i7 2600K

Thanks.

My Core i7 4790K @ 4.5GHz is hardly being used by Fallout 4.
Seeing 4 cores/8 threads in use but with 10-20% usage per thread according to task manager.
Wonder what the cpu usage would look like with Core i3 6100, and why reccomend a Core i7 4790 Bethesda?

biffzinker wrote:

Wonder what the cpu usage would look like with Core i3 6100, and why reccomend a Core i7 4790 Bethesda?

Heh, I haven't had issues with my Core i3 530 either.

So, head's up, looks like FO4 has a memory leak; Don't leave it sitting at the ESC menu for 6+ hours or it will take down Windows 10.

I can give everyone the (weird) details if needed, but essentially that seems to be the cause.

Game doesn't run well at all, so expect choppy gameplay no matter what your hardware is. 290, 16GB of 2133, and 4790k and @1080p and it often chugs to damn near single digits.

sweatshopking wrote:

Game doesn't run well at all, so expect choppy gameplay no matter what your hardware is. 290, 16GB of 2133, and 4790k and @1080p and it often chugs to damn near single digits.

Running baby-butt smooth here. Might want to get with AMD about those drivers.

Chrispy_ wrote:

Seems to be running on HD2000 and HD3000 with an ini tweak of "Feature level limit" to "9_1".

Game runs fine (albeit slowly) like that but I'm guessing higher detail settings would crash without the feature support for them.

Where did you find this line ("Feature Level Limit")?? And in what file?? Or is it something that needs to be added?

I've been running the game on a mid 2014 rMBP with GT 750M at 1280x800. The game runs quite well tbh. The OP shouldn't have too much trouble running the game with his current setup.

Bethesda's games trace their core engine technology back to 2006, so with some config tweaks it should be possible to get them running on just about anything.

sweatshopking wrote:

Game doesn't run well at all, so expect choppy gameplay no matter what your hardware is. 290, 16GB of 2133, and 4790k and @1080p and it often chugs to damn near single digits.

Running with out any issues for me. My PC build is Asus Z97-E/USB3.1, 4790K @ 4.5, 16GB of 1866 MHz @ 2133 MHz 9-10-10-29 v1.505, SAPPHIRE DUAL-X Radeon R9 280 at 1055 MHz, and GDDR5 at 1700 MHz, 2 -250GB SSDs in RAID 0, and Windows 10 x64 build 10.0.10586 with AMD Cat 15.11 beta.

PC setup is the same as yours ssk except you having a 290, shouldn't be getting choppy gameplay. Something wrong with your system?

Airmantharp wrote:

sweatshopking wrote:

Game doesn't run well at all, so expect choppy gameplay no matter what your hardware is. 290, 16GB of 2133, and 4790k and @1080p and it often chugs to damn near single digits.

Running baby-butt smooth here. Might want to get with AMD about those drivers.

He's probably really busy.

sweatshopking wrote:

Airmantharp wrote:

sweatshopking wrote:

Game doesn't run well at all, so expect choppy gameplay no matter what your hardware is. 290, 16GB of 2133, and 4790k and @1080p and it often chugs to damn near single digits.

Running baby-butt smooth here. Might want to get with AMD about those drivers.

He's probably really busy.

No doubt

Had the weird 20FPS cap initially, unlocked the framerate and now getting 50-70FPS maxed out at 1440p on Catalyst 15.7.1.

295X2 1100/1300 and 3930K at 4.3.

Vhalidictes wrote:

So, head's up, looks like FO4 has a memory leak; Don't leave it sitting at the ESC menu for 6+ hours or it will take down Windows 10.

I can give everyone the (weird) details if needed, but essentially that seems to be the cause.

I've had that happen 3 times now.
Crashes the video driver. Win 10 has recovered 2 out of 3 times.

So I grabbed the Asus Strix R9 380.
Game is much smooth and bottoms out at 59FPS.

Though it also looks that by default the game caps at 60 FPS.
I'll need to dig through the settings.