Personal computing discussed
LostCat wrote:I love my Xbox One for games that DON'T need the power (and for videos.) It's very quiet, has great audio, and does what it needs to do without messing with anything.
I much prefer my PC for everything else.
I will love my Switch for not being tethered to the monitor but also having that capability, when I get it.
Honestly, anyone who spends their time looking to insult people based on their gaming platforms needs a better hobby.
(Some people even game on phones! Terrifying, I know. Some people even do it on TABLES! Ahhh!)
(Also, I think those claims have been gone for a good decade now, though they might've been more relevant then.)
NTMBK wrote:Some of my best gaming memories are on console. :\ A game is a game. If people have fun playing a game, then that's all that matters.
You know what? Yeah, sometimes PC gaming is a hassle. Oh look I need to update my graphics driver again, oh look this game has DirectInput support but not XInput support, oh look this game has XInput support but not DirectInput support, oh look this game runs like ass if you have less than 4GB VRAM (and runs smoothly on console), oh look this game hasn't implemented controller support despite it being available on console (looking at you Mass Effect).
I love PC gaming, but a console has plenty of value too. I just wish that they were less PC-like these days; too many updates to install, too many games that ship broken and need patching, too many games with mandatory installs. Not like the old days when you would just slap in a cartridge and play.
whm1974 wrote:OK I can see getting the Switch and other mobile gaming platforms or playing causal games on your phone, even tabletop gaming. But why limit yourself to a crippled console with overpriced games?
LostCat wrote:whm1974 wrote:OK I can see getting the Switch and other mobile gaming platforms or playing causal games on your phone, even tabletop gaming. But why limit yourself to a crippled console with overpriced games?
Once I find a crippled console with overpriced games I'll let you know. Sales on consoles are frequent as well, they're just from one vendor so you don't hear about them unless you're already inclined to.
Hell, some of my favorite games from the last year (D4, Hand of Fate at least) I only played in the first place because of them coming with my Xbox Live sub. And some (Destiny) I can't even play on PC.
whm1974 wrote:Beg your pardon, but since most console games are limited to 720p@30fps, that is being [i]crippled[./i] And there is no good reason why Destiny(and other console exclusives) is not on the PC.
nico1982 wrote:whm1974 wrote:Beg your pardon, but since most console games are limited to 720p@30fps, that is being [i]crippled[./i] And there is no good reason why Destiny(and other console exclusives) is not on the PC.
Such comments make me miss the the PSX 240p era - and earlier - when games were either fun or not fun.
whm1974 wrote:Beg your pardon, but since most console games are limited to 720p@30fps, that is being crippled
whm1974 wrote:Beg your pardon, but since most console games are limited to 720p@30fps, that is being crippled.
Captain Ned wrote:whm1974 wrote:Beg your pardon, but since most console games are limited to 720p@30fps, that is being crippled.
Crippled, eh? You must be old enough to remember when Doom v1 fanatics ran at 512x384 just to get to 30FPS for that edge in deathmatches.
whm1974 wrote:Beg your pardon, but since most console games are limited to 720p@30fps, that is being crippled.
NTMBK wrote:nico1982 wrote:whm1974 wrote:Beg your pardon, but since most console games are limited to 720p@30fps, that is being [i]crippled[./i] And there is no good reason why Destiny(and other console exclusives) is not on the PC.
Such comments make me miss the the PSX 240p era - and earlier - when games were either fun or not fun.
This, so much. This week my PC game of choice has been Grim Fandango, a game from 1998. Is it state of the art 1080p60fps? No. Is it damn fun? Yeah!
cynan wrote:A couple have mentioned enthusiasm for the Nintendo Switch. I guess you're right. It's the game experience that matters.
However, there's just something that bothers the hardware enthusiast in me about buying a "state-of-the-art" console in 2017 powered by a 2-year old mobile chip.
superjawes wrote:Having been a "console peasant", I have some observations...
1. For the most part, talk of the "PC Master Race" and "console peasants" seems to be tongue-in-cheek >90% of the time. Anyone who seriously treats their status as a PC Gamer as some sort of superiority is just an A-hole, and we can all call them an A-hole.
2. PC gamers do have legitimate (albeit indirect) complaints about console gaming. Some games are designed for the limitations of consoles, and we (PC gamers) can end up with the same arbitrary restrictions on things like frame rate (I think The Evil Within did this), resulting in a poorer experience for no real reason. One of the biggest benefits of PC gaming is the ability to upgrade hardware to improve the experience, and it's not fun when that benefit is hobbled by the console version of the game.
superjawes wrote:Having been a "console peasant", I have some observations...
1. For the most part, talk of the "PC Master Race" and "console peasants" seems to be tongue-in-cheek >90% of the time. Anyone who seriously treats their status as a PC Gamer as some sort of superiority is just an A-hole, and we can all call them an A-hole.
2. PC gamers do have legitimate (albeit indirect) complaints about console gaming. Some games are designed for the limitations of consoles, and we (PC gamers) can end up with the same arbitrary restrictions on things like frame rate (I think The Evil Within did this), resulting in a poorer experience for no real reason. One of the biggest benefits of PC gaming is the ability to upgrade hardware to improve the experience, and it's not fun when that benefit is hobbled by the console version of the game.
whm1974 wrote:Console Peasants.......
derFunkenstein wrote:On point #2, that's not the console's fault and it shouldn't be a complaint about console gaming; it's a lazy port. It's easier to blame Microsoft and Sony for making their machines they way they did. The responsibility is on the developer, though, to deliver a top-notch experience regardless of the platform.
Kretschmer wrote:This is another thing that can happen. The distinction I would look for is what the recommended control scheme is. If a game tries to let me use a mouse + keyboard, but I won't let me click through menus, that is a bad design. If the game says "using a controller is recommended", then I should suck it up and use my controller, and I can forgive some limited mouse controls.On #2, a big pet peeve for me is when a game's complexity and/or UI are dumbed down to work with a controller. But a lot of those games wouldn't be published at all if all of those console-wielding purchasers weren't available to defray development costs.
superjawes wrote:True, the frustration should go back to the developers. I only meant to point out that the cross-platform development CAN negatively affect PC gamers when silly things like that happen.
whm1974 wrote:4. Exclusives, I can see when the console vendors owns the game, but barring platform limitations, shouldn't the vast majority of games be on every platform?
Voldenuit wrote:But I bet console gamers complain about shoddy PC ports onto console, too (XCOM, 3DO Wing Commander and Star Control 2, etc).