Personal computing discussed
Usacomp2k3 wrote:I was very tempted to get the X last week when we bought the S. I've been rocking the 360 Elite since launch day (it was the first version that had HDMI back in April 2007). Paid $480 for it at the time. It has lasted me over 10 years, which is a great ROI. I couldn't quite justify the price difference between the S & the X this time around, as I don't have an UltraHD display (and probably won't for awhile as projector prices have not come down nearly as much as flat panel displays have for UltraHD). From my limited research, it appears that the extra horsepower isn't used for anything else really, so I wouldn't see the difference.
Chrispy_ wrote:I'm curious how many "4K" games will run at native 4K.
Vhalidictes wrote:Chrispy_ wrote:I'm curious how many "4K" games will run at native 4K.
Most likely? None, at least none the way a PC graphics card would display them.
The current crop of consoles don't have the grunt for 4K@60-FPS. All games so far are either upscaled or missing various graphical features.
techguy wrote:Vhalidictes wrote:Chrispy_ wrote:I'm curious how many "4K" games will run at native 4K.
Most likely? None, at least none the way a PC graphics card would display them.
The current crop of consoles don't have the grunt for 4K@60-FPS. All games so far are either upscaled or missing various graphical features.
Forza 7 is native 4k - 60 FPS too.
Vhalidictes wrote:I'd probably be more excited about Destiny 2 if I could have played Destiny 1. Then again from what I hear it had major issues.
But the Xbox One S and the One X handle content differently on each. When the One S launched, its major new feature was the ability to stream video content at 4K UHD, while the Xbox One X was able to actually play games at native 4K. The One S was still capped at rendering games at 1080p, and that is not changing. Games rendered at 1080p will be upscaled to 1440p, in the same way that they're upscaled to 4K if you have a display to support it.
The Xbox One X will have select games that render at native 1440p. It's not clear how popular support for this will be. Otherwise, if the game has been enhanced with 4K UHD support, then that will be supersampled down to 1440p. And of course, games that still render at 1080p will be upscaled on the Xbox One X as well.
derFunkenstein wrote:Some PS4 Pro games have a 1440p mode that runs at a higher frame rate. MLB the Show did last year for example. If there are games on the X1X that could run faster at lower res (say 4K 30 or 1440p 60) I'd go lower resolution every time, even with a 4K TV.
EzioAs wrote:Xbox One family (original, S & X) now officially supports FreeSync.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevang ... a5b60948f8
LostCat wrote:I think that's with the update this month though, not immediately? But yeah.
Sucks that I don't think Freesync would work through my Dolby Atmos receiver tho...so I'd have to pick one feature or the other anyway
Fortunately, it's usually pretty steady framerate anyway so I'm not that concerned.
derFunkenstein wrote:Does the XboneX have optical output? And I guess more importantly, does your receiver have optical input? That might be a way to weasel around those problems.
Or if your TV/monitor and receiver support ARC you can go direct into the TV and output through the receiver. I do that with the PS4 Pro and my TCL 55p605 since my receiver only supports 4K at 30Hz.
Moving onto the enhanced consoles, a good presentation for 4K displays is the target, and it's Xbox One X that is the star of the show here. The Scorpio Engine delivers a full, native 4K presentation - 3840x2160 - while retaining the TAA for an almost flawless, virtually jaggy-free experience. It's an impressive achievement, with a 5.3x boost to resolution over the standard Xbox One. By comparison, PlayStation 4 Pro delivers 2880x1620, a 2.25x improvement over the base model and almost entirely in line with the GPU compute power increase available to developers. This is pretty impressive bearing in mind that there's only a small memory bandwidth boost over the older PS4, and just a small amount of additional memory.
DancinJack wrote:I don't even understand why there is an argument. It's the same situation as original PS4 vs Xbone. The PS4 OG had a slightly better GPU, end of story. Now, the XboneX has the better GPU and gives better visuals. End of story. Haters always gonna hate, I guess.
derFunkenstein wrote:This. The argument gets old because, as always, people with unlimited funds can build a PC that puts both consoles to shame. It's always been and will always be about the games you want to play. If they're on a given platform, then that's the platform upon which you will play them. Or not play them.
LostCat wrote:Only thing I don't like is if you play shooters on it the controllers tend to wear out much quicker than a good mouse does :/
LostCat wrote:This is the first time I remember a console puts many gaming PCs to shame though. It's a really odd time to be a PC gamer (with all this GPU nonsense especially, but still.)
Even with my Ryzen coming back I still plan to do most of my gaming on the X1X.
(RAM still seems kind of pricy too, though I don't buy it often enough to notice much.)
LostCat wrote:This is the first time I remember a console puts many gaming PCs to shame though. It's a really odd time to be a PC gamer (with all this GPU nonsense especially, but still.)
LostCat wrote:This is the first time I remember a console puts many gaming PCs to shame though. It's a really odd time to be a PC gamer (with all this GPU nonsense especially, but still.)